That Palutena leak does look pretty convincing. Can anyone match the Mario screenshot to something already released?
She looks pretty legit. But if I've learned anything from Pokémon X & Y's launch, it's that people are really good at making fake 3DS images.
No need to get seeeeeeeeeeeeeeerious. Sorry. lolLet's not ruin another (possible) female character reveal please. Thanks.
This fact, as well as the fact that Sakurai DID manage to make Uprising pretty darn well, is why I still haven't given up hope for Smash 4 to be a competitive experience.
Most of the basic implications have already been covered in this thread. It's a big deal, but I don't think it needs its own thread. We don't want to drive the entirety of GAF crazy by posting new Smash threads every two seconds.
Okay, so the main one. There is some mechanic in play that allows a player to "trump" a player that's already grabbing a ledge. I see this meaning one of two things: either a Tether Recovery can "trump" an existing ledge-grabber (so Link uses his Clawshot, hands below the ledge even while Mario is on the ledge, and then pulls himself up, knocking Mario off) or a player in general can "trump" an existing grabber, either through just trying to grab it when they're no longer invincible or through some process involving their damage percentages - who knows.
Either way, it sounds pretty bad to me. Best case scenario, it's a buff specifically for Tether Recoveries, which certainly needed one. In that case, though, edgehogging becomes completely useless against characters with Tether Recoveries, as it would put you in a worse situation if you even tried. So that's bad. Worst case scenario, this applies to all situations of edgehogging, and effectively removes the mechanic. Which is really bad, as making grabbing the edge easy would not only extend characters' lifespan (after Brawl already did tremendously) but also remove much of the dynamic that makes the edges in Smash Bros. so good as game mechanics.
Most of the possibilities about the invincibility change have already been discussed in the last page, and I am of the opinion that it likely mostly means that characters that just hop onto the ledge from the stage (like for edgehogging) will have much less invincibility. Which is yet another reason to never edgehog again, and completely changes the dynamic at the ledge for the worse. But hey, we don't know that for sure yet so whatever.
The final bit about things no longer changing over 100% could really go either way. How it worked in earlier Smash Bros. was simple - below 100% you had better options from the ledge, and above 100% you had worse options. Nixing that distinction could easily mean that, again, the ledge is worsened as a mechanic - if it's too easy to get back up from the ledge, it becomes pretty moot. On the other hand, though, it would generally keep the mechanics of the game dependent on the player's skill and not on how much damage they have accumulated, which is a good thing. How this change pans out will depend on how the new singular ledge options are balanced.
Damn it make it stop. I can't freaking tell anymore. D:
Yes, the best case scenario would be similar to PM. The main difference would be that in PM the Tether-user is forced to jump up from the ledge if they pull up, putting them in a specific situation that can fairly easily be controlled and taken advantage of by the edgehogger. In the hypothetical Smash 4 scenario, the edgehogger would be the one put into a forced situation and put at the disadvantage, rendering edghogging useless and a bad option.so similar to project m.
Damn it make it stop. I can't freaking tell anymore. D:
Does the Palutena model look like the pictures that show on bottom screen during Uprising dialog? I can't remember what they look like, but someone with access to a 3DS should check.
Just checked the entire lineup of 3DS shots.
That Mario model has NOT been ripped.
Could there be an element of truth here?
the dialog screen are drawn art, not models
The only thing keeping me from saying these pictures might be real is that none of them show her attacking anything.
This is the one that makes me lean toward it being a fake, actually. Her right cheek looks too "rough" for it to be real.
Like, I want to bite her bum.
The only thing keeping me from saying these pictures might be real is that none of them show her attacking anything.
...could be....an assist trophy. Ugh, that would suck.
...could be....an assist trophy. Ugh, that would suck. Although I don't think it's real anyhow.
...could be....an assist trophy. Ugh, that would suck. Although I don't think it's real anyhow.
Just checked the entire lineup of 3DS shots.
That Mario model has NOT been ripped.
Could there be an element of truth here?
What about the backgrounds? Are they in any pics of them?
(by which I mean the exact angles)
What about the backgrounds? Are they in any pics of them?
(by which I mean the exact angles)
Enjoy my butt-related comedy. It's the best~ok come on let's not ruin palutena
From what I'm reading, the "leaker" said that she would be an Assist Trophy.
So... Let's see what happens.
according to the smashboards thread, those were separate people.From what I'm reading, the "leaker" said that she would be an Assist Trophy.
So... Let's see what happens.
Just checked the entire lineup of 3DS shots.
That Mario model has NOT been ripped.
Could there be an element of truth here?
Yes, the best case scenario would be similar to PM. The main difference would be that in PM the Tether-user is forced to jump up from the ledge if they pull up, putting them in a specific situation that can fairly easily be controlled and taken advantage of by the edgehogger. In the hypothetical Smash 4 scenario, the edgehogger would be the one put into a forced situation and put at the disadvantage, rendering edghogging useless and a bad option.
No need to get seeeeeeeeeeeeeeerious. Sorry. lol
Nah, but seriously. That would be a fantastic addition to the roster.
To see the series receive more representation, especially after Uprising, would be swell.
From what I'm reading, the "leaker" said that she would be an Assist Trophy.
So... Let's see what happens.
Enjoy my butt-related comedy. It's the best~
Ah, yes this is a better question. Hard to fake that.
What about the backgrounds? Are they in any pics of them?
(by which I mean the exact angles)
...no, it's original too.
Not a single 3DS shot at night with a pillar emerging in the bottom with with just the light gaze.
This is a totally original image.
Oh yeah, Luigi's down-taunt is now that tiny bit easier to hit. Still near impossible, though.
Apparent "leak" of Palutena. It's not confirmed at all so don't go hype.
Fascinating. I'm sold....no, it's original too.
Not a single 3DS shot at night with a pillar emerging in the bottom with with just the light gaze.
This is a totally original image.