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[coldcrush]

I wouldn't normally comment, because one way or the other pretty soon we will find out so people just need to chill out and wait for the announcement before reacting one way or the other. It would be a shame if the game were delayed as I am looking forwards to it and I think its great to have it in the hands of everyone with PS + Meaning that the social side of things you always know there is going to be a large player base for the time being anyway...

However, I guess I am commenting and my gut feeling is that to be able to get the game on physical disks and out to retailers for launch it would have to be the cut off date around now,
The announcement may be delayed because they are not sure yet, trying to cram to try to get everything in before the cut off date,, So no one is confirming or denying because the last few days and maybe next few it could go either way, so they can't commit to an answer of yay or nay
This may well be incorrect but I suspect that this is a very crucial time.
I hope it comes out at launch or as close to, but not at the cost of the game not having everything they want in it or being the game they worked for years to create.

Notable to mention may be that yes they could potentially release the digital version on day one (assuming it is features they are working on rather than technical issues), but this may not make sense business wise as I would assume they want people who enjoy the PS+ version to be able to purchase the retail version immediately if they like it/complete it. There is a lot of money at stake and the people in the know will be crunching the numbers

 

[darkside31337]

I mean something new, exclusive to the system.

Injustice is technically a next generation console exclusive. But I know what you mean.

I really doubt Sony replaces driveclub with a different game. Well I can see SCEE stepping up to the plate and SCEA failing miserably like usual.

 

[DC R1D3R]

Yes it's exclusively the better console version on the PS4.

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Maybe the next time we see this game it will actually be some sort of crazy off road racer called DriveStorm or MotorClub

 

[Lady Gaia]

If you believe the person that confirmed the delay, he also said no to what you suggested.

It seems unlikely. Part of the point of putting a title that doesn't have a strong following is to get people interested in picking up the full title. If the full title isn't available, you waste that opportunity. So I have a hard time seeing it coming out a month or more ahead of retail release on PS+, but it's not clear what Sony is waiting for given their lack of response to the rumors so far.

They're either trying to put together an announcement that limits negativity surrounding a delay, or they're going to dispel the rumor in a fairly dramatic fashion. The former feels more likely. (I guess there's an outside chance they're scrambling to see if they can correct an issue blocking certification in time to make the retail launch, but that feels less likely at this point.)

 

[Prince Vultan]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

PS4 isn't the console in need of saving.

 

[Skeff]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

lack of depth? it's still launching with more games than the xbox one buddy. I suggest you look at the various posts pointing out how disingenuous or wrong your last post was.

 

[ethomaz]

Nothing? After the Brasilian price I'm hating you Sony

 

[Prine]

im not surprised it looked like it needed tremendous amount of work when i saw it at eurogamer expo. We all thought GT6 looked better at the show

 

[Tallshortman]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

PS3 did not have GT prologue at launch.

The PS4 doesn't need "saving" in the first place.

 

[GodofWine]

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

We are now "saving the ps4"...its gonna be ok, it need not be saved.

 

[Tsundere]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

lol, all of a sudden PS4 needs saving.

 

[djjinx2]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

HAHA Thats a good one.

So PS4 needs saving??

Preorders are all gone upto christmas pretty much (in some countries at least)
Topping charts Above XBO in most places (Dont know about US)

Your hilarious!!

 

[TheJollyCorner]

PS4 isn't the console in need of saving.

boom goes the dynamite

 

[Beer Monkey]

I really doubt Sony replaces driveclub with a different game. Well I can see SCEE stepping up to the plate and SCEA failing miserably like usual.

They can't devalue Plus. They need to demonstrate the value of Plus by giving away something full-ish in size and scope within the first month.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

Wait.... the PS4 now needs saving?

Hilarious.

Some people are really taking any negative (even if unconfirmed) PS4 news and just going crazy.

 

[dyergram]

Why am I addicted to this thread? I don't even like driving games.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

Oh jeez, really?

 

[EvB]

Multiplayer KZ:SF would be a fair swap.

Well it wouldn't given that they've already announced the DLC maps to be free

The only reason that Driveclib was free was because it's been designed to drive Microtransactions

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!.

It had Gran Turismo HD Concept. A demo for all intents and purposes.

 

[Glorified G]

But why do exclusives matter? I would say they're the biggest reason to pick one nearly identical console over another.

And everyone else would say price.

