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UW High Stakes - Jan 26 - Loaded Lux vs. Hollow Da Don

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enzo_gt

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Jack Thriller dying/crying on the mic

wow, I need a minute to collect my thoughts

2-1 or 3-0 Hollow. Lux' entire angle, people warned him not to come with that shit because exactly this would happen.
 
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hlazzo

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That was Hollow's best performance in years. Even Lux could tell he lost. The crowd chanting "Hollow" at the end was the icing on the cake.
 
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enzo_gt

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My man Hollow did it brehs

He did everything he had to do.
- Broke down Lux being a false prophet
- Broke down his last performance and shit on his legacy
- Rebuttaled Lux' multiple angles (Black Panthers, Lean, self-destructive nature)
- Bars
- Literally and figuratively gave him the work
- Had simpler, yet more effective props

oprah-tears-tissue.gif%3Fw%3D640


Can't wait for AngryFan, Norbes & JayBlac's commentary on this.
 
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Malleymal

You now belong to FMT.
this was a great PPV....

I am happy for UW, they did the damn thing.

Still laughing at Ars shutting down Joe Buddens Song while Joe Budden was in the building.
 
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The Return of

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Oh god. Just finished Day vs Magic. I haven't laughed so hard in awhile. I don't even care who won, but i feel like both came at 100% with what they do best. Daylyt even broke character at the end of his 3rd round, that's how much he was enjoying it lol.
 
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enzo_gt

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@DanjaZone16 46m
Dem niggaz might've permanently engraved themselves in the top 2 spots...it's gon be hard to top that.

@OrganikHipHop 12m
Anyone think Lux will get 40K again?

@BIGTQMB 21m
Hollow da don won

@urltv 14m
@HollowDaDonLOM vs @iAmLoadedLux Was A Great Battle!!' Even if We Didn't Do It.. It's About The Culture

@charronkotd 24m
Hollow cooked lux!! 3-0. How do you get paid 40k and choke?

@JohnJohnDaDon
b magic hitman cal hollow

@JoeBudden 17m
I gotta give it to that boy Hollow, u could tell he worked hard on his verses & was crazy focused.. He got the W in my book.

@illwill6deep 42m
By any mean necess....awww shit this nigga done brought blk face out...gimmie my coat nigga @UWBattleLeague

@chillajones 45m
Hollow won. Good night

@DanjaZone16 1h
Welp!! Hollow brought out Cal pops...battle over Hollow won.

Washed_Out said:
Didn't watch it, but I got my buddy to rip it for me. Hope they do upload it to youtube. Sounds like Hollow didn't get bodied.
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Eventually all of the videos will be up on YT officially. They're all already up unofficially but will probably be taken down.
 
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Esch

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It was incredible. The tension, the way Lux spit some shit and then Hollow topped it, every time. I picked Hollow to win, 2-1... But I didn't in my heart of hearts truly believe that he would win. He had everything. He had personals. He had incredible flow. He had crowd control and heart, and rebutted damn near everything. Everything. Lux came with the schemes and imagery, Hollow had punchlines and a battle plan. The way he broke Lux down was incredible. You could score that 3-0, but I still wouldn't call that a bodybag. It was too good of a performance by both. I've actually never seen a battle where people are landing personals and they hurt, you can see it on their face, but both guys come back firing.

That was the Gatti-Ward of battle rap. Sequel please.
 
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Esch

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Pearlito's Way

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Esch said:
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It was incredible. The tension, the way Lux spit some shit and then Hollow topped it, every time. I picked Hollow to win, 2-1... But I didn't in my heart of hearts truly believe that he would win. He had everything. He had personals. He had incredible flow. He had crowd control and heart, and rebutted damn near everything. Everything. Lux came with the schemes and imagery, Hollow had punchlines and a battle plan. The way he broke Lux down was incredible. You could score that 3-0, but I still wouldn't call that a bodybag. It was too good of a performance by both. I've actually never seen a battle where people are landing personals and they hurt, you can see it on their face, but both guys come back firing.

That was the Gatti-Ward of battle rap. Sequel please.
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It's always hard to judge Lux battles because the crowd interferes so much. The question remains would Hollow verse be just as potent if he went first instead of after.
 
