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[Gaz_RB]

so. deleted the game.

35 hours played, from which 34 were walking around getting stuff, just so you can get killed from someone you didnt even see..

I mean it's fine that you don't get the game, but I feel like you aren't even making an attempt. Have you done some research online for some tips and stuff? Also, there is a link to a mumble server in the OP that has a lot of helpful, friendly gaffers in it almost 24/7 that will definitely help you get your bearings and group up with you. But I don't think it's necessary to enjoy the game. I played the mod (100+hours) and about 40 hours of the standalone solo. You have to be very careful, and you will die, but that's sort of the point of the game.

I just can't believe you could play the game for 35 hours and not figure it out unless you weren't putting any effort into it. It's not exactly an intuitive game, but it's not Rocket science.

 

[Randam]

I stand corrected.
To answer your questions: if you buy a game in steam and choose the "this is a gift" option at check out you'll get the option to claim a tradable version if the game, which shows up in your steam inventory.

Concerning day z, the best advice for a new player is to get off the coast ASAP. Seriously, don't even worry about looting the houses near your spawn unless they are directly on your way out of town and still make it quick.

You don't really need military equipment that badly. The only things you really need to survive are a some brown/green clothes a backpack, a good axe, medical supplies a water pump and some food.

Guns are cool and good for shooting people, but being fully loaded with military gear just makes you a bigger target for KOS.

so all those people in the steam trading thread bought games as gifts, but dont have someone to give it to yet?

why?


and what do you do in away from the coast and with out guns?

I mean it's fine that you don't get the game, but I feel like you aren't even making an attempt. Have you done some research online for some tips and stuff? Also, there is a link to a mumble server in the OP that has a lot of helpful, friendly gaffers in it almost 24/7 that will definitely help you get your bearings and group up with you. But I don't think it's necessary to enjoy the game. I played the mod (100+hours) and about 40 hours of the standalone solo. You have to be very careful, and you will die, but that's sort of the point of the game.

I just can't believe you could play the game for 35 hours and not figure it out unless you weren't putting any effort into it. It's not exactly an intuitive game, but it's not Rocket science.

?
i got the game/figured out.
i just dont like it (yet).

maybe when zombies are a real thread, i come back and join some PVE servers.

 

[jmizzal]

Does this stand alone version have controller support like the Mod?

 

[Baldwin_the_First]

Couple questions
How can you trade the game if it is already attached to your account?
Did you not know what the game is when you bought it?
Do you understand what an Early Access game is?
Do you realize there are other ways to play the game other than 'walking around?'

Couple of question for you, now that he answered yours.

Why does it feel like you're offended about him not liking and deleting the game?
Do you realise some people don't have the same taste as you?
Could it be possible for someone to have a interest in the game, want to try it, and then after buying it, and trying it, even going so far as to play 30 hours, end up not liking it, get bored with it or simply frustrated? Any chance?

And still it doesn't sound enough for some of you it seems.

 

[Fistwell]

yeah, i could hide in a house deep in the woods, but that would be even more boring.

That's not being cautious, that's being fucking autistic.

and what do you do in away from the coast and with out guns?

Visit places, loot places, get guns, gear up, stalk people, steal backpacks from flash gordon, climb towers in castle ruins, see the view, etc.

Does this stand alone version have controller support like the Mod?

It seems to support at least the 360 controller, messed with it when I started out. Unsure if all functions are mapped however.

 

[Ketch]

so all those people in the steam trading thread bought games as gifts, but dont have someone to give it to yet?

why?


and what do you do in away from the coast and with out guns?


?
i got the game/figured out.
i just dont like it (yet).

maybe when zombies are a real thread, i come back and join some PVE servers.

Well if you get games you already own in a bundle or buy them cheap on sale or get a code from a give away or trade tf2 or dota hats... there are many reasons. For example, lots of people have extra games from humble bundles.


But yea the game is in alpha so you kind of have to make your own fun. See how long you can last on one life, see how many people you can "meet" without dying, see how many towns you can visit before dying, collect all the books in game. Collect medical supplies and try handing them out to noobs on the coast without dying. Find a bible and reenact the plot to the Book of Eli.

Agreed its a bit sparse and too easy right now, keeping in mind how early the build is but "why survive in day z" is like "why build in mine craft"

Edit: I'm not trying to judge or challenge your opinion. But I really like it so far even though it can be boring/too easy. so I just don't want you to miss out on some fun times due to the alpha ness of the early access release.

