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Saints Row IV Refused Classification in Australia... again
- Thread starter jambo
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That's not true, there are a lot German only Versions. (Don't know about Australia)
Germany rating is 18 Uncut for Saints Row 4, and that is what we and the rest of Pal (other than Australia) will get. Australia will get a exclusive cut version or nothing.
Incentivised drug use was mentioned in the original report, so I'm not sure why Deep Silver didn't think to remove the offending content.
Xbudz
Member
Dang.
Time to campaign and lobby for that rating then.
They did the same in Germany and succeded.
But Germany isn't Australia. Submitting the game again with half of the offending content intact was just stupid.
MrCookiepants
Member
The R18+ rating has only served to replace the lower MA15+.
reptilescorpio
Member
Nope half the price lol
Rarely buy locally. Even the big sales are usually more expensive than importing.
You only know if you try. If i was Australian i would be glad that they at least try to get the uncut version instead of cutting everything immediately.
Well, no, Deep Silver knew well ahead of time, because it was mentioned in the original report. The OFLC isn't going to say, "Well, you took the time to remove the implied sexual violence, so I suppose we can look the other way on incentivised drug use!"
But this wasn't a resubmission, it was just a review of the original ruling.
Ah, right. The game's Steam page has had the "Low-violence version" disclaimer for weeks so now I'd assumed the game was resubmitted.
Well, no, Deep Silver knew well ahead of time, because it was mentioned in the original report. The OFLC isn't going to say, "Well, you took the time to remove the sexual violence, so I suppose we can look the other way on incentivised drug use!"
You don't seem to get my point. I know you don't want to hear about the German version, but this version was also the same that was refused at first. All the content that was listed as the reason for the refuse was still intact. Yet at the second time the version got a USK 18 rating.
Those things depend a lot on the person dealing with the case. And in that case they hoped this time they would consider the exaggerated (hope that's the right word) nature of the game.
And also what did they have to lose? The cut version isn't ready anyway (they have to make that first), so why not just try your luck?
IdreamofHIME
Member
Violence and bad language? no problem.
Drug? Oh shit, ban that now!
Drug? Oh shit, ban that now!
I think Steam just assumed that the eventual censored version would pass when Volition said they would alter the game, so they just added the disclaimer rather than removing the listing altogether. Places like EB Games have taken the game off their lists for now, though.
Quality control of the ps3 version?
Yes, it was just pointed out to me that the this was a review of the original ruling and not a new ruling on a revised version. As I said, not long after the game was originally RC'd, Deep Silver put up a "Low violence" disclaimer on its Steam page, so I'd assumed it was resubmitted and this ruling was in relation to that.
I suppose there's literally no harm in doing so assuming appeals don't incur a fee.
The only store pages Valve modifies of its own accord are those pertaining to its own games. The disclaimer would have been added by Deep Silver itself.
runnin_blue
Banned
Importing is cheap as all hell. I know what I'll be doing.
Steam always does this as soon as something got refused. That's because it will be basically a different game if they have to cut it. So if they would not make a different Steam entry for the (to be expected) cut version of the game it will be problematic with all the pre orders and stuff.
Happened to me with Sleeping Dogs for example. I preordered it before it was refused in Germany, so i basically preordered the international version. When the game got refused in Germany it did get a low violence entry in Steam, but i still got the uncut version that i preordered at the beginning. Because of that i was also unable to buy any DLC for it. Don't know if they sorted that out since then.
Again, Valve doesn't modify the store pages of games that aren't its own. It's up the publisher in question to keep the information up-to-date.
Edit:
Squeenix just hasn't bothered to upload the DLC to the German store. The RU version is also LV however it has DLC available.
Looks like another definite import then. Won't be the first and definitely won't be the last time I do it either!
Edit.
Oh, so the ORIGINAL, UNEDITED version got RESUBMITTED. and denied a second time. That's kinda okay I suppose. If Deep Silver decide to submit a third time, it'll be edited. Nonetheless, there is still a chance of the game being sold legally in Australia.
Edit.
Oh, so the ORIGINAL, UNEDITED version got RESUBMITTED. and denied a second time. That's kinda okay I suppose. If Deep Silver decide to submit a third time, it'll be edited. Nonetheless, there is still a chance of the game being sold legally in Australia.
