Really want to support... but Vanquish is such a bad game...
Underestimating how many PC gamers are console gamers as well or came from console gaming is a bad idea.
I agree, let people pick two games and focus on the top three in the petition and list the others as potential future endeavors. It makes sense to focus on games that have some data behind them to show interest rather than the assumption of "these games have the most potential" because of what is determined during a relatively closed discussion.
Don't use the petition to try to influence Sega, just use it to determine where the focus should be.
Great, Valkyria Chronicles and Resonance of Fate aren't on the petition.
Really want to support... but Vanquish is such a bad game...
I'm actually incline to agree with him.
Linear games, short games, games that focus on presentation more than on player agency are all things that historically don't draw too much attention from PC gamers.
And no, it's not because they don't know what they are missing, it's that in most cases they actually don't care too much.
Valkyria Chronicles has its own paragraph, but I wish that it was moved up right after the paragraph about Vanquish.
We're requesting that you port these initial three so that we can demonstrate that the PC market will support this type of content, allowing you to then make a better determination as to which games will best suit your PC audience going forward
It's hidden away in a box of text, while Vanquish, Bayonetta, and Virtua Fighter 5 have their own numbered entry. And then read the text below:
And Resonance of Fate isn't even mentioned.
I appreciate the effort by TaroYamada, but I don't see the need to sign this petition when the mentioned games throughout this thread have been excluded.
Japan can't do PC games, please just stop asking for ports that you know will be bad
Japan can't do PC games, please just stop asking for ports that you know will be bad
Are you being dense on purpose? Dude, it's a three game petition based on what games have higher chances to get ported. You need to tie it down to two, three, to make some sense. Just because the game you want now is not included, doesn't mean there' no need to support this. If these games get ported and they are midly succesful, it will be a gateway for more to come. It's not that hard to understand.It's hidden away in a box of text, while Vanquish, Bayonetta, and Virtua Fighter 5 have their own numbered entry. And then read the text below:
And Resonance of Fate isn't even mentioned.
I appreciate the effort by TaroYamada, but I don't see the need to sign this petition when the mentioned games throughout this thread have been excluded.
It's hidden away in a box of text, while Vanquish, Bayonetta, and Virtua Fighter 5 have their own numbered entry.
And Resonance of Fate isn't even mentioned.
I appreciate the effort by TaroYamada, but I don't see the need to sign this petition when the mentioned games throughout this thread have been excluded.
I am not in disagreement with you, I wish that it was mentioned in a more prominent way. Vanquish and Bayonetta are probably the most frequently mentioned games throughout this thread and they have thankfully been included in the petition, so if you even have the slightest interest in those, I think it is worth signing the petition.
While I appreciate TaroYamada's effort, I would have liked to see Grief's take on this petition.
The petition is live.
Within the next 24-48 hours I'll have this up on SEGANerds, SEGABits and SEGAShiro. NeoGAF member Nfreak has also told me he'll give this promotion on his YouTube channel. That's a grassroots type of thing and it's pretty much where my connections begin and end with the press. If you run your own sites and you support this petition, or if you know press who might be interested in this petition give it a forward, spread the word if you don't mind.
Outside of that, please tweet, revive the #SEGAPCPorts hashtag and get this out to your followers.
Grief we need an OP edit.
Thanks everybody for your help and your patience, I hope we can work together to make this happen.
edit: before anybody asks about time, I targeted 10 AM GMT, I was a bit late but this is overall a good time to start imo.
2nd edit: signature goal isn't final, unsure if I'll raise or lower and will be discussing the matter with a few people, grief included.
I asked for his consent, though I'm not sure you were there for that aspect of this. Anyways, he's still a component of this. As for your disappointment, I apologize I delivered on the paragraph promised at the very least even if it's not the position you exactly wanted.
It's extremely difficult to balance the multiple interests involved in this, it's not easy and I attempted to make sacrifices and be reasonable at every turn. If you want proof of that, I was opposed to two platinumgames in the petition and you can find that post in this very thread, I compromised there. I also compromised on valkyria chronicles as well I feel, though I wasn't directly opposed to granting it its own paragraph. At the end of the day I attempted to appease as many people as I possibly could but that's also, within reason, an impossible task.
Anyways, thanks everybody it seems to be going well so far, I imagine we'll pick up more sigs as my fellow Americans began waking up. Sorry if you aren't pleased with the end product, I did what I felt was the best I could do.
Thanks for the link, signed it and will share it with a few friends.