Also I think playing the alpha shows the games potential, and I think it's important to clarify that a lot of the issues people have with the game are because it isn't finished.

 

[Randam]

That's not being cautious, that's being fucking autistic.

haha.^^

yeah, idk.

i had wrong expectations.

but like i said, i will try it again, in a couple of months.
hope they are going to make zombiesextremely dangerous.
will join some PVE servers then.

 

[Grief.exe]

Couple of question for you, now that he answered yours.

Why does it feel like you're offended about him not liking and deleting the game?
Do you realise some people don't have the same taste as you?
Could it be possible for someone to have a interest in the game, want to try it, and then after buying it, and trying it, even going so far as to play 30 hours, end up not liking it, get bored with it or simply frustrated? Any chance?

And still it doesn't sound enough for some of you it seems.

DayZ is definitely not for everyone, its one of the most hardcore games out there, and I realize not everyone will enjoy it. I'm also glad it doesn't try to cater to everyone, that would take away what makes it so special.

I asked those questions because I was trying to get a feel for how he played 35 hours and was still so confused as to what the game was about. Its hard to believe.

haha.^^

yeah, idk.

i had wrong expectations.

but like i said, i will try it again, in a couple of months.
hope they are going to make zombiesextremely dangerous.
will join some PVE servers then.

There will probably never be PVE servers.

Maybe someone will set up a private hive eventually with such intent, but that will be well down the road and your character will be specific to that one server.

 

[Fistwell]

haha.^^

yeah, idk.

i had wrong expectations.

but like i said, i will try it again, in a couple of months.
hope they are going to make zombiesextremely dangerous.
will join some PVE servers then.

Yeah I mean, to each their own, and the game definitely isnt for everyone. But if you want to give it another go sometime, don't hesitate to PM, we can tag team.

There will probably never be PVE servers.

There are some *open quote* PVE servers *end quote*, or at least designated as such by their name in the server browser, but it seems more of a polite suggestion formulated by the server owner than anything that's actually enforced in any practical way. I get murdered just as ruthlessly on those servers as on normal ones.

 

[Randam]

There will probably never be PVE servers.

Maybe someone will set up a private hive eventually with such intent, but that will be well down the road and your character will be specific to that one server.

?
there are already PVE servers.

i dont know, how they work, but there are some.



and yeah, i really, really hope they make zombies more of a threat.

but for some reason, the mod zombies are even more of a joke than the SA zombies.
and the mod is out for almost 2 years. :/

 

[Grief.exe]

?
there are already PVE servers.

i dont know, how they work, but there are some.



and yeah, i really, really hope they make zombies more of a threat.

but for some reason, the mod zombies are even more of a joke than the SA zombies.
and the mod is out for almost 2 years. :/

They are PVE in name only, there is currently no way to enforce that restriction other than a suggestion. You will be killed for your items in the same fashion.

The zombie AI is due to be completely rewritten and, currently, the servers have zombie numbers and AI turned down in order to save performance.

The reason they don't really work in the mod is the RV engine was never designed to accommodate AI in that way, so they had to jury rig them in.

 

[Gruso]

and what are these outher ways to play this game?

I mostly play solo (as I did in the mod). Even then, with vehicles available, I would traverse the entire map on foot. Always taking the long way around to stay in cover. Staying unseen while I observe other players, sometimes as they loot, other times as they get into firefights. Entering towns when the coast is clear, doing my best not to be seen by zombies, and occasionally getting tangled up in unwanted encounters with other solo players (these encounters often end with kind words and a farewell). All in all, this style of gameplay delivers a strange combination of tension and serenity, and a great sense of accomplishment when you have spent days hitting every loot point without being seen.

And when the mood for combat takes me, I'll head to the coast and hunt wankers. The DayZero mod had a crew of Cherno rooftop snipers who only existed to kill fresh spawns. I would enjoy taking up my own rooftop position and counter-sniping. I'll certainly be doing a lot of this in the new Cherno.

In DayZ, survival means surviving other players first and foremost. This is an intense game in itself. And for me, PVP means strict rules of engagement - only firing when attacked, or when I've identified people who deserve it.

It's not a play style for everyone. But it sure beats running up the main road shouting friendly and getting shot.

