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PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
- Thread starter Canis lupus
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Does your laptop have an HDMI input?
So, in theory, my physical copy of Golden would work, but not the DD version of it? Again, talking NA region versions of both.
And boo @ no VLR on that list.
This is an entry-level console for people looking for something for their kids, that looks to have a greater lifespan at this point than the Wii-U and isn't a Wii. The sharing of peripherals with Sonys main consoles is a masterstroke (buying one controller for use on multiple systems is a great way to soften the financial blow), and when you add in the rest of the functionality offered (streaming, PS+ & all the games that it brings) it's a no-brainer.
This is Sony going for Nintys jugular; they've sensed blood in the Iwata, & they're lining up for the kill. Sony could end up being the Apple of Japan in a couple of years, especially if they do end up including this device in their TVs.
This is Sony going for Nintys jugular; they've sensed blood in the Iwata, & they're lining up for the kill. Sony could end up being the Apple of Japan in a couple of years, especially if they do end up including this device in their TVs.
So, in theory, my physical copy of Golden would work, but not the DD version of it? Again, talking NA region versions of both.
And boo @ no VLR on that list.
it should work since this thing is a Vita and should work just like any Vita portable, your US account and US PSstore games from that account should work on a Japanese Vita TV(since Vita is region free).
outunderthestars
Banned
I am struggling to see what this offers to the average consumer. $50 more buy a PS3, which offers the same streaming services as well as a much larger content library, bluray playback, etc.
LMAO.
The problem could be if the Vita TV has its own store (just like PS3 games didn't appear in Vita, maybe incompatible games didn't show up in VitaTV store).
If this happened and US/EU/AU games are not patched when the TVita launches in Japan, you may be not allowed to play most of them. It wouldn't be a problem if that R3 to emulate touch controls is real, but preordering that thing before it actually releases and people know how it works is like a bet. Maybe it works, maybe you'll have a useless machine until Sony decides to release that thing in the west.
I would wait until that thing is released in Japan before buying the TVita
It's a small device that once installed can be hidden away (size is everything), no discs (I'd argue blu-ray is losing relevancy to HD streaming and digital media), less chance of hardware failure (no moving parts), and built-in support for modern features that were / are being shoe-horned onto ancient hardware.
Assuming most households with one of these will have a PS4 as well, the PS+ crossover will just add more value to the package; & if Sonys streaming service works as intended, the PS3 catalog will be available on it anyway.
It's all about convenience.
It confirms that they understand an ecosystem can be greater than the sum of its parts.
Sadly, no
You can get dongless to convert your USB to HDMI input
H_Prestige
Banned
It confirms they understand handheld gaming systems are going the way of the dodo. It confirms they understand that microconsoles are a potentially large and lucrative market. It confirms they are clever and smart by making a microconsole based on the Vita system, thus reducing financial risk down to zero and greatly reducing time to market.
I would LOVE to know just how much time and money it took from conception to product on the ViTV.
Father_Brain
Banned
Sony says this is aimed at casual/family users.
What first-party titles have they put out for that demographic? Little Deviants, Smart As, LBP, Smart As, Jak Collection, and Epic Mickey 2.
What such titles do they have on the way? Tearaway, Invizimals, and PS Vita Pets.
All of these titles, save the games ported from other platforms, make significant use of Vita's nontraditional controls, and thus won't be playable on Vita TV without significant patching and/or design changes.
It's clearly not a very high-risk product, and it'll at least sell to a devoted niche of core gamers, but there seems to be a pretty wide gap between Sony's stated goals and reality.
What first-party titles have they put out for that demographic? Little Deviants, Smart As, LBP, Smart As, Jak Collection, and Epic Mickey 2.
What such titles do they have on the way? Tearaway, Invizimals, and PS Vita Pets.
All of these titles, save the games ported from other platforms, make significant use of Vita's nontraditional controls, and thus won't be playable on Vita TV without significant patching and/or design changes.
It's clearly not a very high-risk product, and it'll at least sell to a devoted niche of core gamers, but there seems to be a pretty wide gap between Sony's stated goals and reality.
I had wanted to see the Vita get a proper dock to hook it up with the TV directly, but I suppose I can see some merits to this approach as well. I do hope it at least means a UI overhaul is in the works for the Vita itself, since I can't believe Sony is going to try to convince everyone that the Bubble UI is somehow conducive to larger screens.
I find it weird Virtue's Last Reward isn't compatible(Kyokugen Dasshutsu ADV: Zennin Shibou Desu/Extreme Escape Adventure:Good People Die). The game doesn't require a touchscreen at all, even in the puzzle sections. Even though the non touchscreen controls were bad, it still doesn't require it I'll still pick one up if it comes to the US.
I'll still pick one up if it comes to the US.Only 1st party titles count? What about 3rd parties?