I mean something new, exclusive to the system.

It needs to be affordable and have games people want to play. Nobody cares that GTA V or any popular third party game can be played on more than one console.

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

You're begging for an avatar quote aren't you?

 

[FourMyle]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

nice post history

 

[viveks86]

PS4 version comes out 11/12/13, the Tuesday before launch.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&fs=saas&saas=saas&keys=keys&st=ps4+injustice

They didn't? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=692848

Well, Injustice isn't on XB1....

29th november, so EU launch xD I suppose that may have been an EU press release though...

You are right. I was a little confused about it because it said November 12th. Made me think it would be available for other platforms then and PS4 was not yet explicitly confirmed for Day1. Guess it should be implied.

Having said that, NFS is a week after launch in the US, right?

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/08/need-for-speed-rivals-xbox-one-and-ps4-launch-details/

 

[goonergaz]

Ha, the fact Driveclub isn't even in the top 100 makes this thread even better!

But most would likely be trying before buying, after all even if you don't PS+ every PS4 comes with 14days free trial of the game...with the ability to upgrade to the full versn at a reduced rate, so why risk it if you don't have to?

 

[GeeDuhb]

I think one of the main reasons for a delay could really be that they are releasing it as a "incomplete" version on PS+ in hopes of creating more sales from it. If the game has issues/is incomplete, buggy, not visually impressive, that could be a huge blow to their game sales strategy.

As others have said though, I think this is yet another premature GAF meltdown. It will not hurt system sales much, if at all. This will all blow over. The console will still sell boatloads. If people are really judging whether to buy a console based on a launch lineup (especially with how radical game quality changes based on system "age")...wow.

 

[EvB]

They can't devalue Plus. They need to demonstrate the value of Plus by giving away something full-ish in size and scope within the first month.

How can they devalue if when at the very worst it's still cheaper than Xbox Live?
You'll get a free Drive Club, just a little later than you thought, you are no worse off.

 

[darkside31337]

Why am I addicted to this thread? I don't even like driving games.

Looking at preorder charts for both consoles and general numbers from the past few years - its pretty evident most people don't like those games.

They can't devalue Plus. They need to demonstrate the value of Plus by giving away something full-ish in size and scope within the first month.

I agree with you but they're stuck between a rock and a hard place right now.

 

[freakazoid377]

Multiplayer KZ:SF would be a fair swap.

After seeing what they did with Killzone 3, they may have already been planning this for one of the next few months Plus content seeing as their won't be much to offer for free until there is a bit of a backlog built up to cull Plus content from.

 

[DC R1D3R]

PS4 isn't the console in need of saving.

hahaa

X1's gonna do just fine pal.

ack of depth? it's still launching with more games than the xbox one buddy. I suggest you look at the various posts pointing out how disingenuous or wrong your last post was.

Apart from resogun, how many can you remember without doing some research? No multi plats!

PS3 did not have GT prologue at launch.

The PS4 doesn't need "saving" in the first place.

If you think Knack as back up is enough, you're in for a world full of hurt pal!

We are now "saving the ps4"...its gonna be ok, it need not be saved.

All fingers crossed!

 

[deranged_666]

I think people in general put way too much importance and emphasis on launch titles. Yes, they are important in that they serve as mediums to get a core audience invested in the system. With the PS4, this has already happened. Sony will sell out every console they can manufacture for the launch, regardless of the WD and DC delays. From all accounts, this is likely somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million units. That's a *big* number. And not enough people are going to cancel their preorders for it to make any bit of difference to that bottom line.

I'll admit, I was a bit bummed when I first heard the news. Driveclub was going to be the game that got me back into racers (last one I put any amount of time into was GT3: A-Spec). But then I took a look at the bigger picture: there is still a wealth of content to be played at launch and during launch window. Then, we have Destiny to look forward to shortly after. Watch Dogs and Driveclub sometime soon-ish after that. By then we'll likely have an idea of what ND, SSM, and MM are doing. The future looks awesome, and in 8-12 months we won't even remember these launch titles anyway.

EDIT: And I still think it's kinda silly that some people are breaking launch titles down into first party/third party. As if that matters in the long run. Games are games. If they are good, you'll play them, no matter who puts it out. All these "Sony are doomed, they only have 2 first party titles LOLZ" messages are really reaching. Nobody really cares.