 

[Randam]

then i hope there will be real PVE servers in the future.
cause without, i wont play this game again.

i could kill everyone i see, or steal there stuff, i really dont want to play like that.

wandering around, searching for stuff, killing zombies, and helpind other fighting zombies would be cool.

 

[Ketch]

?
there are already PVE servers.

i dont know, how they work, but there are some.



and yeah, i really, really hope they make zombies more of a threat.

but for some reason, the mod zombies are even more of a joke than the SA zombies.
and the mod is out for almost 2 years. :/

Zombie AI in the mod and the zombie AI currently in SA are based off Arma AI which is known garbage. Rocket has said they are behind in AI because they put a lot of time into fixing what was already there but recently decided its unfixable and needs to be custom made from the ground up. So they're starting over on the zombies. I don't think we'll see any changes to zombies until the new AI is ready and then we'll probably see a very large improvement all at once.... I should say hopefully instead of probably.... Because who knows. But he did say they have bohemia's senior programmers working on it.

 

[Loomba]

So I logged in today, walked about 10 steps and then some guy appeared behind me magically, told me to get on the ground. I did then he shot me in the back. What a cunt.

I ate a rotten kiwi and was about to die anyway, but still haha

 

[Fotheringay]

Just picked this game up a few days ago with a friend and I'm totally hooked. Got lucky yesterday and managed to pick up an M4, Mosin, and pistol all with ammo in like a 15 minute span. Only problem I'm having is trying to determine when something is a bug, or I'm just ignorant about the system involved. I accidentally hit my friend with an ax during a zombie swarm and we've tried every method possible for him to re-gain blood, and absolutely nothing seems to be working.

 

[Ketch]

Just picked this game up a few days ago with a friend and I'm totally hooked. Got lucky yesterday and managed to pick up an M4, Mosin, and pistol all with ammo in like a 15 minute span. Only problem I'm having is trying to determine when something is a bug, or I'm just ignorant about the system involved. I accidentally hit my friend with an ax during a zombie swarm and we've tried every method possible for him to re-gain blood, and absolutely nothing seems to be working.

Eat and drink until it says his stomach is full. Use antibiotics, alcohol treatment and painkillers/morphin. If all else fails a saline bag fixes everything.

 

[Faith]

Last time I lost everything. Should I just wait?

 

[Gruso]

Sounds like it's already been reset.

 

[Randam]

Zombie AI in the mod and the zombie AI currently in SA are based off Arma AI which is known garbage. Rocket has said they are behind in AI because they put a lot of time into fixing what was already there but recently decided its unfixable and needs to be custom made from the ground up. So they're starting over on the zombies. I don't think we'll see any changes to zombies until the new AI is ready and then we'll probably see a very large improvement all at once.... I should say hopefully instead of probably.... Because who knows. But he did say they have bohemia's senior programmers working on it.

well, imo it would be enough, if they would make them faster, stronger and gave them way more health.

and fix the walking through walls and stuff of course.

so you had to run in to a house and close the door to get rid of them for example.
or to slow them down while you go to the back door.

 

[Fotheringay]

Eat and drink until it says his stomach is full. Use antibiotics, alcohol treatment and painkillers/morphin. If all else fails a saline bag fixes everything.

Yeah we ate and drank, sat down for 30 minutes and nothing happened. Then a few minutes later I found a saline bag, used it on him, and still nothing, pretty sure it's just straight bugged at this point.

 

[Grief.exe]

Yeah we ate and drank, sat down for 30 minutes and nothing happened. Then a few minutes later I found a saline bag, used it on him, and still nothing, pretty sure it's just straight bugged at this point.

It is.

Press Escape, go to video options and configure, should reset his display.

 

[Faith]

Lol I lost my character again. And this time I joined just a normal server. I waited 30 minutes to be safe and still everything gone.

I will sleep now and if my character doesn't come back tomorrow I will stop to play this game till they fix it.

 

[maniac-kun]

So is this worth it already?

 

[Fistwell]

So is this worth it already?

If you're into survival, long walks in nature, being held up, robbing people, handcuffing people and feeding them rotten fruits, getting shot at by random stangers, having people jump in on you while you're drinking from a fountain and splitting your skull with an axe (to steal your plastic bottle and can opener), if you dont mind jank, getting ganked, having to restart from scratch very often, dealing with people playing like assholes and murdering you to steal your cool hat and/or aviator glasses, then yes, this game might be worth it already for you.

