Xboxone Resolutiongate (Eurogamer)

nib95

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I have a feeling we are going to get more 720p revelations next week.

Why wouldn't he copy Major's "we've provided a console that can do 1080p, developers can choose."? This response sounds even more desperate like "everything's 1080p if you just believe it's 1080p."
Yeap. Pretty confident more 720p madness is on the way.
 

sleeprockss

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That guy is just making a sensationalist article.
They showed a trailer that was PC footage.
Then they went on to stream like an hour of live Xbox One footage
Just look at that guy's twitter. He has nothing better to do than shit all over the xbox one.
 

Wille517

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I kinda fell like calling it Resolutiongate and blowing it up to the proportions of a scandal or conspiracy is hyperbole at best, but that comment about everything being output @ 1080p for fucks sake could that guy try and make a statement more intellectually insulting/dishonest
 

SwiftDeath

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Still better than Albert p.
Albert isn't that bad
unless you're talking about specs or power than he's pretty bad

He should stick to OS, UI, Kinect etc.

Both version 1080p
Thanks have framerates been confirmed? Would be hilarious if XB1 got a 30fps madden like PS3 did with 08

Not that I would wish it on my XB brethen just would be all ironical and such
 

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I predict resolution diferences between ACIV and NFS Rivals

Has anything been confirmed on Madden yet?
I'd be surprised if any of the sports games were anything other than 1080p/60fps on either console. Those seem to be the genres that are "easiest" to hit that target as far as retail games go. Sony even had The Show at native 1080p on the PS3.
 

beast786

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Eh... debatable.

Here is Albert to Gaf

Albert p said:
I will ask two questions of the detractors, honest questions.

1. What piece of information would you want that I could provide that would convince you there is not a huge delta in performance?
2. If it comes out after we launch that the difference between 3rd party games is maybe single-digit FPS between the two platforms, will I get an apology or concession?
Shocking to see him disappear . What are the chance his mighty will presence us with an apology or concession.
 

RoboPlato

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Has Major Nelson said anything about this yet?
Here is Albert to Gaf



Shocking to see him disappear . What are the chance his mighty will presence us with an apology or concession.
Oh wow. I never knew he had demanded an apology. That's amazing in retrospect.
 

TAJ

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SwiftDeath

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you know its gotten bad when mods start going all in too. :\
Kagari is still logical and just tells it like it is

Kev now kev is the one to watch. His posts on this sort of thing are hilarious. Still love that subway one

This is the reason I joined GAF. That whole DRM thing was going down and so many sites were nonchalant about it all. I googled xbox one drm terrible and GAF came up as the first result. Started reading the threads, then Cboat made an appearance lol. This place is what gaming journalism should be like, take no prisoners.
Funny that is the exact reason I joined Gaf as well. Everywhere else just seemed to play the DRM like it was nothing and I disagreed
 

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This is the reason I joined GAF. That whole DRM thing was going down and so many sites were nonchalant about it all. I googled xbox one drm terrible and GAF came up as the first result. Started reading the threads, then Cboat made an appearance lol. This place is what gaming journalism should be like, take no prisoners.
 

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Has Major Nelson said anything about this yet?

Oh wow. I never knew he had demanded an apology. That's amazing in retrospect.
Yeah it's been mentioned several times, the fact that he had the gall to ask for an apology when he's the one trying to sell us a product is beyond astonishing. He needs to man up to what he said or never show his face again.

To be fair he's talking about FPS in that quote, and haven't the two systems been pretty comparable framerate wise?
He used fps as an example of performance/power, not the sole metric.
 

BigDug13

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Here is Albert to Gaf



Shocking to see him disappear . What are the chance his mighty will presence us with an apology or concession.
Yeah but he specified FPS, not resolution. So basically if the XBO can run a 720p game at 51fps and PS4 runs the same game at 1080p and 60fps, he is accurate in saying the XBO has single digit framerate difference.
 

Night Angel

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To be fair he's talking about FPS in that quote, and haven't the two systems been pretty comparable framerate wise?
No. Stahp. Please.
He implied that the performance would be the same. Look up disingenuous.

Yeah, Albert. Snark is really gonna help. Smdh
 

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They told you to get a second job to afford it.
They said they hoped you thought PS3 was worth working hard and saving up for.

I kinda fell like calling it Resolutiongate and blowing it up to the proportions of a scandal or conspiracy is hyperbole at best, but that comment about everything being output @ 1080p for fucks sake could that guy try and make a statement more intellectually insulting/dishonest
It's actually an apt name for the controversy, because the problem isn't just the power difference. The biggest sins all involve the cover up. They could have simply accepted that they were at a performance disadvantage, but instead we've had months of Penello, et al filling the internet with FUD, misinformation and deceptive claims.
 

Wille517

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This is the reason I joined GAF. That whole DRM thing was going down and so many sites were nonchalant about it all. I googled xbox one drm terrible and GAF came up as the first result. Started reading the threads, then Cboat made an appearance lol. This place is what gaming journalism should be like, take no prisoners.
Same way I got here, and to your point GAF and other communities like it are why game "journalism" is and will slowly decline with exceptions like IGN who dick ride dev's and console creators for exclusive footage and interviews private forums full of "hardcore" gamers passionate about our hobby will replace most gaming news outlets.
 

Jomjom

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To be fair he's talking about FPS in that quote, and haven't the two systems been pretty comparable framerate wise?
Yeah and the PS2 could run the game at 60fps if you made it 240p with no effects of any kind. Doesn't mean there isn't a huge delta in performance.

Sheesh MS employees sure are good at being unlikeable. That hubris and stubbornness from the majority of their front facing people.
 

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To be fair he's talking about FPS in that quote, and haven't the two systems been pretty comparable framerate wise?
No, not at the same graphical levels and image quality. Not.at.all.

Even at a substantially higher resolution the ps4 manages to pull a higher frame rate in Battlefield 4. And that's before AO is implemented in the Xbox version, which will come with its own performance penalty.
 

beast786

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To be fair he's talking about FPS in that quote, and haven't the two systems been pretty comparable framerate wise?
you think we are stupid?

With that reasoning 360 and xb1 are equivalent as both had cod at 60fps.

That 60fps is there as ps4 doubling your resolution requires four times as many pixels to be updated per frame. So, as a rough estimate, by decreasing your resolution for a factor 1/f, your framerate can increase up to f².
 

Wille517

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I don't think the mods should take a back seat anymore with this issue. We let it run its course but that time is done I think.
I know I'm new hear but I emphatically agree if regular posters are going to get called out/ banned for bullshit Industry Insiders should be held tot he same if not higher standards.
 

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Yeah and the PS2 could run the game at 60fps if you made it 240p with no effects of any kind. Doesn't mean there isn't a huge delta in performance.
No, not at the same graphical levels and image quality. Not.at.all.

Even at a substantially higher resolution the ps4 manages to pull a higher frame rate in Battlefield 4. And that's before AO is implemented in the Xbox version, which will come with its own performance penalty.
Good points, also I forgot there were some framerate differences in BF4.

I wonder if he specifically didn't get into resolution differences because he knew what was coming.
 

Neutralfanboy

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What more information needs to come out? Are you waiting for games like Madden to come out at the same resolution and FPS as the PS4 version and then claim parity?
 

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This is the reason I joined GAF. That whole DRM thing was going down and so many sites were nonchalant about it all. I googled xbox one drm terrible and GAF came up as the first result. Started reading the threads, then Cboat made an appearance lol. This place is what gaming journalism should be like, take no prisoners.
I came for the news, I stayed for the gifs