 

[Joeki11a]

Why does this matter?

DC was not a must have

 

[BeastLeeAdams]

I think this game is getting such criticism for the rumor of getting delayed because Sony has had almost no negative press since it announced the PS4 meanwhile the Xbox One has just gotten lots and lots of hate. The Xbox fans are pissed and want something over Sony fans, and even though this game was just made to satisfy PS4 owners who want a next gen racer(since GT6 is on PS3), the Xbox fans are going to hold this against them.

 

[Kagari]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

So how about those Q1 Xbox One titles?

 

[Beer Monkey]

Well it wouldn't given that they've already announced the DLC maps to be free

The only reason that Driveclib was free was because it's been designed to drive
Microtransactions

Make the maps free for the retail buyers but premium for the Plus players? Drop some of the modes for the Plus players?

I don't know. They need to come up with something.

Maybe they just need to suck it up and make Knack free for Plus. Minecraft? They'd have to pay Mojang a shitton for lost sales.

 

[Joeki11a]

hahaa

X1's gonna do just fine pal.



Apart from resogun, how many can you remember without doing some research? No multi plats!



If you think Knack as back up is enough, you're in for a world full of hurt pal!



All fingers crossed!

at 550 dollars with no games or extra control
i dont know Pal...

XBO is going to be the "lets wait for a price
Drop console"

 

[Impeccable]

Apart from resogun, how many can you remember without doing some research? No multi plats!

I don't understand why that is so important to anyone about any system. Great games are great games on any platform and if I have no intentions of buy that game on another platform then that game certainly counts.

I guess in the big picture of things, list wars.

 

[goonergaz]

How can they devalue if when at the very worst it's still cheaper than Xbox Live?
You'll get a free Drive Club, just a little later than you thought, you are no worse off.

True, but the to launch with 'just' Resogun won't really make people sub. I believe the idea of giving DC at launch was to get people online and then re-subbing, and a AAA to boot. So Sony need to replace like for like if they are to achieve that goal.

 

[Razgreez]

4,000 posts pretty incredible

Internet marketers, this is how you drum up interest for a game which was crawling under the radar. Just simply put out rumors of a delay and boom - interest at an all time high

 

[coolasj19]

The real reason they delayed the game is because they couldn't figure out a control scheme for Vita Remote Play.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Thread seems to be safe right now, so I'll quickly post my two cents. Or maybe some more spare change.

• I am very surprised. Did not see it coming that close to console-release and after a very open communicaton from the devs - see Rushys awesome posts and the videos in insane quality they made avaliable for us. (Awesome move by the way!)
• I should have seen it coming. At least a bit! A 35%-complete Pre-Alpha with some serious graphical issues at E3 - only a handful of months ahead of release. That should have made me at least a little suspicious. Also there is some truth to the often mentioned lack of other cars in gameplay-footage and demos.
• I am a bit sad about it. Because I was planning to play mostly Driveclub and BF4 after launch. And I wanted to lure my brother into PS+ with the promise of DC+-Edition. Last game we played "online" was Soldier of Fortune 2 in LAN. Damn. Would love to wake up his inner competitive gamer again. Welp... maybe next year!
• I want the best driveclub possible. I do not want to play a game that has obvious flaws and could have a lot better, given more time. Driveclub will my one of maybe two next-gen-racinggames I will play in the next year. It better be good!
• So far only some website and some dudes from the internet are the base of all this. This is still a schroedingers cat kind of thing. But GAF does a nice job of pretty much making me sure about the day. Good job, folks! I love the lunacy of console-launches.
• I do not know what that makes me feel or think. Or what people should do now. But I am most entertained by the thread so far. The way it developed, the way famousmortimer chimed in, Rushys tweet. It is a bit like solving a murder mystery. We have the clues for the crime, but no one is talking. Reminds me of the "did I see a vafina in Geist"-thread.

Love you, GAF!

Good post. This is why GAF rocks. While the news isn't great, detective GAF is HIGHLY entertaining. Meltdown posts followed by bans often become classics as well. The mods have been awesome, and even though I've been angry with my own bans, I have come to understand that they were necessary.