 

[bitoriginal]

Anyone playing this on a win 8 bootcamped macbook pro retina late 2013 with 750m? I've given it a go but it seems to run like shit. Optimal settings would be appreciated. I'm not really into PC gaming so have no idea. The lure of this game was too strong...

 

[Windom Earle]

So I finally bought this today. As usual my first concern is performance. It's overall ok, but I am getting some random stutters every few minutes. Is this server side or can I do something about it? My system is pretty good and has no bottlenecks.

 

[Ketch]

So I finally bought this today. As usual my first concern is performance. It's overall ok, but I am getting some random stutters every few minutes. Is this server side or can I do something about it? My system is pretty good and has no bottlenecks.

Try disabling clouds. It's good if it's running decent now, don't think there's been any real client side optimization yet.

 

[Ketch]

well, imo it would be enough, if they would make them faster, stronger and gave them way more health.

and fix the walking through walls and stuff of course.

so you had to run in to a house and close the door to get rid of them for example.
or to slow them down while you go to the back door.

The first time I took my buddy to north west airfield we had this elaborate plan with a look out and an empty backpack, a real quick sprint through all the tents just pick it all up and sort it out later thing... We didn't think about zombies at all.

While I was running up he was calling out zombi, zombi, zombi.... He had to abandoned the look out to try and help me fight off 5 zombies in the little tent city. And then he accidentally shot me because he thought he had his axe out but really he had his pistol... But we made out with like a whole bag worth of m4 parts scopes vests etc. just I ended up screen blurry and grey and he was still bleeding because he used all his bandages on me.

It took like a good 10 minutes to reorganize and figure out what happened... Later we were still talking about it and we decided it would be cool if every town was like that. So looting was a real risk, and you'd end up constantly taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back as far as gear goes. Like, I finally got some more food, but had to use all my m4 ammo to get it. Like real survival horror on this grand scale.

I think it'll get there someday.

 

[Windom Earle]

Try disabling clouds. It's good if it's running decent now, don't think there's been any real client side optimization yet.

Cheers!

 

[Thermite]

Do guns/gear respawn in this shit yet?

 

[Overdoziz]

Do guns/gear respawn in this shit yet?

Nope. Still gotta wait for server restarts.

 

[la flama blanca]

Any idea when we'll get vehicles in?

 

[jacksepticeye]

Getting some good sessions and footage with my buddies these days. Really enjoying it, can't wait for better gear and vehicles


Oh and I am never ever trusting more than one person anymore. It always ends how this video ends (though incredibly dumb on my part)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjR56ydj7rw

 

[Overdoziz]

God, I really hope they're gonna add a way to cancel actions some time soon. It's always awesome when you hear a zombie scream the moment you start eating and you're stuck doing the animation while you're getting hit by the zombie. Bonus points for when your character decides it's a good idea to switch your weapons three times in a row while not being able to move.

 

[Ketch]

Yes! Weapon switching is so frustrating sometimes.

 

[GruntosUK]

well, imo it would be enough, if they would make them faster, stronger and gave them way more health.

and fix the walking through walls and stuff of course.

so you had to run in to a house and close the door to get rid of them for example.
or to slow them down while you go to the back door.

Once the Zombies get back to mod levels it will get better. A lot of these KoS dicks will rage, delete the game and move on, because the difficulty will increase ten fold, and the Zombies will be the threat.

Also, seeing a new player running down the road being followed by a zombie train of 10 or more is a great sight to see.

 

[Senaxx]

I played the Arma II / Dayz Mod for more over then a year. And now with this standalone it feels like the beginning days of the mod again. A lot of bugs and a lot of weird accidents, but it has it typical DayZ feeling.

But overall it is an improvement. Better graphics and I really like the character customization. But since about 90% of the buildings area accessible now, you spend a lot of more time looting buildings and trying to find good gear.

The zombie's aren't a real threat at the moment since when you remove any weapons or items from you hands you can outrun them easily. And without the private hives yet the game is a lot more hardcore. You make 1 mistake and you are done, and you need to start over.

My advice if you didn't play DayZ before try to team up with some friends or other players.

 

[Fistwell]

Oh and I am never ever trusting more than one person anymore. It always ends how this video ends (though incredibly dumb on my part)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjR56ydj7rw

"Friendly! Friendly! ... we just need some food... " *shoots*

Yeah, I have a hard time bringing myself to trust any randoms in this game.

