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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero (PS3/4/Vita/360/XB1/WiiU/PC) Kickstarter [800K/400K Funded]

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Hiltz

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I like the different concept character designs for different reasons except the original version, but my favorites are Pirate's Curse and 1/2 Genie Hero (with tan skin, of course). However, it was Risky's Revenge that gave her the biggest make over, so these games all have their place in making Shantae look amazing.
 

CTLance

Member
Still too bright, they barely tweaked her skin tone. If they did at all, not sure.

Needs more tan!
I already missed Ghost Song. :(
You can still get all rewards by using paypal. Link is on the Kickstarter page, right below the video.
 
I've never followed a kickstarter like this before, I really hope it reaches at least it's initial goal. I know every kickstarter can't have Mighty no 9 levels of success but how do these things usually play out? I would be so bummed out if it didn't meet its goal.

The stretch goals sound cool as heck and I am hoping they are achieved. If that 1.1mil one really is voice acting I'd love it, especially if the voices were somehwat cheesy (like mighty switch force). If some of them aren't met then I think it would be pretty cool if they were still developed and then released as DLC.
 

Platy

Member
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Was Shantae THE first non white female protagonist ?
 
So, yeah, I agree with some here saying that Mighty No. 9 will be taking a chunk of people who would have backed this, but I think if WayForward can build a good campaign for it, it will do well. Getting the later stretch goals is...well...stretching it. I suspect we'll go as far as the first bonus chapter, but not much more at this rate.

I wonder how the ninja and summer costumes will act (Patty Wagon's costume seems obvious to me).
 
I hope they discount the gb color and the dsi game on the eshop when the release de 3ds game, i have been wanting to get into this series for a long time now
 

Sonicbug

Member
This popped up on my twitter earlier:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/gigideegee/status/375343738500829187[/tweet]

That's the artist formerly known around these parts as hiimdaisy. At least the backgrounds should look nice!
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
I hope they discount the gb color and the dsi game on the eshop when the release de 3ds game, i have been wanting to get into this series for a long time now
They need to discount Shantae Risky's Revenge because $12 is too much for that now. They also need to lower Mighty Flip Champs! and Mighty Milky Way because those are both overpriced at $8 each. Also, they need to fix the Canadian pricing of Mighty Switch Force! 2 because it's $7 in Canada while it's only $6 in the US. Fuck you WayForward.
 
They need to discount Shantae Risky's Revenge because $12 is too much for that now. They also need to lower Mighty Flip Champs! and Mighty Milky Way because those are both overpriced at $8 each. Also, they need to fix the Canadian pricing of Mighty Switch Force! 2 because it's $7 in Canada while it's only $6 in the US. Fuck you WayForward.

Mighty Switch Force! 2 was released they discounted the first one, so thats what im hoping for with shantae
 

Moonlight

Banned
This popped up on my twitter earlier:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/gigideegee/status/375343738500829187[/tweet]

That's the artist formerly known around these parts as hiimdaisy. At least the backgrounds should look nice!
I might back this project just because of this.

Hiimdaisy is the greatest.
 

Zonic

Gives all the fucks
This popped up on my twitter earlier:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/gigideegee/status/375343738500829187[/tweet]

That's the artist formerly known around these parts as hiimdaisy. At least the backgrounds should look nice!
Wow, holy crap. Amazing to see them go from Persona 4 comics to working as an artist for WayForward.

& YES to the GBA demo being an extra. That would be cool to see what they had finished during the time.
 

TheOGB

Banned
This popped up on my twitter earlier:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/gigideegee/status/375343738500829187[/tweet]

That's the artist formerly known around these parts as hiimdaisy. At least the backgrounds should look nice!
Wow, really? That's neat

Yes, it would be incredibly nice to play that demo they mocked up for the GBA years ago... if only to sate my curiosity.

