Captain Marvel had cancer. Decided he didn't wanna die, so he and the Avengers launched a plan to murder Death so no one would ever die. Eventually, they all became corrupted, began worshiping dark gods, and their universe started to burst and spill over into others.
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Fact : Franklin Richards is the most powerful person in comics - Yay or Nay?
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Captain Marvel had cancer. Decided he didn't wanna die, so he and the Avengers launched a plan to murder Death so no one would ever die. Eventually, they all became corrupted, began worshiping dark gods, and their universe started to burst and spill over into others.
Darkmakaimura
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This is what I hate about comics, especially DC and Marvel. All these god-like beings. There's always a 'this guy will beat this guy because he has powers extending throughout the multiverse/megaverse', etc. It becomes cluttered with Living Tribunals, Thanos, Beyonders, Demonbanes and so on.
Manmademan
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Yep. Even post is pretty damn powerful, though Richards is probably stronger.
I wish the revengers would find a home in cosmic marvel
slightconfuse
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Angelus Errare
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It was so wacky that it was good.
Manmademan
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So...don't read the ones with space gods in them? Most are smaller scale. Cosmic entities usually only show up for significant events, spout something cryptic, and leave. They don't get into fist fights.
TacticalFox88
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Lol. The One-Above-all shits on EVERYONE.
Epsilon-delta
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I nominate Lucifer Morningstar from DC/Vertigo:
As a mere mortal, beats gods with just his intellect
Tells Death from the Endless that he has no claim on him and even threatens her
Dream from the Endless states Lucifer is more powerful than him by far
Talks to Spectre like a child
Looks into the Source Wall and views all of creation at once like it's nothing
Stepped outside The Presence's (DC's The One Above All) creation to mercy kill his brother Michael in order to save him. Takes a point blank multiverse blast without a scratch. With his will, starts shaping his multiverse into whatever he sees fit. Establishes one rule to all of his creations of his multiverse, don't worship anything or anyone, including him
The Presence names Lucifer as the "King of contrivance and manipulation
Lucifer meets The Presence outside creation and asks Lucifer to merge with himself, Lucifer says "no" and goes on his merry way
As a mere mortal, beats gods with just his intellect
Tells Death from the Endless that he has no claim on him and even threatens her
Dream from the Endless states Lucifer is more powerful than him by far
Talks to Spectre like a child
Looks into the Source Wall and views all of creation at once like it's nothing
Stepped outside The Presence's (DC's The One Above All) creation to mercy kill his brother Michael in order to save him. Takes a point blank multiverse blast without a scratch. With his will, starts shaping his multiverse into whatever he sees fit. Establishes one rule to all of his creations of his multiverse, don't worship anything or anyone, including him
The Presence names Lucifer as the "King of contrivance and manipulation
Lucifer meets The Presence outside creation and asks Lucifer to merge with himself, Lucifer says "no" and goes on his merry way
Eh, most of these characters barely show up and of those that do, most are like Franklin in that they never use their powers. Mainly because the writers can't figure out what to do with characters that strong.
When these guys do show up, they're usually interacting with one another and not Earth scrubs like Captain America.
Basically this.
Darkmakaimura
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I don't mind it, I just think it's become too cluttered with them. Hell, my favorite Marvel character is Doctor Strange. I just think there's way too many cosmic threats - and by cosmic, I'm talking universe shattering - that it's saturated them. It's like "oh ho hum, here's another being that's going to toss around universes like a ping pong ball."
Manmademan
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Go read secret wars 2, then come back. Beyonder got hit in the face with a blast that would have annihilated "a million universes" and shrugged it off.
That whole event reads like bad fanfiction, or a five year olds concept of the most badass fight of all time. Dudes throwing planets like baseballs, etc.
Edit: pre retcon, beyonder was a sentient universe infinitely larger than the marvel universe (as a drop of water is to the ocean) that collapsed itself down to three dimensions to investigate, gets pissed, then wrecks everything. Totally unstoppable, can do anything he could concieve of, etc etc.
Epsilon-delta
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He got retconned so I didn't use him. Lucifer beat the Two Titans, who at the time had all the powers attributed to Yahweh. Lucifer goes back in time to the point before the Two Titans gained the powers of Yahweh and kills them.
Lucifer still hasn't been retconned.
People get paid to come up with this. This is amazing.
Winterfang
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Not Marvel related but one of the Aliens from Ben 10. Gave him the power to recreated the universe. (it was about to be destroyed) so Alien X created a new one, because Ben is a teenager and not God, some of designs, visual appareances of things changed permanently.
yea then they started worshiping cuthlu
... that's a vagina.
The Living Tribunal
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Recreating a single universe is nothing compared to what some cosmic characters can do. Also, not comic related. Also, Ben10 related, and therefore made of fail.
Angelus Errare
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Ben... 10...?
lol
SolarPowered
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Maybe if you spent too much time reading this thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491722
Pop-O-Matic
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to vote Batman too. He's basically been God-Modded to the point that he can beat anyone and anything, no matter their canon power level.
