You mean 2ds.
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Monster Hunter 4 has already sold 2 million copies in Japan (4 days)
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You mean 2ds.
Yes, I've seen this question a few times in the Media Create threads. It is odd as to how the chips seem to have fallen in regards to platforms.
frankie_baby
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2ds aint coming to japan (at least not yet)
frankie_baby
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sörine;82300557 said:
I would imagine there have been some desperation moneyhats from sony after they lost monster hunter but I would expect to see some of those series appearing on 3ds sooner or later
Oh really? Didn't know that. I wonder why.
DrROBschiz
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They are being pretty conservative themselves so Im not sure if they try to negotiate on MH again or not.
I really hope they do and that they localize it this time. Missing out on Portable 3rd was really disappointing considering all the work was basically done outside of the Ad-Hoc Party fiasco
RumblingRosco
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Personally, I'd shit my pants if I swam into a Gyarados underwater.
frankie_baby
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3ds is selling like hotcakes in japan as opposed to just ok everywhere else, i'd imagine it'll be held back there for sometime maybe barren of releases when it needs a boost
My guess:
In US they were forced to put the "3D effect not to ne used for people under 7 years old" warning.
This, plus the still strong DS sales, plus the smartphone erosion, affected 3DS sales.
So, they came up with a solution for younger target age: 2DS: play 3DS game "safely". And oh: no hinge to be broken too! C'mon daddy: buy it for Christmas, together with Pokemon.
In Jap they sell like crazy right now. 2013 will probably repeat 2012 LTD hw sales (got thanks to the new XL model and to Animal Crossing) thanks to DQ7 remake, MH4 and Pokemon XY.
No need to put the 2DS on that market now.
2014 will have no DQ "main" (just the remake of a spinoff, up to now), no MH (unless they'll come out with 4G, but I think it will be too early) and no Pokemon main (even if they will probably put out Pokemon Z, I think).
So: better keep the 2DS for 2014 in Japan.
The same reasoning could be applied to the Zelda Link Between World delay in Japan (early 2014), while I'm still dazed by their delay of DKCRTF for Wii U (that's struggling a lot also in Japan...)
What if the PSP was simply a MonHun machine to many PSP owners? And the Monster Hunter market expanded into the more casual Nintendo market instead?
That article you posted up was not recent either. It was in May after Soul Sacrfice came out. It's like asking the Wii U owner if they would like GTA after Lego City was released.
Calamari41
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Why "oh wait"? Expected or not, neither the Gamecube, Xbox 360 or Vita didnt get a mainline Monster Hunter game, but the comparison was hardware sales to Monster Hunter 4 software sales, so Xbox 360 and Gamecube are valid examples as well
I think that people were comparing sales of Monster Hunter 4 to lifetime sales of Vita specifically because from the moment the game was announced, every thread on the subject has been full of people whining and crying about how the game should have been for Vita. Even this thread has some. The news that it sold more copies than there are Vitas in the wild speaks directly to this topic and provides justification for Capcom's strategy.
frankie_baby
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and the fact that its was pretty clear 3ds was the monster hunter machine well before vita even launched means literally no one should have bought a vita expecting monster hunter
DrROBschiz
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You guys are just set and happy huh
I personally find playing monster hunter on 3DS to be very compromising.
I am at the very least hoping for a WiiU version in our future. Gotta have my dual sticks and voice chat
Don't try to sell me on the awful CPP half solution and horrible screen.
FreedomFighter
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Now you're just 3DS bashing.
DrROBschiz
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No
Its a great system. I think I was pretty specific about what game I found issues with and why.
The CPP wouldn't even exist without an outright acknowledgment of this issues when it comes to certain games. Heck look at the massive effort Capcom put into the WiiU patches as proof that these modern features matter
MH4, Pokemans in October.
It's a real shame the success of those games will probably keep this idiot in his job a while longer.
Well, Pokémon is only the best invention since sliced bread after all.
The CPP makes the 3DS comfortable to hold, tbh. I really like it. Looks like shit though.
Tons of games have compromises due to the hardware that they run on. It's just a reality of the medium. If you want it on a different platform, then just hope that there are enough people who think the same as you, enough to make a significant difference in the market...
Cosmo Clock 21
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They mattered so much MH4 broke prior sales records without them.
I have both the 3DS version and Wii U version a I must say that for a game like Monster Hunter, I wish the second stick moved the camera faster because how slow it does move now is somewhat annoying and at times game breaking. I somedays prefer playing on the 3DS and not just because of portability. I feel the locking on big enemies mechanic has served the series well. Would be nice if it were a dedicated button.
iamaustrian
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congratulations to capcom (and Nintendo)
I think they needed that after the recent news.
