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I play from 30ft away, that picture looks clear as day to me.
This is why I have such a problem with a large number of the industry people on this site. They only stick to threads that concern their occupation and they are only there from a PR standpoint. I feel that having members that are entirely PR is not needed for this forum. People like Albert can stick to twitter.
This is why I have such a problem with a large number of the industry people on this site. They only stick to threads that concern their occupation and they are only there from a PR standpoint. I feel that having members that are entirely PR is not needed for this forum. People like Albert can stick to twitter.
To be fair to Tim Dog (can't believe I'm typing this) he was actual quite fair and 'balanced' in that twitter feed with Aaron Greenberg
He admitted that 1080p native is strictly better than 720p and admitted his disappointment at the XB1 failings in that regard as it were
I almost feel sorry for him as you can see the weight this year must have had on him and he just seems defeated at this point
I'll be back. You're right, I should talk about it.
The reality is, if he can't talk about such things, he never should have waded into such discussions to begin with and tried to downplay the potential differences. That goes in general for Microsoft's messaging; stick to your system's strengths - specs isn't one of them.You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.
Didn't Nintendo claim the same garbage about the N64? Don't think anyone is innocent in overstating the power of their yet to launch consoles. Microsoft has just been fucking hilarious about it with the Xbone so far because its so obvious they're full of shit.
I don't think the mods should take a back seat anymore with this issue. We let it run its course but that time is done I think.
I'm in now way say his job is easy but for him to talk out his ass or outright lie is stupid and then for him to come here and attempt to peddle his bullshit double speak well sophomoric doesn't even begin to describe.
This is what Nintendo was promising for "Project Reality"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1z9HmDuYgs
This is what Nintendo was promising for "Project Reality"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1z9HmDuYgs
The reality is, if he can't talk about such things, he never should have waded into such discussions to begin with and tried to downplay the potential differences. That goes in general for Microsoft's messaging; stick to your system's strengths - specs isn't one of them.
Just ignore his posts if you're that offended, for Chrissakes. Is it really that terrible to get some involvement from platform holders here, even if you don't like what they have to say?This is why I have such a problem with a large number of the industry people on this site. They only stick to threads that concern their occupation and they are only there from a PR standpoint. I feel that having members that are entirely PR is not needed for this forum. People like Albert can stick to twitter.
I'm Oil Pulling with Coconut Oil and I've almost done my 20mins but you almost made me spit all that shit out on my laptop...lolol.
What I'm say is him and the other MS spin doctors are just continuing to compound the damage by opening their mouth in the first place, saying nothing is infinitely better them coming out with Tales from their ass and then getting caught in their own double speak and untruths.But cant he keep up the lie ( if its a legit lie that he didn't know about it) forever?
He lied about telling the truth, if he is telling the truth what more can he do to prove it?
Wont people just continue to call them lies? I understand that it hurts their image as a whole, but cant they just say that he didn't know about it and never speak of it again... Seems like theres no real way out.
Im not defending, I'm talking rationally.
The reality is, if he can't talk about such things, he never should have waded into such discussions to begin with and tried to downplay the potential differences. That goes in general for Microsoft's messaging; stick to your system's strengths - specs isn't one of them.
This is why I have such a problem with a large number of the industry people on this site. They only stick to threads that concern their occupation and they are only there from a PR standpoint. I feel that having members that are entirely PR is not needed for this forum. People like Albert can stick to twitter.
Once again Albert, thanks again for sticking around even when you are not appreciated by most.
You seem like a good sport under extraordinary circumstances. I've seen a lot of launches but the "new" internet and twitter has changed things drastically...it's crazy what people expect these days, demand even.
Albert p said:I will ask two questions of the detractors, honest questions.
1. What piece of information would you want that I could provide that would convince you there is not a huge delta in performance?
2. If it comes out after we launch that the difference between 3rd party games is maybe single-digit FPS between the two platforms, will I get an apology or concession?
Once again Albert, thanks again for sticking around even when you are not appreciated by most.
You seem like a good sport under extraordinary circumstances. I've seen a lot of launches but the "new" internet and twitter has changed things drastically...it's crazy what people expect these days, demand even.
It was more fun in the old days when we waited and found things out on our own or in little trickles or as we actually experienced the machines and decided our opinions with our own eyes.
Tell me where on this site they could comment and it wouldn't go to complete shit as soon as they did. They're stuck unless they want to go to the OT.
The only one I've seen contribute on a regular basis is the creator of 5th Cell.
yea, it's TOTALLY crazy what people demand these days
What I'm say is him and the other MS spin doctors are just continuing to compound the damage by opening their mouth in the first place, saying nothing is infinitely better them coming out with Tales from their ass and then getting caught in their own double speak and untruths.
Just ignore his posts if you're that offended, for Chrissakes. Is it really that terrible to get some involvement from platform holders here, even if you don't like what they have to say?
Some of the posts on these last couple pages ...
Once again Albert, thanks again for sticking around even when you are not appreciated by most.