My thoughts on this DriveClub news a day later falls in between the extremes. While it's bad PR for Sony, but it shouldn't hurt them that much. It sucks that the game is delayed and the timing with WATCH_DOGS makes it worse by possibly spreading doubt that Sony isn't ready for launch, but I think these feelings will only be felt among the hardcore. If the game is delayed for quality reasons, that's a good move by Sony. This is a new and interesting looking IP and it needs to be polished. If it in fact is a replacement of sorts for the PGR series, we need sequels and we don't get those if the game sucks.

 

[Fixed1979]

Alright, this thread has jumped the shark. Some people were masterfully trolling, but now others have made it just sad.

 

[WoolyNinja]

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch

Stealth "Minecraft as free PS+ replacement" post? Tell us what you know!

Why am I addicted to this thread? I don't even like driving games.

Tell me about it, I can't stop from pushing refresh every 30 seconds!

 

[Loudninja]

haha that's a good one.

Seriously though, the lack of depth in PS4's launch line-up is worrying me just a tad. Sony need to step it up a notch!

At least PS3 had GT prologue and VF5!

Killzone will do very well, but it can't save PS4 on its own.

Lotta concern trolling up in here.

.

 

[PaNaMa]

No Drive Club, no bluetooth headset support. C'mon Sony!
I'll buy your beautiful sexy console anyways, but get it together!

For Reals: Drive Club looks like it needs work still, even at its most recent showing. The alle ged delay (IMO) is a good thing. Forza is sharp looking, will be 60fps, and the relatively unpolished Drive Club would probably just provide fodder for people comparing apples to oranges.

Launch lineup could be better tho, all the same.

 

[bidguy]

lack of depth? it's still launching with more games than the xbox one buddy. I suggest you look at the various posts pointing out how disingenuous or wrong your last post was.

launching with games i can play on my pc right now you say ?
ok

 

[marvin83]

I think people in general put way too much importance and emphasis on launch titles. Yes, they are important in that they serve as mediums to get a core audience invested in the system. With the PS4, this has already happened. Sony will sell out every console they can manufacture for the launch, regardless of the WD and DC delays. From all accounts, this is likely somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million units. That's a *big* number. And not enough people are going to cancel their preorders for it to make any bit of difference to that bottom line.

I'll admit, I was a bit bummed when I first heard the news. Driveclub was going to be the game that got me back into racers (last one I put any amount of time into was GT3: A-Spec). But then I took a look at the bigger picture: there is still a wealth of content to be played at launch and during launch window. Then, we have Destiny to look forward to shortly after. Watch Dogs and Driveclub sometime soon-ish after that. By then we'll likely have an idea of what NS, SSM, and MM are doing. The future looks awesome, and in 8-12 months we won't even remember these launch titles anyway.

The real question is...

How many actually have this pre-ordered compared to how many were gonna download the free PS+ version and decide on upgrading after?

This sucks, if true, but I don't see many canceling (if any?) their pre-order (PS4 pre-order, not #Driveclub) because of this. This will hurt sales, no doubt, but not any much more if the released it on-time. There's probably a 5:1 ratio of PS+ vs physical pre-orders for this game.

 

[TheRealTalker]

hahaa

X1's gonna do just fine pal.



Apart from resogun, how many can you remember without doing some research? No multi plats!



If you think Knack as back up is enough, you're in for a world full of hurt pal!



All fingers crossed!

All of a sudden DC as a launch title became the backbone for the PS4

-_-

 

[Beer Monkey]

All of a sudden DC as a launch title became the backbone for the PS4

-_-

Nah, it's no loss IMO. But it was the backbone of selling PS+ to new PS4 buyers.

 

[Gorillaz]

PS4 and even the X1 don't need help or saving the first few months of launch. Hype and media will do the work. Its the spring time and forward that will need help. I don't know why they waited this long to tell people bout the delay unless it was some last min game breaking bug

People acting like this was going to make or break the launch are crazy

 

[darkside31337]

Apart from resogun, how many can you remember without doing some research? No multi plats!

It's really weird to see this argument now about how multiplats don't count.

Multi platform games were one of the biggest reasons the 360 outsold the PS3 in the US and the UK. People bought the system because its where their friends were all playing COD, BF, FIFA etc.

The danger MS is facing are early adopters jumping ship and having other people follow them - the $100 price difference being way more important than any exclusive on either side.

I think people are seriously overvaluing Sony's games on a sales level. Especially when it comes to Driveclub. A game that Sony already knew wouldn't do a ton, they didn't choose to put it on PS+ on day 1 out of the goodness of their hearts.