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New Xbox One Rumors: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ES RAM life long bottleneck
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You can't just say since he doesn't know, and anything is possible.
In the entertainment industry, we have licenses and rights clearances for legal departments. Either you blur/remove/distort any association with the legal ip, if you don't have clearance to use it. Same as trailers, for feature films, if we aren't clear on a product, we remove it or blur it, then legal approves its depiction, or lack of it. We are talking Mercedes, Ford, Netflix, HBO, Coca Cola, Google, Apple, everyone abides by this, and their products.
You're making up a really specific sort of scenario, where content publishers are forcing Microsoft to not show anything, or distort their products (As they are done daily in film,tv,everything), it would be a very specific scenario, specifically for the Xbone.
Based on years of legal and rights clearances, dare I say decades, its very safe to assume that unless its a first of its kind... that every single IP/Advertising/Everyone will not allow microsoft to show off their consoles GUI, its bullshit spin, as its been since the announcement of the console. I can measure the level of 180's from MS, double speak, and back pedaling, to factor that into their Credit/Trust/Honor rating. You have to do the same when coming to an intellectual conclusion, or you're being bias to not allow their specific track record in regards to the Xbone.
Metalmurphy
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Gaikai was never ever meant to be released with the PS4. It's a separate service on it's own.
Snapping was never a PS4 feature, suspend/resume was.
Driveclub is a game being developed on it's own, nothing to do with PS4.
I guess we don't want your site banned anymore. Check back next week though. =)
How did you possibly make that leap?
SwiftDeath
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MS OS WILL be fixed make no mistake. Hell 99% of all major issues may in fact be worked out by launch. I doubt it based on what we've heard but MS will get their act together. Question is how long that will take?
There is hardly any craziness around the PS4.
You made all kinds of crazy exaggerations in this post.
Nobody suggested this console will launch without a working OS. They're suggesting that certain aspects of the OS are causing games to crash.
Nobody made a "narrative" that these problems (which are numerous) "cannot be fixed." Several of the problems do appear to be deeper than what can be fixed within a month though.
I actually agree 100%. It would be a massive financial and logistic effort at this point to delay the XBONE. AT MINIMUM MS would have to essentially recall units (as they are probably less than a week away from shipment if not already), and eat return shipping on what was the estimate? 2-3M units? Not to mention having essentially received $0 return on tens of millions invested in advertising, supply chain logistics, manufacturing, etc.
I honestly can't see how MS could delay xbone right now without it essentially killing the division. Plain and simple. (and when I mean delaying, I don't mean a few days or weeks but a reasonable time it would take to provide fixes or workarounds to all of the issues that have surfaced in tweets and leaks)
Appollowexx
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So I fell asleep on the sofa... and woke up to this thread.
What exactly is going on? What is this article going up soon?
Someone catch me up.
What exactly is going on? What is this article going up soon?
Someone catch me up.
gaf > games
TheJollyCorner
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That's what I figured. :/
For the sake of all of the designers/techs working their asses off to get this thing ready for 11/22, I hope they succeed. Jobs will likely be lost if they don't, sadly.
Woffls
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Oh man, this is gonna' blow the fuck up in the next 8 hours isn't it? Not sure I will get much sleep tonight but screw it, this is where it gets legitimately interesting.
Unfortunately I'm looking forward to seeing how all this pans out more than I am actually playing any next gen games. It could be another turning point for the next decade.
Unfortunately I'm looking forward to seeing how all this pans out more than I am actually playing any next gen games. It could be another turning point for the next decade.
From the lots going on part.
As for AC4, media got to play PS3, PS4 and 360 versions.
the issues at hand in these threads have very little, if anything, to do with game resolution. they are OS level problems that MS needs to crunch on and fix.
They got a little under 4 weeks.
Pop
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Wrong! Try again
We knew Gaikai wasn't coming this year and suspend/resume won't be there Day 1 not UI snapping. Driveclub is unfortunate but I respect their decision, cause the latest build looks insane.
What? Is this for real? 360 but no One?
SneakySneaks
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Probably wont get any worse, but having it be confirmed and released by the press would be really bad for Microsoft.
The OS will work, but what is hinted is that some features could be unstable at release. No one can understand the full severity of these bugs or what amount of man-hours would be needed to resolve them. Only Microsoft knows. What scares us is that some of those unstable features seem to be critical ones (Online/Matchmaking specially), but perhaps the silver lining could be that those would be the priority ones to get resolved.
