Barry Burton
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Concept art looks awesome. Hopefully, it's more like K7 than SotD.
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Killer is Dead (Suda51/Grasshopper) announced for the PS3/360
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Discotheque
Banned
Day one on everything Suda's name is slapped onto. Love the concept art coming out of this.
Shadows was such a blast to play and the soundtrack stands as one of my favorites of all time in the industry now. Can't wait for Lollipop Chainsaw, but I'm most intrigued by this one because it does give me some Killer 7 vibes.
such a shame that the dude isn't directing at the moment though, what the hell....
Shadows was such a blast to play and the soundtrack stands as one of my favorites of all time in the industry now. Can't wait for Lollipop Chainsaw, but I'm most intrigued by this one because it does give me some Killer 7 vibes.
such a shame that the dude isn't directing at the moment though, what the hell....
Wow, this is really making me wish FSR was ported to 3DS instead. I liked using the stylus to write notes, but damn, seems like such an enormous downgrade in audio.
The OP dragged on and on on the DS, but the PS2 version seems cool as hell even though it's mostly the same footage.
not to take too much credit away from suda/grasshopper but 8-4 had a huge part in SOTD's story and dialog being so good
Those weren't really the highlights for me. The gameplay, art style, and environments were.
Pachterballs
Banned
it's just that I don't wanna see this game selling 24,000 on first week like SOTD
not to be a hater; but even with all the hype; SOTD; grasshopper/suda/shinji names attached to the title; did not move units. Which in itself is mind boggling - you can attribute it to EA or the appeal factor; so I just don't see the suda/grasshopper brand existing/pushing past a "very niche/non existent" market - when even the target audience won't buy the game; its quite telling.
story? what story? The story would be suda+grasshopper. SOTD had a terrible story.
8-4 did the translation work.
John Ricciardi (cofounder, 8-4): A lot of the banter between Garcia and Johnson, all of the posters and storybooks and such that was all new stuff from us, based on discussions we had with Grasshopper. It was very much a collaborative process; we worked together pretty closely over a period of about three months.
Probably because nobody wants to pay to produce No More Heroes 3, so he makes a carbon copy of it that is easier to sell to publishers.
Kinda like how Seth McFarlane came up with American Dad after Family Guy was cancelled.
Zoramon089
Banned
You realize this makes absolutely no sense...they're making games with similar gameplay, themes, etc. It would make more sense to attach it to a somewhat established franchise than a new IP
Anyway, Suda did say he was waiting for the next Nintendo console for NMH3
Frank Jaeger
Member
Now I want Killer 14!!!!
All hail Suda!
All hail Suda!
Criminal Upper
Banned
Well, he hasn't directed a single game since then.
LeadenStride
Member
It doesn't look like Lollipop Chainsaw is going to be anywhere near the level of Killer7 or some of the better Grasshopper games. Looks more like "just" a fun game without that much depth. Killer is Dead sounds promising though, but we can only hope. Hard to make even assumptions at this point.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
All of the concept art is really making me hope this frankly plays completely different from anything they've done up to this point.
I see your point, but We can change results as fans too. New IPs haven't done so well this gen anyways, that's another reason. Suda is creating new characters, worlds, controls, something Nintendo keeps away from and is benefiting with.
Sales say that people are allergic to New IPs, which is why trilogies/Sequels are hot. I KNOW IT SOUNDS RETARDED, but it's not creativity that sells in this 7th gen industry, it's familiarity(Arcade/Sequel/HD Remakes/Shooter). Making a New IP is risky, and when you get an audience to accept that character and not be hated for it, that is a success in itself!!! This is a hypothesis/opinion, not a fact. I personally want Suda51 to keep making new stuff as opposed to sequels while other studios are just working towards the next graphical upgrade.
sidenote: Shadows Of The Damned had an interesting colour palette btw, only rivalled by the next-gen UE4 Samaritan Unreal demo (Of Course the Crysis Engine pwns everything on colour so far)
"New lighting techniques are being pulled out of the woodwork to keep this sense of trepidation going, and the artistic style is being deliberately designed to evoke a suitable level of creepiness."
Can't wait to see what KiD has in store, might be a Sin-City colour vibe >_<
Yeah things went downwards a bit.
Suda needs to bring back the style and atmosphere from Silver Case.. badly. As much as I still enjoy Grasshopper's games, I really hope Lollypop Chainsaw is the last "dumb humor" title from them for a while. Console gaming needs more thought-provoking games. Suda is one of the few guys left around that I feel can still deliver that.
Criminal Upper
Banned
lolz no thanks to Kinect.
Capcom owns the IP anyway, and will probably never do anything with it.
LeaveItAlone
Neo Member
Any word on whether the Japanese version that releases tomorrow will have English language or subtitle options?