No way. Those are the types of drugs people like the members of the board use themselves. They can't be bad for you.
I think the GTA V trailer showed Franklin using marijuana. Wonder if that means anything for GTA V in Australia.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Will have to import GTA when it comes out.
picky aren't we? Let's try it this way, because Steam is unable to sort things out if games that were prordered at a time before they got refused it is very important to list the eventuality of a cut version. Because otherwise it will be a total mess.
Of course Steam does not do this themselves, how should they, it's not like they know about every rating process of every game.
I just pointed that out, because if that wouldn't be the case I'm sure that more publishers would like to only have the low violence version listed if they are sure that they really have to make one.
My version is uncut, i know exactly what is cut in the German version, and i also know that my version is not cut.
Again you seem to not get the point, The German LV version of course has the DLC, but that's not the version i have even though i am in Germany because of what i wrote in my previous post. It basically behaves like a imported version even though it is not.
It could be sorted out till now, i don't know because i have uninstalled it some time ago.
I know what you were getting at, but it's tangential to the intent of my post, which was just a simple explanation as to why I'd erroneously assumed this news was in regard a modified version of the game.
matrix-cat
Member
I'm an Australian, and I import all my console games from the UK because I think it's just ludicrous to do otherwise. $55ish from DVD.co.uk vs. $89 at a store here - that's $34 that I'm just flushing down the toilet by buying locally. It's a huge markup that's so easily avoided by buying online. I'd have to be an actual crazy person not to.
But I do at least feel a tiny, almost imperceptible twinge of guilt when I import, because I know I'm failing to support my country's economy and all that Gerry Harvey crap. Luckily, I have the Australian Classification Board to make it all OK! I don't have to feel guilty about not buying locally when they make it so I can't buy locally. Thanks, guys!
But I do at least feel a tiny, almost imperceptible twinge of guilt when I import, because I know I'm failing to support my country's economy and all that Gerry Harvey crap. Luckily, I have the Australian Classification Board to make it all OK! I don't have to feel guilty about not buying locally when they make it so I can't buy locally. Thanks, guys!
Meh. I'll just import from the UK. Will cost half of Australian retail, too.
So annoyed that finally we get an 18+ rating and lame drug use is the reason for the knockback.
As a former poster said, I can mow down people with guns, rip their heads off, decapitate the shit out if them. But I can't take a drug. I think most people over 18 in this country knows that drugs are bad, mmkay.
So annoyed that finally we get an 18+ rating and lame drug use is the reason for the knockback.
As a former poster said, I can mow down people with guns, rip their heads off, decapitate the shit out if them. But I can't take a drug. I think most people over 18 in this country knows that drugs are bad, mmkay.
bodyboarder
Member
Sandy Nipples
Banned
I've met an Australian here in South Africa at work, who was here for two years, guy was incredibly bummed to go back, said the place is a giant police state. Of all the negative things about my country, like crime etc, I have to say, personal freedom down here is awesome. I have the personal freedom to play and watch whatever and when fucking ever I wish.
I wonder how moving from a relatively independent lifestyle to a bureaucratic 1st world theme park affected the hundreds of thousands of South Africans who emigrated there.
Also South African Breweries own Foster's.
I wonder how moving from a relatively independent lifestyle to a bureaucratic 1st world theme park affected the hundreds of thousands of South Africans who emigrated there.
Also South African Breweries own Foster's.
I wouldn't brag about that
toddhunter
Member
Yeah not really. There are just a few things that are particularly dumb like the names of pretend drugs in a videogame. Meanwhile The Last Of Us in all its violent and pill taking glory sails through.
Changing the names so that we can apply a two second mod to later revert them is the price we pay to keep those sort of people busy. Can you imagine what damage they could do if their attention was focused on something important? Always be careful what you wish for.
Yes, I know.
I'm saying that your inability to purchase the DLC is completely unrelated to your situation: you can't purchase it from Steam simply because it's not on the German store, not due to incompatibility issues. I'll also add that the DLC is universal; there are no region or version-specific subs.
reptilescorpio
Member
Thanks for taking that vile shit off our hands!
velociraptor
Junior Member
As long as I can play my video games, I could hardly care less if they're going to filter pron.
