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[Carl]

HDD the same size as in PS3, right? 2.5" SATA? Thinking of bunging a huge HDD in on day one

 

[Number45]

Thats enough for a 2TB drive right now.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-395-WD&groupid=1657&catid=1660&subcat=1667

Hmm, I'll take smaller and faster I think.

 

[tipoo]

HDD update..



only 12.5 mm HDD fits...

It says MAXIMUM of 12.5mm. That doesn't at all imply that ONLY 12.5mm fits. In almost everywhere that 12.5mm is allowed, 9.5mm still works fine.

@tipoo: normal ones are 9,5mm (max. height for PS3 hard disks)

Hmm? I know?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Scroll up.

Watch the post time, he posted that one while I was still writing mine.

 

[DBT85]

HDD the same size as in PS3, right? 2.5" SATA? Thinking of bunging a huge HDD in on day one

Same width as the PS3, but the PS3 can only take 9.5mm drives. The PS4 would appear to take 12.5mm drives so you can drop a 2TB drive in if you want.

 

[netBuff]

It says MAXIMUM of 12.5mm. That doesn't at all imply that ONLY 12.5mm fits. In almost everywhere that 12.5mm is allowed, 9.5mm still works fine.

Any smaller drive will fit in any bigger drive slot as the connector and screws are always at the same place. The maximum drive height for the PS4 seems to be 12,5mm.

 

[DieH@rd]

They just updated with HDD info... anyone can translate?

This is google's

As there are more questions about the hard drive was, here are a few details: The PS4 a HGST (Western Digtal) inserted 2.5-inch drive with 500 gigabytes of memory and 5,400 rpm. Important info for all hobbyists: It will only plates with a maximum height of 12.5 millimeters in the case.

Is this a confirmation of 12,5mm and thus 3TB drives?

No. This is for 2.5" 12.5mm drives, they come in smaller storage sizes. 1.5TB is already very expensive, and 2TB [which are 12.5mm in height] are REALLY pricey [more than console].

 

[gruenel]

well maybe the extra space is required for airflow to keep temps down? just a thought

There's no "airflow" in the tiny space between the HDD mount and the HDD.

 

[Kinan]

Uh, no, 15mm is needed for 2 TB, 1.5 TB it is then. At least now there is some choice.

 

[Skeff]

Thats enough for a 2TB drive right now.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-395-WD&groupid=1657&catid=1660&subcat=1667

thats 15mm:

http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1088&language=1

We will have 2tb soon though.

I'll fill my 500gb up and by then 2tb will be available comfortably.

 

[netBuff]

No. This is for 2.5" 12.5mm drives, they come in smaller storage sizes. 1.5TB is already very expensive, and 2TB [which are 12.5mm in height] are REALLY pricey [more than console].

1,5 TB is very affordable even at a standard 9,5mm height. The HGST Travelstar 5K1500 is available at around $120.

 

[gruenel]

No. This is for 2.5" 12.5mm drives, they come in smaller storage sizes. 1.5TB is already very expensive, and 2TB [which are 12.5mm in height] are REALLY pricey [more than console].

1.5TB drives aren't really expensive here (59€/TB vs. 55€/TB for 1TB drives).

 

[Number45]

Watch the post time, he posted that one while I was still writing mine.

That... doesn't invalidate my response.

I'll fill my 500gb up and by then 2tb will be available comfortably.

Same, although it's a shame they couldn't bump the speed of the default drive. Once it's getting full I'll investigate options, but I'll be looking at a faster drive for sure.

 

[DieH@rd]

/hdd prices

Well that's nice to hear.

 

[R-User!]

That's is the most AMAZING SCREW I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!!

 

[SpasilliumX11]

.

 

[DBT85]

thats 15mm:

http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1088&language=1

We will have 2tb soon though.

I'll fill my 500gb up and by then 2tb will be available comfortably.

Just found that myself, Overclockers say its 12.5mm though. People need to double check before they order anything.

 

[Bowler]

SSd or hybrid performance charts please....

 

[IN&OUT]

Are they goona bust open this PS4?

 

[netBuff]

If you're ordering for launch, it's probably safer to just go with a standard 9,5mm 1,5TB drive - who knows whether the final unit will have enough space for bigger drives (although it seems likely to be the same) as 2TB isn't yet available in that format anyway.

 

[gruenel]

Are they goona bust open this PS4?

