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I believe they said architecture in a whole.
And who wants to show a console thats been hit with 15 to 20% performance ?
It would be the nail.

Edit: maybe its not consoles running but PC again with a gtx680 ?
More than likely. The CoD mp event last week did NOT have the game playable on an actual console, but on a PC running at xbone specs.
 

The Flash

Banned
I think it's more they don't want to show the newest build that has more of the hooks implemented. They will have something around 100 kits running playable demos, so those are all probably running on an earlier version of the XDK.

We have a winner
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Gamestop/Microsoft recently announced a special program where you can trade in your 360 versions of particular games, and get $50 credit towards the XB1 version. One of those games is Call of Duty: Ghosts.

Why would Microsoft ever create such a program if the XB1 was going to be out anywhere near the launch of Ghosts, on Nov 5th?

This program existing makes me think the earliest we're gonna see the XB1 is mid November.
Good catch, I had completely forgot about this deal. Seeing as it's limited to 360/xbone, it's gotta be why.
 

$h@d0w

Junior Member
War. War never changes. Since the dawn of console kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything: from Ico to Halo to simple, psychotic rage.

I tried, I'm tired

A classic:

The console war has changed. It’s no longer about fanboys, blast processing, and stolen exclusives. It’s an endless series of proxy battles fought by gamers and publishers. The console war – and its consumption of used games– has become a well-oiled machine. The console war has changed. ID-tagged gamers carry ID-tagged discs, use ID-tagged consoles. Mandatory online check-ins and used-game DRM inside consoles limit and regulate game playing abilities. Used-game control. Game-lending control. Game-selling control. Offline play control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. The console war has changed. The age of next-gen console experiences has become the age of game console control…all in the name of averting piracy and publishers missing out on used-game sales. And he who controls the game console controls the game industry. The console war has changed. When the game console is under total control, the console war becomes routine.
 

The Flash

Banned
Most media outlets probably look at every CBoaT comment as thoroughly as we do. They have to work on verifying with their own sources though because you would look like an idiot if you tried to source a leak from a CBoaT post. That's the beauty in the way he posts his leaks.

I hope they do. If I ever saw a professional outlet use a Cboat post as their source or as confirmation for anything, I would have a serious case of the facepalms.
 

SegaShack

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I agree, and after debating for a while I decided to keep my XB1 preorder. For people who REALLY don't want to spend the money to get Kinect, then I could see them waiting to see if it turns out true or not. I would prefer to not have to buy Kinect myself, but since it's included, and they already spent a boatload on R&D, I would personally rather have them keep it in, in the off chance that there is some sort of meaningful gaming application produced for it.

If taking it out is the right choice to get more market penetration and by consequence more games for the system, then I guess I could eventually get behind that too. I guess hard opinions aren't my strong suit.

Those are pretty much my thoughts as well. I have one pre-ordered and the idea of a Kinectless version that would be cheaper is nice. I am not super into the Kinect, but that being said I have become excited about the technology involved and the benefits the Kinect does offer. Being able to tell the system what to do with voice commands sounds like a unique experience.

To me it just isn't worth waiting till April to see if "whispers" of a potential release will actual become a full retail product. I would rather pay the extra 100 dollars and enjoy the benefits the sensor does offer than wait 5 months in the small slight chance that there could be a cheaper Kinect-less version.
 
Wasn't planning on getting an Xbone until next year when Halo 5 releases. If the Kinectless SKU is actually a thing and out by then....perfection.

Things would take a serious competitive turn with a $350 Kinect-less Xbone. I'd definitely be considering one at that point, without a doubt.
 

nib95

Banned
I hope they do. If I ever saw a professional outlet use a Cboat post as their source or as confirmation for anything, I would have a serious case of the facepalms.

Given he has a far superior record of accuracy compared to any other insider on the planet, why would you do that?

I wouldn't say his word is 100%, not because of Cboat himself, but as other insiders will themselves say, things of this nature are dynamic and change constantly. However, he's highly unlikely to be wrong unless things do take a late change or he's misinterpreted something. He is after all human, I think lol.
 