Mark and Matt aren't related, right?
OH SNAP, DO IT WAYFORWARD

And they're brothers IIRC
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Yes, it would be incredibly nice to play that demo they mocked up for the GBA years ago... if only to sate my curiosity.

That would be pretty cool. I tried to pimp that game a lot back in the day when I was an editor at GBA Central. It's a damned shame it never materialized.
 
but my only way to add credit to my eshop is through pre paid cards, which i have to buy for 30$ the 20$ ones . so yeah , waiting for a discount

What? Where are are you buying them from?

Try here.

EDIT: Then again, that requires a credit/debit card which I'm assuming you don't have otherwise you could just us one on the eShop in the first place....
 
I'm honestly not pledging any money toward this because of her skin being white. I would have otherwise.

Call me a drama queen, but I just don't buy "well a different artist does it every time so we didn't even notice we just leave designs up to the artists." That's not how design works. You don't design Shantae without looking at her old designs first to make sure you're drawing Shantae. You don't do it in a vacuum, it passes through multiple people. And the fact that their "compromise" to "fix it" that they posted today was to it was to keep her as white as possible and change her from pale white skin to a pale white skinned person who was out in the sun or one day just says to me it was an active choice to make her white.

I've known dark-skinned people who have bleached their skin. That kind of thing is dangerous and it happens because of society pushing shit like this, intentionally or not. I'm sure wayforward isn't sitting around and going "we hate brown people, let's make her white" but it's a stupid, conscious decision to lighten her way up like that.

Maybe it's just because I've experienced and seen what this kind of attitude can do but I just can't support something like this, even if I like wayforward. They couldn't let the like...ONE brown girl who's a main character in a game stay brown? Come on.
 

catabarez

Member
I'm honestly not pledging and money toward this because of her skin being white. I would have other wise.

Call me a drama queen, but I just don't buy "well a different artist does it every time so we didn't even notice we just leave designs up to the artists." That's not how design works. You don't design Shantae without looking at her old designs first to make sure you're drawing Shantae. You don't do it in a vacuum, it passes through multiple people. And the fact that their "compromise" to "fix it" that they posted today was to it was to keep her as white as possible and change her from pale white skin to a pale white skinned person who was out in the sun or one day just says to me it was an active choice to make her white.

I've known dark-skinned people who have bleached their skin. That kind of thing is dangerous and it happens because of society pushing shit like this, intentionally or not. I'm sure wayforward isn't sitting around and going "we hate brown people, let's make her white" but it's a stupid, conscious decision to lighten her way up like that.

Maybe it's just because I've experienced and seen what this kind of attitude can do but I just can't support something like this, even if I like wayforward. They couldn't let the like...ONE brown girl who's a main character in a game stay brown? Come on.

I feel they are listening to the fans and are going to fix her skin tone. They already did change it and that is a start.
 
I feel they are listening to the fans and are going to fix her skin tone. They already did change it and that is a start.

If they do actually change it that's great. I'd love to see that! I'd pledge if they did.

It's just the "fixed" image that they posted today doesn't fill me with confidence. That was really barely a change whatsoever and I don't believe the "oh we didn't even notice" initial response.
 

SegaShack

Member
Hope this does well, I've visited them in 2010 and they do have a sealed Shantae copy in their studio (along with the other games they've worked on) in a display case.
 
Will donate if they make her brown again.

Also, their reasoning for it happening in the first place is BS and only makes them sound incompetent. I mean, really? W/e artist you have working on it can just make her look how ever they want? No rule book? No guide lines? No one steps up and says "HEEEEYyyyy, artist person! You ... Kinda made her go from brown to being snow white ...you DO know she's brown, right"?

It's bs, everyone knows it's bs and though I would love to start playing this series I wont support blatant white-washing. So show us something like the edit that's floating around and they get my donation of $15.
 

Lusankya

Member
If they do actually change it that's great. I'd love to see that! I'd pledge if they did.

It's just the "fixed" image that they posted today doesn't fill me with confidence. That was really barely a change whatsoever and I don't believe the "oh we didn't even notice" initial response.