I'm honest; I would totaly buy an upgraded WiiU version(similar to MH3U).
off-topic(sort of):
It's so frustrating that in every freaking mon hun thread a completely unrelated handheld console gets more posts than the mother system. (and that's apart from the usual "stealth" port begging)
I think they needed that after the recent news.
I'm honest; I would totaly buy an upgraded WiiU version(similar to MH3U).
off-topic(sort of):
It's so frustrating that in every freaking mon hun thread a completely unrelated handheld console gets more posts than the mother system. (and that's apart from the usual "stealth" port begging)
DrROBschiz
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Same here
I mean like mentioned above. Clearly the game is good enough that people are hardly stalled by whatever compromises there are and people have already had time to adapt after 3G/3U much like we adapted to the compromising PSP editions.
But I have to tell ya. After enjoying the comforts of playing on Vita/WiiU its really hard for me to go back.
If they localize it though Ill likely grab an XL, import a CCP XL and tough it out unless they announce a WiiU version in the near future.
pretty done
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Keep fighting the good fight, we'll get a good controls Wii U version eventually.
2 millions copies Capcom sold to retailers
Cosmo Clock 21
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I don't think you have anything to worry about on that front; a western announcement would likely coincide with one for MH4 HD in Japan like it did for 3U.
I think the thing you might not be understanding is that there's two different viewpoints on this subject in the thread, and it's something a lot more nuanced than some iteration of "3DS versus Vita".
The viewpoint you're espousing is an idealistic one; you have a perception of what you want from the series, and so you're arguing from the perspective that, all else being equal, that's what's best for the series.
The opposing viewpoint is talking in the context of business realities. All else is *not* equal. 3DS requires little investment above the PSP iterations, it's being aided extra support from Nintendo, and it has the userbase for local multiplayer. People aren't harbouring any malice towards your standpoint, it just appears to be fundamentally unrealistic in light of current market trends. Your arguments against it boil down to "I want it this way, therefore it's good business sense". That's not a rational conclusion.
frankie_baby
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seriously your arguments are becoming a joke now, monster hunter 4 has voice chat
Cosmo Clock 21
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I got bad news for you...
ChesterCharm
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MH4, Pokemans in October.
$60 gone.
frankie_baby
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does it not? my mistake if so, my googling of the issue was rather quick
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I think there are even people in this thread claiming that it will have sold more on the vita
Pretty sure the topic was on point until someone thought it to be funny to compare MH4's sales to Vita LTD sales. Let's stop acting like all Vita fans actively seek out Nintendo threads to piss in their cereal.
Principate
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Eh judging by the poster in question it seemed more like a random observation.
Vyse The Legend
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It's not looking likely. 8-4, who did the translation for Tri and MH3U, aka the last two games to come here, confirmed that they're not doing it.
It looks like we'll have to wait until the G-version again.
frankie_baby
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its a fairly obvious and important point though
test_account
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It could be, but it could also be just to point out how low the Vita hardware sales are. That is why i (and some others as well) mentioned other platforms like the WiiU to add to this point =)
I think that the people who want Monster Hunter on Vita wants it because of personal reasons (to play the game on a platform they prefer more). At least i cant remember seeing someone saying that making Monster Hunter 4 for Vita would be a much better choice sales wise.
Yeah, seeing how Monster Hunter 4 sold so far on the 3DS, it definitelly shows that it was a good strategy for Capcom indeed. I dont think that the Vita is very relevant to this though. I think that MH4 would have done great on 3DS regardless of how good or bad the Vita is doing. I also dont think that Capcom thinks now "we're so glad that we didnt put MH4 on Vita because that system has only sold ~1.6 million units so far in Japan", because it is a pretty safe bet to say that the Vita situation would be different if MH4 was exclusive for Vita instead.
durrrrrrrrrr
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they actively piss in every Monster Hunter thread. there's better discussion on Gamefaqs and 4chan when it comes to MH.
test_account
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Out of curiousity, why is it an important point?
When "Vita: what could have been" is the second post in a MH4 sales related thread 2 years after the announcement of the game, you know we have problems.
Oh I wasn't calling him out in person. I apologize to ArtHands if it came across that way.
This is what I was referring to. Dumb comments like these.
Calamari41
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Because Sony/Vita fans won't shut up about this game not being for their system.
I find it ridiculous, baffling, and frankly insulting that anybody is trying to suggest that Monster Hunter 4 topics have not been full of Vita port begging and people making proclamations that it would sell better on Vita. It has even been happening in this thread. This is a derail , so please just do yourselves a favor and scan through some old MH4 threads to see what I'm talking about. If you don't want to do that, then I don't see what you have to contribute.
I hope you aren't referring to this thread. A simple ctrl+f search shows something else.
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