Casimir

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What did the other Gaffer did?


According to Reiko, some other GAF member sent her/him false insider information about the Xbox One being substantially more powerful than the PS4. Reiko apparently got caught up trying to compete with Buttocks/zomgbbqftw/thuway/matt etc, and instead of exercising good judgement, posted the false information as insider information. In accordance with GAF rules, Reiko was banned when the specifications were released.


Reiko may have been making up the other GAF source though, there's no way to authenticate her/his claims. Was a pretty cool GAF member though. I hope his ban expires soon.
 
Not surprised. We're talking about people who thought that a RAM upgrade was going to happen because MS was going to switch to the developer's kit motherboard or something. Also, the supposed source of Digital Foundry's infamous PS4 RAM allocation article (i.e. pure BS).
What ended up coming from that, was none of it true? I skipped over that whole debacle.
 

mjontrix

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I hope cboat has peppered his angus since Microsoft is going to come down hard on him - if the XBone fails I guarantee he's going to be the scapegoat.
 

SkyOdin

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Given he has a far superior record of accuracy compared to any other insider on the planet, why would you do that?

I wouldn't say his word is 100%, not because of Cboat himself, but as other insiders will themselves say, things of this nature are dynamic and change constantly. However, he's highly unlikely to be wrong unless things do take a late change.

Because it is foolish for a journalist to write an article based on a source they don't themselves know anything about. Even if that source is extremely reliable, it is a risky thing to do. We can't even be certain that cboat is the same person every time. The mods might have the ability to do so, but they aren't talking.
 
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Deleted member 80556

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According to Reiko, some other GAFFER sent her/him false insider information about the Xbox One being substantially more powerful than the PS4. Reiko apparently got caught up trying to compete with Buttocks/zomgbbqftw/thuway/matt etc, and instead of exercising good judgement, posted the false information as insider information. In accordance with GAF rules, Reiko was banned when the specifications were released.


Reiko may have been making up the other Gaffer though, there's no way to authenticate her/his claims.

Oooh, yes, of course. Still, this is a site were all insiders know each other and talk to each other.

Reiko made the mistake of not talking to them to compare sources. If it came from a fellow Gaffer who set him up, then he would still be posting.
 
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Deleted member 80556

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What ended up coming from that, was none of it true? I skipped over that whole debacle.

A PS4 developer and several GAF insiders said that the numbers were wrong.

The insiders said it was 5,5GB of physical RAM and 0,5GB of virtual RAM. (I have no idea what's the difference, I only know that adds up to 6GB of RAM).

EDIT: Crap, sorry for the DP.

EDIT 2: Also, what Casimir said. Leadbetter (who wrote all the PS4 bashing articles) used as a source for this a B3D member who was talking BS.
 

nib95

Banned
Because it is foolish for a journalist to write an article based on a source they don't themselves know anything about. Even if that source is extremely reliable, it is a risky thing to do. We can't even be certain that cboat is the same person every time. The mods might have the ability to do so, but they aren't talking.

They could absolutely write an article about Cboat stating rumours, so long as they advertise it as just that, and not use it as straight fact. Hell, journalists write about rumours and insider titbits all the damn time.
 

Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
What ended up coming from that, was none of it true? I skipped over that whole debacle.

Leadbetter is a known Xbox fanboy. He had a very public meltdown with series of blatantly misleading articles trying to mitigate the PS4's dominance over the Xbox One; and destroyed all credibility that Digital Foundry had in the process.
 

CLEEK

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If truthfact #4 means that MS are funding a sequel to Vanquish, then every single thing that done wrong in regards to the Xbox One will be forgiven in my eyes. I might even buy one!
 

Pop

Member
Wasn't planning on getting an Xbone until next year when Halo 5 releases. If the Kinectless SKU is actually a thing and out by then....perfection.

This is me. Still need to see if Halo will return to being Halo of old this time and the kinectless system needs to be a thing.
 

Abominuz

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I hope cboat has peppered his angus since Microsoft is going to come down hard on him - if the XBone fails I guarantee he's going to be the scapegoat.