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Pearlito's Way

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mc emcee said:
After watching it twice, I'm giving it to Lux. Hollow had bars but he is just corny sometimes
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It's obvious Hollow was ready for him. But I can't help but wonder if he didn't win the coin toss how would his verse's play out. I'm not saying they were weak in any regard, just that it seem so tailor made for a rebuttal, rather than an attack. Even his finished with Cal's pops at the end proves that. I don't think it would of worked had he gone first in the last round.
 
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Esch

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How do yall feel about making this the official battle rap thread? We can get enzo to change the OT content and mods to change title.
 
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Mattlikewhoa

Member
I don't know how some people are calling that a win for Lux!? Hollow Da Don beat him from EVERY angle you look at it...

enzo_gt said:
My man Hollow did it brehs

He did everything he had to do.
- Broke down Lux being a false prophet
- Broke down his last performance and shit on his legacy
- Rebuttaled Lux' multiple angles (Black Panthers, Lean, self-destructive nature)
- Bars
- Literally and figuratively gave him the work
- Had simpler, yet more effective props

oprah-tears-tissue.gif%3Fw%3D640


Can't wait for AngryFan, Norbes & JayBlac's commentary on this.
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Well said... I haven't been this hyped over a battle in a while. It was rather refreshing seeing two heavy weights going at it back and forth like that.
 
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Esch

Banned
Mattlikewhoa said:
I don't know how some people are calling that a win for Lux!? Hollow Da Don beat him from EVERY angle you look at it...



Well said... I haven't been this hyped over a battle in a while. It was rather refreshing seeing two heavy weights going at it back and forth like that.
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Its a incredible battle and lux had legendary bars but I agree. Its 2-1 Hollow definitively now to me. I realize Lux has those bars that need rap genius examination but theyre still not seeing the breakdowns and personals and energy hollow brought to the table.
 
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enzo_gt

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AngryFan007 and 3 Letter Man debate UW High Stakes

Esch said:
How do yall feel about making this the official battle rap thread? We can get enzo to change the OT content and mods to change title.
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Loaded Lux being in the thread title is a huge reason why this thread succeeded IMO, (that's why I put it there) and the Battle Rap OT didn't.. there's <10 people who are into battle rap on GAF it seems and I don't think any of them post as frequently as either of us.

Mattlikewhoa said:
I don't know how some people are calling that a win for Lux!? Hollow Da Don beat him from EVERY angle you look at it...

Well said... I haven't been this hyped over a battle in a while. It was rather refreshing seeing two heavy weights going at it back and forth like that.
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Esch said:
Its a incredible battle and lux had legendary bars but I agree. Its 2-1 Hollow definitively now to me. I realize Lux has those bars that need rap genius examination but theyre still not seeing the breakdowns and personals and energy hollow brought to the table.
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Not necessarily trying to downplay Lux' bars there, he was still very clearly on some other lyrically, just caught the opiate flips and stuff on a second listen, it's just I feel his content fell completely flat.

3-0 Hollow but it's not a bodybag by any means. I wouldn't say it's close because of the content. Second and third are closer though IMO. Hollow destroyed him on all of the levels except lyrical technicality, maybe punchlines too. In the third round Hollow had some particularly weak lines that he could have cut out entirely and he ended it sort of weak (this has always been a problem for Hollow which results in more debatable rounds than there should be).

Lux sort of lost the battle before he got there, I don't think analyzing the bars will change that. Hollow's content make ALL of Lux' irrelevant. Let's take his three biggest angles: drugs, the revolution and the delinquency.

- Drugs; Hollow cooked him for associating with people that do lean for features, needing $40k to cop a brick (further rubbed it in when he mentioned him not filing taxes and BMF being able to put up for their people when he couldn't for his own son). You also just can't say this to a funny ninja like Hollow, people have taken this angle against Hollow before and got nowhere. Mix that Hollow not looking like a crackhead, and Lux just looks like an old man yelling at a cloud.

- Delinquency; Hollow is not proud of his past and he doesn't actively promote it. Full stop. This also overlaps too much with the Calicoe battle's angle so it also packed less punch/relevancy. Easy to develop a large picture when you focused on the negatives. Pringles, stack chips in the can.

- Revolution; Lux' biggest angle that people were already not tryna hear. Everyone has seen through Lux' shit. