Do we have a confirmation of PS4's CPU frequency? or just initial leak of 800 MHz?In what areas Xbox One wins against PS4?
There's the CPU (6% better I think), and...?
Do we have a confirmation of PS4's CPU frequency? or just initial leak of 800 MHz?In what areas Xbox One wins against PS4?
There's the CPU (6% better I think), and...?
Like weeds.The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
The XB1 has the advantage ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any)
It might be the same model but the cutscene the player just watched and what they're now playing doesn't have the same image quality. Dropping resolution flies in the face of a seamless transition.
What matters is which version is better, that amounts to a lot more than resolution. So if the real question is how many of the launch games on PS4 will win DF's face-off, every single one of them is my guess.If you've read enough analysis then you might be able to provide me an informed guestimate and we can compare numbers at a later date.
I'm going to go with 2 games of all the launch multiplats.
The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
The proof is in the pudding - how many multiplat launch games of all the multiplat launch games will have a better resolution on the PS4?
If you've read enough analysis then you might be able to provide me an informed guestimate and we can compare numbers at a later date.
I'm going to go with 2 games of all the launch multiplats.
I agree that games won't be broken but the spec difference is still big enough for differences to be considerably larger than current gen.The difference here is that I accept that I do not know the nuances of game development and programming so I'm going to defer my opinion to some of the most reputable game development teams in the industry.
And I'll most certainly be proven right. There probably won't be any significant multiplat differences down the line once console hardware is better understood. It will probably be a rehash of the PS3/360 divide, but with less broken games.
The difference here is that I accept that I do not know the nuances of game development and programming so I'm going to defer my opinion to some of the most reputable game development teams in the industry.
And I'll most certainly be proven right. There probably won't be any significant multiplat differences down the line once console hardware is better understood. It will probably be a rehash of the PS3/360 divide, but with less broken games.
What matters is which version is better, that amounts to a lot more than resolution. So if the real question is how many of the launch games on PS4 will win DF's face-off, every single one of them is my guess.
CoD, BF, ACIV and NFS would be my guess, which is essentially all of the non-sports games.
Wait a minute, he said xbone has some hardware advantages over the ps4? Lol, stay classy Yerli, stay classy.Cevat Yerli: Both next-gen platforms have excellent specs and provide wins against each other in a variety of areas. But, in essence, both of them are going to run next-generation games in more or less the same quality due to the diminishing returns of optimising for these little differences. That being said, platform-exclusive titles might be able to take advantage of these slight variations on both Xbox One and PlayStation 4.
It would be preposterous to discount the technical analysis conducted by Crytek, Mikami's team, and Carmack that led to the conclusions that they reached. They have far more experience in actual development than a lot of the intelligent and articulate individuals who have shared their views.
Hahahahaha oh man.....The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
Are you suggesting 720p versus 740p would be significant? That's a different resolution, which I certainly wouldn't call significant.Then we go back to the definition of significant difference and it looks like you're going to settle for 'a difference'
I was wondering where TheKayle went.The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
Then we go back to the definition of significant difference and it looks like you're going to settle for 'a difference'
And what is better place?
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Nope. And i can think of dozens examples of diminishing returns in games that can blur difference quality between two platforms.
Shadow rendering resolution
Shadow rendering every 4 frames, not every 3 frames
Motion Blur and Depth of Field Quality
SSR quality
Cubemaps quality
Shading quality
Lower particles count
Lack of motion blur on particles
etc, etc
Devs can change tons of stuff people would not normally notice to preserve similar quality and thats what he was talking about.
The proof is in the pudding - how many multiplat launch games of all the multiplat launch games will have a better resolution on the PS4?
If you've read enough analysis then you might be able to provide me an informed guestimate and we can compare numbers at a later date.
I'm going to go with 2 games of all the launch multiplats.
The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
Jeez, he has had the courage to ask even this thing? I mean, he has almost completely ignored the audio processing during the ps360 generation now it's that important? Crazy days for Leadbetter, really crazy days.Digital Foundry: The Xbox One has dedicated audio processing hardware that is not present in PS4 or PC. How do you utilise it in Ryse?
The XB1 has the advantage in CPU, Audio Processing, ESRAM (PS4 doesn't even have any), and Cloud Processing while PS4 might have an edge in GPU according to some people.
Four is better than One
Then we go back to the definition of significant difference and it looks like you're going to settle for 'a difference'
ACIV and NFS? I don't see that happening at all. In fact, didn't someone from EA comment on the differences saying that they would be minimal, but one might be slightly better?
You're not even being genuine here. Of the games where we know the resolution of both versions, and there are only a few, almost all are higher on ps4. What pudding are you asking us to taste? You know it's not on the table.
There are going to be HUGE differences between the multiplat games at launch and unlike the PS3/360 its not a case of one system being a alien architecture but a combination of difficulty of development plus a weaker system. How can you believe they will be minimal if anything the differences will grow.
Excuse me but I thought ps4 also has dedicated audio hardware yet the article says it does not. What is going on?
Could you list the ones that are confirmed to be different?
HUGE differences for launch multiplats? lol I'll be happy to eat crow if that happens.
HUGE differences for launch multiplats? lol I'll be happy to eat crow if that happens.
Could you list the ones that are confirmed to be different?
Bruce knows his shit. He's stating something he knows to be fact, not conjecture.HUGE differences for launch multiplats? lol I'll be happy to eat crow if that happens.
I hope your hungry man.
Bruce knows his shit. He's stating something he knows to be fact, not conjecture.
You missed my edit haha
Personally I think the new cutscenes are 900p. when you compare the old(http://i1.minus.com/i6bIl6rugRnpQ.jpg) with the new (http://i2.minus.com/iUNi68nr9Pst8.jpg), the old shot is definitely sharper but they've improved the visuals so much its hard to tell.Well I don't know. They keep defending their 900p design choice by stating that you won't see a difference anyway.
The thing is, even very recent shots of Ryse (cutscenes) are definitely 1080p native. The question is why.
What.
Seriously, what?
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Well obviously because it doesn't!
Or he forgot about his own interview with Cerny, I guess.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-to-face-with-mark-cerny
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
Let me break it down in layman's terms so more people can understand what they can expect with these two systems. Let's say the PS4 is the fat kid in school standing on the center of a seesaw all by his lonesome trying to get both sides to stay off the ground. Sure, no one denies he's the strongest kid in the class but he's also a bully so he's often left doing this sort of thing on his own. And that extra weight makes it harder to maneuver in tight spots so the planks just keep slamming to the ground one one side or the other. On the other hand, you got XB1 which is more like a group of four popular buddies who play well together and get all the girls. Their even number allows them to stand on the ends of the very same seesaw, two by two, and balance it off the ground for as long as they like in perfect harmony.
MS needs to use this for the next pr campaign.
Should GAF put Leadbetter in the same category as Gies, because that was a blatant lie.