No Don Mattrick was the scapegoat.
You think MS cares ?
They will always go full denial.
The C meister has been around a long time.
If they cared they would have put more effort to catch them.
Maybe MS even lets him do it to measure public response.
The truth will come out eventually so better be prepared how people will react.
 

The Flash

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Given he has a far superior record of accuracy compared to any other insider on the planet, why would you do that?
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Put yourself in the shoes of an editor-in-chief. One of your writers comes to you with information from a proven source and that source is Cboat. The information is going to be good but there is that little problem of presentation. Do you present the information unedited or do you provide your own edited translation?
 

mjontrix

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No Don Mattrick was the scapegoat.
You think MS cares ?
They will always go full denial.
The C meister has been around a long time.
If they cared they would have put more effort to catch them.
Maybe MS even lets him do it to measure public response.
The truth will come out eventually so better be prepared how people will react.

Hmm good points... MS really dont seem to gie a crap for anything really... As long as they're on dat dere USGov. funding they couldn't care less. The only real threat I see for them is in the field of OS if linux ever became popular but Im not holding my breath on that.

Cboat never change!
 

kitch9

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I've seen metaphors comparing Xbox One's DRM to rape here on NeoGAF.
I think it is just best not to collectively generalize a large community as there are some douches and idiots everywhere.

Whilst hyperbolic, the description was apt.

You would have to be a complete headbanger to think otherwise.
 
Got a link to that post?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11957229&postcount=1044

It's over, period. Sony lost their last ace, and that's the end of their PS3 hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for PS3. Sony has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a PS3. Except if they want to play MGS4. Which will also come to 360 at some point.

The age of Sony is done.
 

enzo_gt

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I don't mean to be that guy, but this thread has blown up considerably since I last saw it.

Any new news/corroborations/etc. for what CBoaT said since he made this thread or what? Aside from Gies' antics.
 

nib95

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No-country-for-old-men-tommy-lee-jones-25069727-450-276.jpg

Put yourself in the shoes of an editor-in-chief. One of your writers comes to you with information from a proven source and that source is Cboat. The information is going to be good but there is that little problem of presentation. Do you present the information unedited or do you provide your own edited translation?

Edited. Eg, renowned NeoGAF insider posts more rumours regarding the next gen consoles. Here's what we could make out of his post.

P.S, I'd only do this if I was one of the more tabloid blog esque sites like Kotaku, not a more established site that generally only posted pre officially confirmed information unless they had direct info otherwise.

But this is talking make belief, in reality I think it's probably better if this stuff just stays here on GAF.
 

The Flash

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Edited. Eg, renowned NeoGAF insider posts more rumours regarding the next gen consoles. Here's what we could make out of his post.

P.S, I'd only do this if I was one of the more tabloid blog esque sites like Kotaku, not a more established site that generally only posted pre officially confirmed information unless they had direct info otherwise.

But this is talking make belief, in reality I think it's probably better if this stuff just stays here on GAF.

Exactly. It works here but it's not gonna fly anywhere else. Not if you take your job seriously.
 

Abominuz

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I dont understand why people have so much trust in MS, that they will buy a Xbox One day one ?
Xbox 360 was my most played console this gen.
Other than that, hardware wise the messed up before.
I had 3 consoles that had RROD, until i got my elite.
The customer service was great no complaints there.
Software wise, they have a great online servers and Live is the bomb.
But since the Ps3 release was a year from, why did MS put out the console so hastly ?
Only to gain momentum or they just didnt care releasing a faulty product ?
Again i enjoyed my 360 but trust has been lost, and the issues with MS and the One since the reveal havent put any more trust in me.

Sony FTW

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The Flash

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Seeing as how I didn't play much Halo 2 online, yes! It would be a new experience to me.

Same here! And the great thing is unlike Halo CE, Halo 2 actually had LIVE protocols written for it. That means that all 343i and Microsoft have to do is resurrect the protocols and then boom! Halo 2 Anniversary! And you know that they're going to do it too. They would be daft not to make a remake of the game that made console online multiplayer what it is today.
 
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