Dave1988
Member
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/666508-killer-is-dead/66864730
Here's a stream with a guy playing KiD:
http://www.twitch.tv/moruid
Combat looks very shallow with not a lot of variety so far. Guess it's another case of style over substance
Jawmuncher
Member
Gigolo on the stream right now
Edit: Wow that was no more offensive than ME scenes.
Edit: Wow that was no more offensive than ME scenes.
Dave1988
Member
Yeah... I still don't get what Matt saw in the mode that made him blow a gasket.
I've been posting my impressions on gamefaqs as I've already finished it; picked up the game on Wednesday from local import shop.
Took 9 hrs to finish 95% of the game. Then another 4 hours on very hard.
I did not enjoy NMH because of the controls (on wii then ps3/360). I never got around to playing Killer 7 or Lollipop.
But average game, really like the graphics, which are typical Suda 51. I did have some shitty screen tearing, but that was very early on in the game.
The hardest part about the combat mechanics is getting timing down for the counter/dodging. It isn't as lenient as Bayonetta or MGR. Some bosses will put you in some really annoying stun lock, which require you to mash your left stick. Don't expect to do a lot of weapon switching or anything. I only used one of the sub weapons for 90% of the game when required. Really useful for, I think two of the bosses as it does huge chunks, also for stunning bigger enemies and groups of enemies.
Gigolo missions are just a waste of time. I do suggest you go through it at least twice just to get the sub weapons; do it successfully three times if you want to get the trophies. The cat glasses (that let you see through their clothes and what gifts they like) is just a grind to get if you haven't unlocked the trial missions; since redoing them successfully only gets you 50 points...and you need 1000 to get the cat glasses.
About the cat glasses and Scarlett
I don't know what to say about the game, I enjoyed Bayonetta more. Probably a shit comparison anyway.
I'll post more impressions when I get the game back from a friend. I just don't have any desire or reason to continue playing it as the rest of the trophies/achievements I need are just stuff I don't want to bother with (AAA everything, etc)
Took 9 hrs to finish 95% of the game. Then another 4 hours on very hard.
I did not enjoy NMH because of the controls (on wii then ps3/360). I never got around to playing Killer 7 or Lollipop.
But average game, really like the graphics, which are typical Suda 51. I did have some shitty screen tearing, but that was very early on in the game.
The hardest part about the combat mechanics is getting timing down for the counter/dodging. It isn't as lenient as Bayonetta or MGR. Some bosses will put you in some really annoying stun lock, which require you to mash your left stick. Don't expect to do a lot of weapon switching or anything. I only used one of the sub weapons for 90% of the game when required. Really useful for, I think two of the bosses as it does huge chunks, also for stunning bigger enemies and groups of enemies.
Gigolo missions are just a waste of time. I do suggest you go through it at least twice just to get the sub weapons; do it successfully three times if you want to get the trophies. The cat glasses (that let you see through their clothes and what gifts they like) is just a grind to get if you haven't unlocked the trial missions; since redoing them successfully only gets you 50 points...and you need 1000 to get the cat glasses.
About the cat glasses and Scarlett
the cat glasses will break if you ruin your date with the other two girls; so you'll have to grind those 1000 points again to get new glasses!
I don't know what to say about the game, I enjoyed Bayonetta more. Probably a shit comparison anyway.
I'll post more impressions when I get the game back from a friend. I just don't have any desire or reason to continue playing it as the rest of the trophies/achievements I need are just stuff I don't want to bother with (AAA everything, etc)
Net_Wrecker
Member
Thanks for the impressions. I'd like to hear from someone who enjoyed NMH and played Killer7/Shadows of the Damned/Lollipop as well, just for comparison.
I'm really interested in the plot and seeing if it has any throwbacks to previous games, but I'm thankful for the impression. I'm going to make things even harder for myself and swap guns every two seconds
Been playing this game, and it is a technical mess. Constant screen tearing and it can become disorienting even just moving the camera around.
Very interesting design and theme throughout the game for those who likes pop culture, grindhouse related things.
Combat is what I would call godhand lite. The system is dependent on get up close to the enemy/boss and from there you can execute different combinations/skills while dodging or guarding incoming attacks. Doing this well allows you to unleash more stylish attacks or execution moves. It's not a bad system, but nothing extraordinary.
If a patch comes and fixes the technical issues with this game, it is a solid purchase for Suda fans.
Very interesting design and theme throughout the game for those who likes pop culture, grindhouse related things.
Combat is what I would call godhand lite. The system is dependent on get up close to the enemy/boss and from there you can execute different combinations/skills while dodging or guarding incoming attacks. Doing this well allows you to unleash more stylish attacks or execution moves. It's not a bad system, but nothing extraordinary.
If a patch comes and fixes the technical issues with this game, it is a solid purchase for Suda fans.