It didn't stop them from posting multiple false rumors in the past.
Thats quite a leap.
Miles Quaritch
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Do the sensible thing and buy both in 2015. Past launches should be evidence enough that buying at launch is a fools errand and I say this as someone who has been buying consoles at launch going all the way back to the MegaDrive/Game Gear.
It's just not worth the stress and hassle any more.
I work in advertising and marketing and you are right. If the logos have been seen in interviews, on demo booths at E3 etc, then there is no reason why they cant show them on a live demo of the ui.
The only thing i can think of that they might not be able to do is say show how the hulu app works unless hulu have given permission as it might not be ready to show or features might be missing etc.
Showing logos is not a valid reason not to show the ui. The logos can be seen on stills and marketing material so its just BS
In a system that is being touted as the epitome of balance, I don't believe dem secret lazy devs for a second.
The 360 version comes out tomorrow. I don't know how they can't let someone review it.
SwiftDeath
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Good summary of prior information
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87786946#post87786946
Yes for Europe, maybe things are handled differently by Ubi in the US (doubt it, though). Reviews go up in less than 10 hours, 30 minutes anyway.
These threads just keep coming. Never thought stuff like this that were touted by microsoft as a key features of the X1 at its first unveiling would end up being such a mess.
Well that is if those rumors are true and that seems to be the case since no one is defusing these damaging rumors. It just keeps coming and getting worse.
Well that is if those rumors are true and that seems to be the case since no one is defusing these damaging rumors. It just keeps coming and getting worse.
Meus Renaissance
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We are three weeks from launch. Microsoft has a plethora of software engineers at their disposals. I have little doubt that these issues will be resolved by launch otherwise you have a half-baked product that cannot do its function; play games.
wow if true
No matter what the Xbox One will be sold out into early 2014 in most territories.
I feel like they could realistically launch with buggy software and incomplete features and be largely forgiven as long as they get it to work by the end of January. That's a lot of time to fix things.
I feel like they could realistically launch with buggy software and incomplete features and be largely forgiven as long as they get it to work by the end of January. That's a lot of time to fix things.
Sword Of Doom
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"You guys have got to be patient. Lots going on." implies, at least to me, that there are a lot more things we don't know about going on and we have to be patient about it.
Pop
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Relaxed Muscle
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Dude...
You can't stop thinking that something very bad is happening in the background with Xbox One.
InsaneElite
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Not sure if this was posted yet, despite being a day old, I found nothing in a search. Just more on the next-gen OSes and Smartglass being a wreck.
I'm not sure how a bunch of bad XBO news makes you want to cancel your PS4.
Viruz
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To be fair, "journos" have access to any hardware/software before consumers. They never talk, and if/when "everything is waaaaaaaah".
This is not about INVESTIGATION, just honesty.
Tell it like it is.
xaosslug
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lol, there is no 'craziness surrounding' the PS4, at least not as far as I've seen/heard.
Was mentioned on Twitter the other night we won't see any XO reviews at all before the 12th.
And removing the whole trademark? Do you understand what i am saying here? Not just blur, but removing the whole logo. So there is only a green emtpy box where it used to say "Hulu" or "Mountain Dew"?
Surely a company that specializes in software and operating system can do that on a whim and make their OS video and not piss off anyone.
Thus the issue for no videos is not trademarks.
Lagspike_exe
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Getting beaten by Sony in online services, out of all things, must hurt MS the most.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Not sure if this was posted yet, despite being a day old, I found nothing in a search. Just more on the next-gen OSes and Smartglass being a wreck.
PS4 OS is crash city? Oh god no.
You say this, but if PS4's OS gets any changes or fixes of something that doesn't work quite as they intended then it's in no way different than getting an Xbox one on launch and a certain feature not working as intended and fixed later. By how you want to define beta testing a console(you're not and it's a silly thing to say), you're doing the same thing with the ps4 preorder you chose to hold on to.
Appollowexx
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Ooh thanks I'd read most of that earlier, but that Tales and Dragon Quest PS4 news is exciting and a nice change of pace from all these shady hardware issues.
Next gen JRPG's
NullPointer
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Ironic, considering. Wasn't it the PS4 AC4 onstage demo that crashed during the e3 presentation?
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