Perhaps a new thread would be better to bring more attention?
Don't worry, you did a good job, I learned from the whole Sonic Transformed DLC vote thing that you can't get Sega fan to agree on anything anyway.
I asked for his consent, though I'm not sure you were there for that aspect of this. Anyways, he's still a component of this. As for your disappointment, I apologize I delivered on the paragraph promised at the very least even if it's not the position you exactly wanted.
It's extremely difficult to balance the multiple interests involved in this, it's not easy and I attempted to make sacrifices and be reasonable at every turn. If you want proof of that, I was opposed to two platinumgames in the petition and you can find that post in this very thread, I compromised there. I also compromised on valkyria chronicles as well I feel, though I wasn't directly opposed to granting it its own paragraph. At the end of the day I attempted to appease as many people as I possibly could but that's also, within reason, an impossible task.
Anyways, thanks everybody it seems to be going well so far, I imagine we'll pick up more sigs as my fellow Americans began waking up. Sorry if you aren't pleased with the end product, I did what I felt was the best I could do.
I also think a new thread for the petition is a good idea.That's it signed from me.
Would it not be better to start a new thread to announce the restart of the petition? I almost never looked in here today.
That's it signed from me.
Would it not be better to start a new thread to announce the restart of the petition? I almost never looked in here today.
I also think a new thread for the petition is a good idea.
This has probably been answered in the thread's 23 pages but how did Binary Domain do on the PC ?
I don't think that SEGA has made any statements about it, at least I can't find any.
Bayonetta - There is a dearth of character action games available right now and Rising, a Platinum game in a similar vein to Bayonetta, was the top seller for 48 hours during the Steam sale on its debut.
Rising did well (we speculate) but it is part of a popular franchise and it was released close to the highly rated console version. There is no guarantee Bayonetta will do well since it's a far more "capricious" game thematically and it has been out for years.
Vanquish - 120 FPS, do I need say more?
You need to say that 120fps is pointless. The game is already perfect on consoles and it will lose much of its gameplay appeal if played with keyboard and mouse. I don't see it doing any better than Binary Domain which I suspect slipped under the radar of many PC gamers.
Valkyria Chronicles - Strategy RPGs are the platform's bread and butter
Actually it's not really a strategy rpg. It's a turn based rpg with tactical gameplay, heavy on story and dialogue.
Resonance of Fate - The FFVII and FFVIII releases on Steam have sold quite well despite not being the best of ports and so late. The battle system for this game seems well-suited for higher frame rates.
That's not making sense at all.
All things considered I don't see why Sega should waste resources porting these games (that are very doubtful to succeed) when it could be localizing Yakuza 5 and being loyal to the fans that have actually supported them.
Yeah.I'm disappointed by how this turned out. At what point was Valkyria Chronicles replaced by Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown? It makes zero sense after the support VC got for the initial start of the campaign on Twitter. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised seeing who ended up actually making the petition.
Nope.Nah, I think a big part of it actually is that they don't know what they're missing. Same as how there's probably a ton of console gamers who would love, say for example, RTS games if they had gotten more exposure to them.
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Nope.
It's not an issue of genre and finding gameplay fun, it's just as much about having your idea of what a game is and what you enjoy shaped by what you've played your whole life.
Dunno if this has been mentioned, but is there a reason condemned 2 isn't on PC?I mean, aside from the reasons bayo,vanquish etc isn't on them. Are there any legal problems with monolith or WB preventing this from happening or something?
Being a first person shooter, horror and with its sequel already on PC this should also be on the list. Well, except from the fact that it's not made in japan.
I'm just saying these are the types of games that a lot of people really don't enjoy.
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And those types of games that you say people enjoy, there are just as many who don't enjoy boring open ended games with no direction, no cohesive pace to the story, so much freedom that it feels pointless and inane and almost like work *Ex: TES* etc.
Not saying they are bad, but it goes both ways.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
just signed and told everyone to sign up.
so want to see bayo and VC on pc!
INABA: Perhaps. But to be honest, were good friends with Valve and often go to their studio. We go there, hang out, talk about many different things, and we are very interested in Steam and would definitely like to release games on Windows. Right now, were at a place in which publishers ask us to make titles. So, if the publisher doesnt want to release a PC version, then there wont be a PC version. It really comes down to that.
AARON: Is there any possibility that Vanquish will get a PC version?
KOTAKU: It would be a good idea to release Vanquish on PC.
INABA: (smiling) Hrm. I wonder... If you stop recording, I can talk about that. (laughs)