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Fighting Games Weekly | July 1-7 | Heel turns, shattered dreams, broken cages

kirblar

Member
I'm not going to donate money because:

1) He's prolly contractually obligated still to have EMP VxG in his name on stream. He is also likely to stick with EMP so he can get a trip to the beach (I doubt Triforce blew that money too)

2) It's his mistake to join with EMP again.
If Rolando doesn't ditch Triforce/EMP next year/season, expect a mass exodus from that sponsor/tag.
 

Grecco

Member
on one hand id love to see dieminion in evo hes easily one of usas best chances at winning


on the other hand the whole leaving Broken Tier thing was kinda awful
 

MrDaravon

Member
I'm not going to donate money because:

1) He's prolly contractually obligated still to have EMP VxG in his name on stream. He is also likely to stick with EMP so he can get a trip to the beach (I doubt Triforce blew that money too)

2) It's his mistake to join with EMP again.


He should tell it right now. How does he expect people to give him money without first giving an explanation? That seems very unfair.

Yup; I feel sorry for the guy, but everyone had to know what they were getting into with signing up with Triforce. It's ultimately your responsibility to take care of your shit, and even if things went bad he either should have kept some of that signing bonus and/or started doing this more than 5 days before Evo. He's going to need to provide damn good justification for this, and he should have done this before he started asking for money. Also feel zero sympathy for the guy with the shitty way he left BT.
 

kirblar

Member
on one hand id love to see dieminion in evo hes easily one of usas best chances at winning


on the other hand the whole leaving Broken Tier thing was kinda awful
The BT thing was going to happen one way or another. To make that setup work you need to move merchandise, and Die' just not that kinda guy. (Yipes, however, is.)
 
It will be told soon? As in after I get the money? Nobody should donate until the explanation is out. Naw scratch that. Nobody should donate period.
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
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Grecco

Member
The BT thing was going to happen one way or another. To make that setup work you need to move merchandise, and Die' just not that kinda guy. (Yipes, however, is.)

Im pretty sure i remember koogys post that still doesnt mean how dieminion handled it was ok
 

Malice215

Member
I wish Dieminion wasn't in this situation to begin with, but him not being at EVO would have been a huge disappointment for alot of people, especially after how well he did last year.

Plus he's one of the classiest people I've had the pleasure of meeting in this community, so hopefully he's able to make it to EVO and provides an explanation to people on his situation.
 

Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
Yeah I'm gonna give Dieminion the benefit of the doubt and trust he just got handed a shitty situation and didn't do something grossly idiotic. If he had a track record with this kind of thing then it'd be different.
 

kick51

Banned
Yeah I'm gonna give Dieminion the benefit of the doubt and trust he just got handed a shitty situation and didn't do something grossly idiotic. If he had a track record with this kind of thing then it'd be different.



Same here. I always hate gaf/the internet's "zero tolerance" policy on stuff if someone has some negative thing in their past...very immature.
 

Duxxy3

Member
Well could have not went back to shady EMP. So no.

He went back to his friends.

If your friends, that you have worked with before, asked you to get the old band back together with all new backers and a lot of money... what would you say?
 

Grecco

Member
He went back to his friends.

If your friends, that you have worked with before, asked you to get the old band back together with all new backers and a lot of money... what would you say?


if i knew an idiot was in charge id say no thanks

but it wasnt about friends its about greenbacks, dinero.
 

MrDaravon

Member
Same here. I always hate gaf/the internet's "zero tolerance" policy on stuff if someone has some negative thing in their past...very immature.

-He left his previous sponsor (who is highly regarded and a nice guy) in a shit way
-Went back to Triforce, who has an extensive history of shady shit and generally being an idiot
-He's asking for donations 5 days before Evo when he knew at least a week (?) ago that he wasn't going (due to "circumstances")
-Says that clarification is coming, but doesn't provide that before asking for money

Yes, we're the immature ones here. Even assuming he did just get fucked in general by Triforce, I don't know why he would want to stay part of EMP so why keep quiet about it? Also ultimately it's on him to get his shit taken care of, what happened to his supposedly big signing bonus (unless he didn't actually get one, but that would be even more absurd)? Take care of your shit, and if he did genuinely get fucked, there's no reason to keep quiet about it, and he shouldn't have waited until the last moment to ask for money and then still not be transparent about it. It's a bad look.
 

Grecco

Member
-He left his previous sponsor (who is highly regarded and a nice guy) in a shit way
-Went back to Triforce, who has an extensive history of shady shit and generally being an idiot
-He's asking for donations 5 days before Evo when he knew at least a week (?) ago that he wasn't going (due to "circumstances")
-Says that clarification is coming, but doesn't provide that before asking for money

Yes, we're the immature ones here.



Who refused to pay for Dieminions ticket to SBO iirc which led to Henry Cen going to SBO iirc
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Not using VXG | EMP tag is a given if he is going with the donation money.
Diemi pls
 

MrDaravon

Member
IPLAYWINNER ‏@iplaywinner 47m
Curleh West is TODAY! Check out all the UMvC3 you can handle hosted by @IFCYipeS. Starts at 3 Pacific ONLY on http://twitch.tv/teamsp00ky

Wait, I thought this was supposed to start at 5pm PST? If it actually is starting (or supposed to start, TST and all that) at 3pm PST I might be able to actually watch most of it.

Living on the east coast sucks ass for streams, I should move back to Cali just to facilitate a better streaming schedule.

Edit: Yipes is saying 2pm on Twitter now, I dunno what the fuck.
 

alstein

Member
I'm just not going to donate for another person to go to an event, when I'd rather donate to going to the events myself.
 
