Would help if the articles were not written by a person who has displayed outstanding bias.
Any article he writes can not be taken at face value, hence rendering almost of no use.
Ok, we'll see how You will count Ryse resolution when game will launch and we will get real shots.
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Thats why Cevat said that it depends of the game and game design what framerate You want to achieve. Whats wrong with that answer?
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Seriously i hope that launch period will end soon and we'll get back to norm, where DF articles were read by people who were interested in technology, not fanboys of the systems...
Good one, I like the implication I don't care about game technology, that's a silly thing to say to someone who you don't know.
You dont and this quote about Shifty is the best example:
"and I don't really care what someone on Beyond3d says. "
I've only heard 30-50% ... Who is saying twice as powerful? That's... Not right.Man making XB1 Exclusive says Consoles aren't that different
Man making PS4 Exclusive says PS4 is twice as powerful
The truth is somewhere in between.
No it wasn't check the link.
He does not have 'outstanding bias' ...
It will be interesting to see what people will say about Leadbetter in his next week article about Killzone: Shadow Fall and Guerrilla Games.
Yeah, Beyond3D is the be all end all of real tech talk.
As soon as diminishing returns comes up you know there some PR to it .
You dont and this quote about Shifty is the best example:
"and I don't really care what someone on Beyond3d says. "
And what is better place?
He does not have 'outstanding bias' ...
It will be interesting to see what people will say about Leadbetter in his next week article about Killzone: Shadow Fall and Guerrilla Games.
And what is better place?
Well... the answer is..... Crytek is currently developing a 1st Party game for Microsoft and not for Sony.Forgive my ignorance but how is more raw GPU power and way better memory bandwidth included in the concept of " diminishing returns of optimizing for these little differences"
He has!He does not have 'outstanding bias' ...
.You can tell its a Leadbetter article he tries to degrade PS4's CPU repeatedly in the article
Leadbetter is fine when he's actually looking at technical details with a game in front of him. It's his close connection to Microsoft that is skewing his recent articles. I wouldn't exactly say bias but he's getting a lot of info directly from MS and not much from Sony.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Aww.
Look you obviously don't care, because look I can post a link to the Beyond3D forums like so, http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1793805&postcount=4412, and you'd dare to dismiss it and engage in independent thought processes unbecoming of someone who cares.As a games programmer, I can safely say I care about game technology, I hope that ends the discussion and your baseless personal attacks, you really shouldn't get so riled up just because someone says something bad about Crytek.
As a games programmer, I can safely say I care about game technology, I hope that ends the discussion and your baseless personal attacks, you really shouldn't get so riled up just because someone says something bad about Crytek.
No tht egames and console talk section of Beyond 3d. The alogrithm and hardware place of the forum is not inhabited by those who have console warrior beliefs.
The DGPU rumor was actually entertained on Beyond3d by waay too many people (in the console forum that is). Makes you wonder about some credibility there.
Leadbetter is fine when he's actually looking at technical details with a game in front of him. It's his close connection to Microsoft that is skewing his recent articles. I wouldn't exactly say bias but he's getting a lot of info directly from MS and not much from Sony.
The internet. Treating B3D as gospel is a bit silly, especially considering how it went downhill and is laced with random people posting random stuff.
Yes, the Developer has no reason to lie what so ever, his game certainly doesn't depend on the XB1 sales or anything like that.
Full HD XP
I know it's just you again, Salvor Hardin, but: We're not talking about some boxers here, where you can "guess" which one is stronger and better.I guess gaf analysts must know better.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
You can tell its a Leadbetter article he tries to degrade PS4's CPU repeatedly in the article
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
I don't think that we will see a difference between PS4 and XBO before 2014. It takes time to exhaust new consoles.
He got more tech inside articles about Sony than Microsoft in DF site history. He made two interviews with Cerny. And he just came back from Guerrilla Games.
He also praised ND and SSM tech a lot in their articles through the past generation. So, where is that bias?
Oh, you mean a dev who's working on an exclusive XB1 game? Or when EA said it, when they have an exclusive publishing deal with XB1?So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
Tell us more about the 1st Party Crytek game for the PS4. Oh, they don't have one and are currently just developing a 1st Party MS game? I see...
Nope. And i can think of dozens examples of diminishing returns in games that can blur difference quality between two platforms.
Shadow rendering resolution
Shadow rendering every 4 frames, not every 3 frames
Motion Blur and Depth of Field Quality
SSR quality
Cubemaps quality
Shading quality
Lower particles count
Lack of motion blur on particles
etc, etc
Devs can change tons of stuff people would not normally notice to preserve similar quality and thats what he was talking about.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
It's going to be fun reading the comparison articles on multiplat games in a few weeks.
Not shocking, if you look at some RYSE footage.They've put idea for Kingdoms Project to both Sony and Microsoft. Sony turn them down, Microsoft not.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
btw, you just disqualified yourself with that comment.Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
So some of the biggest devs in the business are saying that there won't much of a difference between the multiplats.
I guess gaf analysts must know better.
Remember when the PS3 was going to be like a generation leap over the 360? lol.
Not shocking, if you look at some RYSE footage.
edit. Animation, a lot of QTE's etc.
But maybe it's just me.
Crytek did the same on 360 and PS3 and if optimizing is the difference between 1080p and 900p i don't see that as diminishing returns .
Yes, because Crytek thinks that by falsely equating the two machines on a Eurogamer article, Ryse sales will double what they would have been otherwise.
There is now little doubt there's a major power difference between the machines, that should be clear from specs alone. The only ones who say otherwise, are those in the Microsoft camp, or those who come out with non-commital comments like games being "similar".So another developer thinks that there isn't a big difference in power between the two machines. Interesting.
Both next-gen platforms have excellent specs and provide wins against each other in a variety of areas.
ESRAM is going to hurt two things out of the gate: anti aliasing and resolution.It's unfortunate the Crytek interview has very little new technical insight. The only answer that seemed new was that Ryse is using a SMAA T1x anti-aliasing solution. It's disappointing that the AA is only one sample as I was hoping for SMAA T2x or SMAA 4x, but Ryse is a launch game so hopefully we will see better AA later in the generation.
Let's hope the upcoming interview with Guerrilla Games is more insightful.
You've narrowed it down. Thanks.
In what areas Xbox One wins against PS4?
There's the CPU (6% better I think), and...?
It's unfortunate the Crytek interview has very little new technical insight. The only answer that seemed new was that Ryse is using a SMAA T1x anti-aliasing solution. It's disappointing that the AA is only one sample as I was hoping for SMAA T2x or SMAA 4x, but Ryse is a launch game so hopefully we will see better AA later in the generation.
Let's hope the upcoming interview with Guerrilla Games is more insightful.