You seem like a good sport under extraordinary circumstances. I've seen a lot of launches but the "new" internet and twitter has changed things drastically...it's crazy what people expect these days, demand even.
It was more fun in the old days when we waited and found things out on our own or in little trickles or as we actually experienced the machines and decided our opinions with our own eyes when we got the machines home..
What an absolutely shocking turn of events. Klocker enters the fray to defend the FUD posts by an employee of his console manufacturer of choice. Do they pay you for this shit? I can't think of any other reason someone would defend the absolute misinformation that we've been fed from day one. Unless you're actually a sentient mushroom, in which case you'd love being kept in the dark and fed shit.Once again Albert, thanks again for sticking around even when you are not appreciated by most.
You seem like a good sport under extraordinary circumstances. I've seen a lot of launches but the "new" internet and twitter has changed things drastically...it's crazy what people expect these days, demand even.
It was more fun in the old days when we waited and found things out on our own or in little trickles or as we actually experienced the machines and decided our opinions with our own eyes when we got the machines home..
Have you seen CoD? I'm not exaggerating when I say it's almost indistinguishable from MW2.
you think we are stupid?
With that reasoning 360 and xb1 are equivalent as both had cod at 60fps.
That 60fps is there as ps4 doubling your resolution requires four times as many pixels to be updated per frame. So, as a rough estimate, by decreasing your resolution for a factor 1/f, your framerate can increase up to f².
I share your sentiment for the most part. Albert's got thick skin and I'm sure he's a stand up guy when not on duty. I feel nostalgic about older times with you, but it was because the circumstances were so different back then that they were simpler.
Are you sure he said that? Maybe we're just misremembering it...But I thought he wasn't a PR guy?
First, people should understand I dont always know every detail happening with the program. Even though I run Product Planning (I'm not in PR!), that means we set the stage early for the features and HW, but a lot happens going through the development process. I stay very close as we approach launch, but I dont always know the specifics when things change, so sometimes (frequently) I have to ask someone on the team. I also dont run PR or Marketing, so I dont see every piece of material that makes it to the public. In this case, there was an inconsistency between some small print on Xbox.com, and what I understood was happening so I went to get more details.
Yes, I know. I was just saying it was awfully close to what really happens. It happened twice at TGS, actually. It gets frustrating.
Despite what everyone would love to believe, I'm not in PR, but I have been helping do demos - and I'll probably be on the road more before launch. If I *was* in PR, I'd probably do a better job watching what I say.
I don't work in Microsoft PR. I'm not sure why that's there, and I can't change it.
I do work at Microsoft, however.
I Given the rumored specs for both systems, can anyone conceive of a circumstance or decision one platform holder could make, where despite the theoretical performance benchmarks of the components, the box that appears “weaker” could actually be more powerful?
But I thought he wasn't a PR guy?
I share your sentiment for the most part. Albert's got thick skin and I'm sure he's a stand up guy when not on duty. I feel nostalgic about older times with you, but it was because the circumstances were so different back then that they were simpler.
Once again Albert, thanks again for sticking around even when you are not appreciated by most.
You seem like a good sport under extraordinary circumstances. I've seen a lot of launches but the "new" internet and twitter has changed things drastically...it's crazy what people expect these days, demand even.
It was more fun in the old days when we waited and found things out on our own or in little trickles or as we actually experienced the machines and decided our opinions with our own eyes when we got the machines home..
Are you sure he said that? Maybe we're just misremembering it...
He's clearly not PR, so I wonder why he can't explain why all the stuff he told us about his own product turned out to be bullshit.
Not true. Ps2 delivered a huge number of 60 fps games many of which were the most impressive looking games on the system. They certainly weren't limited to 240p.Yeah and the PS2 could run the game at 60fps if you made it 240p with no effects of any kind. Doesn't mean there isn't a huge delta in performance.
Sheesh MS employees sure are good at being unlikeable. That hubris and stubbornness from the majority of their front facing people.
Hey Albert if you're still there. What exactly did you mean when you said this (way back when)?
Given the rumored specs for both systems, can anyone conceive of a circumstance or decision one platform holder could make, where despite the theoretical performance benchmarks of the components, the box that appears weaker could actually be more powerful?
But I thought he wasn't a PR guy?
No I didn't.You read Kagari's post wrong.
What an absolutely shocking turn of events. Klocker enters the fray to defend the FUD posts by an employee of his console manufacturer of choice. Do they pay you for this shit? I can't think of any other reason someone would defend the absolute misinformation that we've been fed from day one. Unless you're actually a sentient mushroom, in which case you'd love being kept in the dark and fed shit.
Hey Albert if you're still there. What exactly did you mean when you said this (way back when)?
No I didn't.
Just pointing out how full of shit the guy is.
Sorry, if my sarcasm didn't come through in my post.
That's why many try to stay anonymous so they can speak openly.
Couple that with how hard it is to distinguish between posts filled with wishful thinking/mental gymnastics and sarcasm, and it really becomes difficult to know what to thinkIt's late. Carry on.