-He left his previous sponsor (who is highly regarded and a nice guy) in a shit way
-Went back to Triforce, who has an extensive history of shady shit and generally being an idiot
-He's asking for donations 5 days before Evo when he knew at least a week (?) ago that he wasn't going (due to "circumstances")
-Says that clarification is coming, but doesn't provide that before asking for money

Yes, we're the immature ones here. Even assuming he did just get fucked in general by Triforce, I don't know why he would want to stay part of EMP so why keep quiet about it? Also ultimately it's on him to get his shit taken care of, what happened to his supposedly big signing bonus (unless he didn't actually get one, but that would be even more absurd)? Take care of your shit, and if he did genuinely get fucked, there's no reason to keep quiet about it, and he shouldn't have waited until the last moment to ask for money and then still not be transparent about it. It's a bad look.

if we sponsor him, it should be Neogaf tmz dieminion.
 

notworksafe

Member
Hahaha no. I funded my own EVO trip, no reason he shouldn't do the same. EVO details were announced almost a year ago and this dude begs for money the weekend before? Get outta here with that crap.
 

Infinite

Member
Wait, so do any of you actually know what happened or are you guys making shit up again? What's the deal with Dieminion, Triforce, and VxG EMP?
 

jbug617

Banned
Wait, so do any of you actually know what happened or are you guys making shit up again? What's the deal with Dieminion, Triforce, and VxG EMP?

Nobody knows as of now. We can safely assume that his sponsors (Triforce and VxG) has failed him.

Event Hubs blew up the Dieminion link.
 

MrDaravon

Member
Wait, so do any of you actually know what happened or are you guys making shit up again? What's the deal with Dieminion, Triforce, and VxG EMP?

I think all that we know for sure is that Die is asking for donations to get to Evo, and apparently (based on posts here, I don't follow any of these folks elsewhere) Triforce has been asking for donations as well to get Sanford to Evo as well?

So most people are wondering why on earth their sponsor is asking for donations to get it's own players to the biggest tournament of the year less then a week beforehand. Apparently all of the other VxG sponsored players are good to go, so it's unclear if Triforce fucked up, VxG fucked up or some combination of the two.

Unrelated, but wasn't someone supposed to be doing a Curleh thread? I'm curious if we have a confirmed list of who is going or not.
 

~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Even if EMP is not a "sponsor", that organization should ensure that their most successful Fighting Game player in recent history in terms of tourney results, and the best Guile user in the world by consensus, get to the biggest, most mainstream/commercially known fighting game Tournament of the calendar...
 

kick51

Banned
-He left his previous sponsor (who is highly regarded and a nice guy) in a shit way
-Went back to Triforce, who has an extensive history of shady shit and generally being an idiot
-He's asking for donations 5 days before Evo when he knew at least a week (?) ago that he wasn't going (due to "circumstances")
-Says that clarification is coming, but doesn't provide that before asking for money

Yes, we're the immature ones here. Even assuming he did just get fucked in general by Triforce, I don't know why he would want to stay part of EMP so why keep quiet about it? Also ultimately it's on him to get his shit taken care of, what happened to his supposedly big signing bonus (unless he didn't actually get one, but that would be even more absurd)? Take care of your shit, and if he did genuinely get fucked, there's no reason to keep quiet about it, and he shouldn't have waited until the last moment to ask for money and then still not be transparent about it. It's a bad look.



That's your second-hand (or third or 4th) internet perspective of it, taking the most negative view possible, judging some things before they've even happened, assuming that everything is 100% correct. As usual.
 

MrDaravon

Member
That's your second-hand (or third or 4th) internet perspective of it, taking the most negative view possible, judging some things before they've even happened, assuming that everything is 100% correct. As usual.

Name one of these things:

-He left his previous sponsor (who is highly regarded and a nice guy) in a shit way
-Went back to Triforce, who has an extensive history of shady shit and generally being an idiot
-He's asking for donations 5 days before Evo when he knew at least a week (?) ago that he wasn't going (due to "circumstances")
-Says that clarification is coming, but doesn't provide that before asking for money

That is factually incorrect. You can't, except for maybe the first point depending on your definition of "shit".

I'm not willing to take someone at face value and not assume the worst when they themselves are not forthcoming with any information, and prior, factual history indicates otherwise. People have every right to question why a sponsored player, who said a week ago that he couldn't go to Evo because of "certain circumstances" is now asking for donations to get there less than a week beforehand with zero explanation from him, his team, or his sponsor.


Rad, didn't see it in the first few pages so I figured it hadn't gone up yet, my fault. Thanks!
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
A lot of people like jumping to conclusions on GAF based on zero evidence. It's just a fact of life. Innocence or guilt is based on how you feel about the person or organization rather than anything tangible.
 
That's your second-hand (or third or 4th) internet perspective of it, taking the most negative view possible, judging some things before they've even happened, assuming that everything is 100% correct. As usual.

These facts are 100% obvious and undeniable:

- Dieminion left EMP years ago because Triforce is a clown who doesn't know how to run a team
- Triforce is still as big a clown now as he was when Dieminion left

So Dieminion pretty much reap what he sowed. I still respect him and I'll still want to see him in EVO. But not as long as he has the EMP tag in his name.
 

Infinite

Member
Name one of these things:



That is factually incorrect. You can't, except for maybe the first point depending on your definition of "shit".

I'm not willing to take someone at face value and not assume the worst when they themselves are not forthcoming with any information, and prior, factual history indicates otherwise. People have every right to question why a sponsored player, who said a week ago that he couldn't go to Evo because of "certain circumstances" is now asking for donations to get there less than a week beforehand with zero explanation from him, his team, or his sponsor.

The second point is factually incorrect. Triforce says crazy shit but I haven't seen him do shady things.
 
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