And given the intended plan to support the DS4 as well, they'll be able to expand to included more games with more vita specific controls at that point.
Father_Brain
Banned
Okay - what third-party titles are supposed to appeal to casuals/families? Lego games and what else?
The DS4 touchpad will probably work better than the touchscreen emulation at launch, but not by that much. It'll work fine for purely gestural touchscreen controls, which are exactly what it's designed for (those that track the motion of the finger rather than its exact position), but it won't cover the rear touch or cameras at all, and it'll be awkward at best for any functionality designed around touching specific areas onscreen.
Pretty sure its aimed as a set top box that plays games. That's what they mean as aimed at families. A cheap console to stream media and play cheap games.
Zoe
Member
The PS Archives situation is vastly different in Japan. They don't need to depend on Vita native output for that.
pressing L3/R3 brings up some sort of cursors to control the touchpads.
Sapiens
Member
Interesting - and I guess the L2/R2 buttons could activate on the location of the cursor.
Agent X
Member
There are a few others, too, such as ModNation Racers: Road Trip and Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time. Both of these require the touch screen in their present incarnations on the Vita, but they could be easily patched for DualShock 3 controls.
If you take into account the PlayStation Store, then there are a lot of games that would appeal to children, families, and casual gamers. This includes third-party games, as well as PS1 and PSP games.
I think they will develop patches for games that aren't highly reliant on features such as the touch screen and cameras. For example, you have a game like Wipeout 2048, which uses the touch screen primarily to navigate the use interface. That could be easily patched for controller navigation. Something like Gravity Rush would require a little more though and effort, but it still could be done. However, a game like the upcoming Tearaway couldn't be done on just a DualShock 3 controller.
Games like Mutant Blobs, Rayman, Jetpack Joyride, Pinball, Spelunky, etc. It's not a vast library, I'll grant you, but they're not starting from scratch either and it shouldn't take that much to justify a ~$100 purchase. The increasing support from independent studios as well as back catalog of PS1 and PSP titles does seem to offer plenty of ongoing appeal for the more casual/family segment.
Man... If a game did this, that'd be so fun. LAN parties are great, but I'm not going to have many friends that own PS4s any time soon.
SwiftDeath
Member
I'm not super technical but I imagine the option would have to be built into the game as I doubt the PS4 would be able to differentiate what part of the video stream belongs to which player if that makes sense
Still would be cool
Heads up for those in Japan wanting this. It's available for pre-order on Amazon.co.jp now. Last week it was posted but you couldn't reserve it (unless I missed an earlier availability but I don't think I did)
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00F27JNGS/
I went for the value pack. Only 4,000yen more and you get the controller and 8GB card. Only wish I could get it in black.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00F27JNGS/
I went for the value pack. Only 4,000yen more and you get the controller and 8GB card. Only wish I could get it in black.
I called this shit in this thread and now I can't find the post: the savior of PSVITA TV:
http://psvita.mhf-g.jp
http://psvita.mhf-g.jp
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
Yes, this they do understand.
Not sure if posted, here's how the VitaTV UI looks and navigates on a TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdaV7Tf14tE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdaV7Tf14tE
As expected, identical to the Vita.
It sold out earlier and I guess it sold out again.
Minecraft, Terraria and vita pets.
I'm glad to see Yoshida confirm that games can have a different control scheme when booted up on Vita TV as opposed to a Vita.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/tgs-an-audience-with-shuhei-yoshida
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/tgs-an-audience-with-shuhei-yoshida
That's good news but I still hope they do some touchscreen/backtouch emulation via the DS4 because some games surely won't get patched.
It's gonna be a MGS4 trophy patch situation all over again.
BronsonLee
Member
The only game I want straight up banned from Vita TV is DJ Max Technika Tune.
Play that game and tell me how that works on this shit
starting to get a little complicated for devs
developing a vita game - look at different settings for whether a user is playing on a Vita TV
Developing a PS4 games - need settings for PS4 controller, Vita touch controls for remote play, and potentially a third setup for remoteplay via Vita TV (unless PS4 remote play on vita TV requires a DS4..)
I can't imagine it being any different to the Vita itself in that regard.
Regarding Vita games, it's a matter of a control scheme for a DS3/4. some games won;t work, so some will either need to change a mechanic for Vita TV or will just plain drop it from the game.
Regarding PS4 games, Yoshida said they have a default key map for RP bu they encourage devs to look at it and make changes to fit better.
They already showed in one of the trailers that PS4 RP via Vita TV can use the DS4.
I try to check amazon.co.jp every few days to see if they have preorders up. Have not checked in a week but they are up now. Both the regular and value pack!
This is what is holding me back as well.
Yeah, that is a potential issue. My thing is then I'll just use it for that region's games. You know, my J-PSN account.
I'm also just so damn curious about the product...wanna see how it works, upscalrs, etc. Plus I get another ceramic dualshock in the process.