What was the last issue of Batman have you read?
Hot Coldman
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Random question: did Black Widow suddenly get a lot more prominent in the Avengers post-IM2, or was she always sorta a big deal in those comics?
Muffdraul
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Wow, this is amazing. A couple weeks ago I saw that Criterion had released The Ice Storm on blu ray so I ordered it and watched it for the first time since it came out. It takes place in 1973 and throughout it, the Tobey Maguire character is reading the latest issue of The Fantastic Four. Every once in a while they show a few panels on screen, and it's always stuff about Franklin Richards being zapped by the villain and getting these powers, and what ends up happening to him, what his own father ends up doing to him. I really wanted to read the whole issue, so I went to ebay and grabbed one for about $5. Read it the other day, and the issue ends with Franklin basically being turned into a vegetable. The last panel said that was the end of the storyline and that a brand new storyline would begin next issue. I totally wondered what ended up happening to Franklin after that, and thought "Eh hopefully some day I'll remember to look that up."
That was like two days ago. Now I wander in here and stumble across this thread. Life is neat sometimes!
That was like two days ago. Now I wander in here and stumble across this thread. Life is neat sometimes!
I'm not quite sure how she attained this power, but she got "comic awareness".
And yes, I know that Deadpool is aware that he's in a comic. It's just that reading his comics was like reading the old "What The?" comics and I never took him seriously. I mean, Howard the Duck also has "comic awareness".
I recall She-Hulk mentioning her "comic awareness" (to herself, or cryptically so nobody knew what she was talking about) even in serious storylines. If Deadpool has ever done this, then I don't know if it and I'll get schooled...
She actually lead the Avengers for a while and been a firm part of their history, but they really pushed her post IM2. After they killed her replacement.
The Living Tribunal
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Batman isn't the prep god the internet has made him out to be.
People like Reed Richards, Doctor Doom and Black Panther utterly destroy Batman when it comes to using "prep time" efficiently.
Boss Riovane
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Lol Yelena "I just want to be black widow" Belova.
And why does everyone keep thinking Bats is that powerful......?
Just why.
...and Tony Stark! Remember, Doctor Doom and Tony Stark sat down and made a time machine together from scratch!
Has Bruce Wayne ever done that? Nope.
I too am tired of people saying Batman is the strongest of all, when he has never come close to beating even Deathstroke, based on my knowledge.
People who have heard about Tower of Babal third hand.
Doesn't one version of Franklin Richards hook up with one version of Rachel Grey? Cuz you add Franklin's infinite power to the "as-strong-as-the-plot-demands-it" Phoenix and I can't imagine how stupid broken a child of that pairing would be. Like Franklin's makin' galaxies and Phoenix works with universes and no doubt Franky's gotten to universe level at that point.
Or watched Justice League Doom.
The Living Tribunal
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DonasaurusRex
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wait is the uber powered grandson that could use some hyper space dimension Franklins son then? I would guess Franklin is the most powerful , mortal entity...his powers are ..like being an editor IN a comic. Theres always the dreaded haha your powers dont work on me trick though like the beyonder can mess with the phoenix, or all the aspects couldnt mess with Thanos when he had the gauntlet.
btw Dr Doom can still beat him.
btw Dr Doom can still beat him.
Manmademan
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Fun fact: Thanos turned wolverines bones to rubber for shits and giggles during the infinity gauntlet. Franklin could do the same.
Sir_Crocodile
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Yahweh in the DC universe - he's basically the Abrahamic God. Not sure if he's currently canon though (from Sandman/Lucifer)
DonasaurusRex
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wasnt that like..Vertigo? I guess they merged them but obviously an entity that is before the uni/omni/multi verse is more powerful i think the OP meant IN comics so , pick a char that is...finite.
Fanfiction couldn't ever hope to approach how insane that sounds.
Sir_Crocodile
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JLA guys were in sandman, and Sandman was in Grant Morrison's superb JLA run.
Yahweh's "place" in creation was takeable as well, I remember some titans or something taking his power after he departed by understanding the "shape" of his existance.
Lucifer smoked them before they understood how to use it properly.
Creation > Universe
that is not black widow, but no not particularly. she's always been sorta important in a supporting character to crossover events sort of way.
Riposte
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It was amazing. Loved Cosmic Marvel.
It was a great story.
DonasaurusRex
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Yeah thats dumb , Yahweh doesnt have a place IN creation he's the cause of it, if they are talking about Yahweh from the bible. Any god IN a creation is a demi-god. Any of them outside of creation is clearly far beyond anyone IN the creation so theres no point in bringing them up in a discussion like this because no amount of potentiality could fuck with an actuality outside of all creation.
Thanks Obama.
You haven't read much Deadpool. He's talking directly to you like half the time.
What arc is this? I would like to read it. Love me some black gods ac corrupt heroes.
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