I hope so

 

[goonergaz]

There's no "airflow" in the tiny space between the HDD mount and the HDD.

ok then, "breathing space" - I'm just saying I wouldn't assume 12.5mm is ok, it might get overheated and shorten the life of the HDD

 

[Nerix]

Hmm? I know?

Before your edit I thought you asked about it... nvm

Anyone who knows if there are 2TB drives with max. height of 12,5mm?

 

[cebri.one]

Come on, i want to see what's inside.

 

[tipoo]

This is excruciating, is there not a live video stream?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

1,5 TB is very affordable even at a standard 9,5mm height. The HGST Travelstar 5K1500 is available at around $120.

Nice, 99 euro plus shipping.

Three times the capacity, that's interesting.

 

[gruenel]

ok then, "breathing space" - I'm just saying I wouldn't assume 12.5mm is ok, it might get overheated and shorten the life of the HDD

I really doubt those 3mm of empty space would make any temp difference at all. They also wouldn't put a 12.5mm bracket in there if these drives would cause problems.

 

[goonergaz]

I really doubt those 3mm of empty space would make any temp difference at all. They also wouldn't put a 12.5mm bracket in there if these drives would cause problems.

sorry, I assumed the translation meant the gap was 12.5mm rather than bracket "maximum height of 12.5mm in the case" but you're probably right

 

[banjo5150]

Ok now that we know where the HDD is located can someone tel me what is this strange cover near the bottom :

That is where you add more GDDR5 memory via a empty expansion slot!.

 

[goonergaz]

probably to do the the vertical stand

 

[Broman1978]

Yes or NO...can I or cant I use my new 9.5 1TB. HDD I have already bought??

 

[netBuff]

Yes or NO...can I or cant I use my new 9.5 1TB. HDD I have already bought??

You can use any 2,5" drive of a height of up to 9,5mm, maybe also 12,5mm drives.

 

[Pop]

Are they goona bust open this PS4?

Like a Chestburster

 

[gruenel]

You can use any 2,5" drive of a height of up to 9,5mm, maybe also 12,5mm drives.

They just confirmed you can use 12.5mm drives.

 

[tipoo]

Must be taking naps between posts. Why didn't he put up a video feed?

 

[GameAddict411]

Must be taking naps between posts. Why didn't he put up a video feed?

it seems that they want to milk as much as they can.

 

[tehPete]

That is where you add more GDDR5 memory via a empty expansion slot!.

 

[banjo5150]

HaHa nice kinda like that.

 

[dream431ca]

Quick question. Regarding SSDs, does the PS4 support trimming of SSDs?

 

[BloodMoney]

DAT SCREW :O

So good.

 

[tipoo]

Quick question. Regarding SSDs, does the PS4 support trimming of SSDs?

I doubt it, but most modern SSDs support non-TRIM firmware/chipset level garbage collection so it's less of a problem. As long as they're not packed to the brim.

 

[gruenel]

Quick question. Regarding SSDs, does the PS4 support trimming of SSDs?

We don't know.

What we do know is that PS4's OS is based on FreeBSD 9.0, which does support TRIM. So chances are good.

 

[tehPete]

Can't wait to finally see inside the main box I imagine they're having problems cracking the inter-dimensional barrier though around the main hardware; I've seen sci-fi movies, & folding space is the only logical explanation for the size of the thing.

 

[gruenel]

Can't wait to finally see inside the main box I imagine they're having problems cracking the inter-dimensional barrier though around the main hardware; I've seen sci-fi movies, & folding space is the only logical explanation for the size of the thing.

I'm starting to have doubts about whether they'll really disassemble the console :/

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Any recommendations on 7200rpm vs 5400 rpm? How important is cache size?

 

[Nerix]

I will probably get this one, 1,5TB should be fine.

http://www.hgst.com/hard-drives/mobile-drives/9.5mm-mobile-hard-drives/travelstar-5K1500

2TB Western Digital hard drives are too high (15mm) and there are no other 1,5 TB drives.

 

[Vashetti]

I know SATA II is being thrown around, has that actually been confirmed now?

 

[Nymphae]

I'm surprised no one has changed the thread title to reflect the minds blown by the Sony screw.

 

[TheContact]

Wow so easy. I love that screw too, it shows how much attention to detail they have

 

[Chuckpebble]

That would be the best security screw ever if it didn't have the phillips driver bits in the middle of it. Triwing can be fudged sloppily, but the PS screw would be impenetrable.