 

[Helloween]

My friends and me have embraced the bandit life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doQ2CsKS5-g

At 13:25 we rob a guy called "FlashGordon" XD

Bwahaha watching that back, we seem like such dicks hahaha

 

[Fried Food]

if the final game doesn't have good motivating reasons not to kill people then it will suck

 

[Fistwell]

It's a dogee-dog world bra.

 

[derFeef]

if the final game doesn't have good motivating reasons not to kill people then it will suck

There isn't any "gameplay" or "survival" reason not to kill other players, really.
Sadly.

 

[Senaxx]

There isn't any "gameplay" or "survival" reason not to kill other players, really.
Sadly.

Well if you need blood you do. If you kill them you can't do a blood transfusion, otherwise you can use them for blood. But I found out that the handcuffs break to easily.

Saw this quote on the dayz page:
"You either die a hiker or you live long enough to see yourself become a serial killer murdering hikers"

 

[Randam]

The zombie's aren't a real threat at the moment since when you remove any weapons or items from you hands you can outrun them easily. And without the private hives yet the game is a lot more hardcore. You make 1 mistake and you are done, and you need to start over. .

what were those "privite hives"?
sounds like you could save your status!?

 

[jacksepticeye]

"Friendly! Friendly! ... we just need some food... " *shoots*

Yeah, I have a hard time bringing myself to trust any randoms in this game.

Yeah but me being an idiot just stood there too which forced my buddy to rush to help and he fell off the higher floor. Thankfully my third party member was a pretty good DayZ player and he ran in instantly when he heard them talk.

But yeah it's pretty shitty the way things go. It's part of the beauty of the game but this constant shooting each other is gonna cripple the game. What ends up happening now is me and my team just shoot groups of 2 or more people on sight because of all the times we've been dicked over. The previous episode too had a guy with a rifle and we had nothing but he decided to fire on us anyway despite us making it very clear we were friendly

 

[Randam]

Yeah but me being an idiot just stood there too which forced my buddy to rush to help and he fell off the higher floor. Thankfully my third party member was a pretty good DayZ player and he ran in instantly when he heard them talk.

But yeah it's pretty shitty the way things go. It's part of the beauty of the game but this constant shooting each other is gonna cripple the game. What ends up happening now is me and my team just shoot groups of 2 or more people on sight because of all the times we've been dicked over. The previous episode too had a guy with a rifle and we had nothing but he decided to fire on us anyway despite us making it very clear we were friendly

just run away.

 

[Fistwell]

But yeah it's pretty shitty the way things go. It's part of the beauty of the game but this constant shooting each other is gonna cripple the game. What ends up happening now is me and my team just shoot groups of 2 or more people on sight because of all the times we've been dicked over.

Yeah I mean it is part of the fun. Each player encounter is very likely to be (literaly) dramatic. But it's kind of tiresome when you can't really trust anyone. The game would be richer if you actually were able to team up with strangers now and then (and not get murdered as a result). It probably does happen, but for every fruitful collaboration there's probably 10+ betrayals. I'm not taking the chance.

 

[Senaxx]

what were those "privite hives"?
sounds like you could save your status!?

Private hives are disconnected from the main hive. Currently your character lives in the main hive, so it doesn't matter on what server you play you always play with the same character. So if you get killed you don't have anything anymore, no matter what server you play on.

On a private hive your character only lives on that server. So you gear and character doesn't get copied over to an other server. On the DayZ Mod it was very common that every server was a private hive, so on every server you started you had a fresh new character, and could levelup that character on each server.

As far as I know private hives are not possible yet on the standalone.

 

[jacksepticeye]

just run away.

If they don't have weapons we let them trot along but if we see 2 or 3 guys with guns it's too risky to let them run around and possibly shoot you later on

Yeah I mean it is part of the fun. Each player encounter is very likely to be (literaly) dramatic. But it's kind of tiresome when you can't really trust anyone. The game would be richer if you actually were able to team up with strangers now and then (and not get murdered as a result). It probably does happen, but for every fruitful collaboration there's probably 10+ betrayals. I'm not taking the chance.

This is why I loved the mod when it first came out, I met new friendly people constantly and it slowly started getting worse and worse. Now it's gotten to a point where so many people have been killed on sight, even as a fresh spawn with no gear, that they all think "screw that I'm just shooting on sight from now on"

No other game has the player vs player tension of DayZ though. My heart pounds when I meet other survivors