No, they said this:

Creator WayForward
Hi friends! Since there were a lot of comments regarding skin tone, we lined up all the Shantae artwork from past games, and the skin tones are all over the board. We've always left this to artist discretion in the past. However, this new artwork does stand out as the lightest she's been since back in the GBC days, so I'm sure we'll adjust it once we have our character lineup established. This is a great example of Kickstarter comments shaping the eventual product, so please make your opinions heard!
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
If they do actually change it that's great. I'd love to see that! I'd pledge if they did.

It's just the "fixed" image that they posted today doesn't fill me with confidence. That was really barely a change whatsoever and I don't believe the "oh we didn't even notice" initial response.
I just thought it was funny that they posted the "fixed" image in the same post with the old designs so you can see how much whiter she really is.

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mao2

Member
I'm new to this series but I'm loving the artwork already. The characters are super cute! Still deciding whether I should pledge $35 or go all the way for that hard cover artbook + flipbook in the Platinum Edition. $200 will leave a huge crater in my pocket though... :/
 

Psxphile

Member
Wow, really? That's neat


OH SNAP, DO IT WAYFORWARD

And they're brothers IIRC

Yeah, I just confirmed it myself here by using the search. Also more info on the GBA game that never was.

Dragona's comment earlier in that thread turned out to be prophetic on two counts.
 
I just thought it was funny that they posted the "fixed" image in the same post with the old designs so you can see how much whiter she really is.

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I think the DS version fits her character best.

The 3DS and new design is a very drastic change. I understand it is to appeal to a new crowd, but as a fan, I wish they didn't change so much.
 

TheOGB

Banned
Yeah, the early Pirate's Curse art seemed like a natural progression of, and improvement over the Risky's Revenge art, I liked it a lot.
 
Want to back this but Atelier Meruru Plus just came out and I have Disgaea D2 at the end of the month , and Pokemon X and Y (and I need to get my taxes done this month). Have got it set to send me a reminder though.
 

Jobbs

Banned
Do you guys think that a game with a lighter complexioned character would actually have higher sales than if everything else were equal and her complexion were darker? And do you actually think this is a calculated decision by WF? On the first question I'm not sure, but on the second question I would really doubt it. I think a character of middle eastern descent (which I assume Shantae to be based on) can have varying skin tones and thus it's open to artist interpretation.
 

EDarkness

Member
I think the DS version fits her character best.

The 3DS and new design is a very drastic change. I understand it is to appeal to a new crowd, but as a fan, I wish they didn't change so much.

I agree. I wish they would go back to that one. Looks better all around. The new design looks so chibi. I really hope that isn't the final one.
 
Eh, wasn't my first thought.

I mean, yeah, she's been getting lighter as time went on (RR art, 3DS VC art), but even in-game she was darker than that (those RR cutscene expressions above). But then again, even in that same game I think her sprites were lighter.

But again, holy fuck is she whiter than ever on the KS page.

Jesus WayForward, you're not consistent with this at all, are you? :V

To be fair, this was one of the first pieces of art for Risky's Revenge in Nintendo Power:

 

CTLance

Member
I'm so torn. I know kickstarter just shows concepts, and comparing it to a nearly finished game is stupid at best, but....

But... Why does the 3DS version look so much more appealing to me? It's got Electrolytes, Pirates, Metroidvania, RPG floaty number bits, less child-looking Shantae, and most important of all, it has Pixels. Piiiixelllllllz.
And those pixels are something that will never get added to this game. Probably. Unless there's a Pixelshantae costume, ...which would not be satisfactory, anyway, with the rest of the world remaining "HD".

Not gonna budge from my pledge, not ever, but between this, steam only, and the skin tone issue (which seems to be in the 3DS version, too, much to my dismay) I do not really feel like upping my pledge, no matter how shiny that Gold Doubloon is.

And the Gold Doubloon is damn shiny. I want it so bad.
 
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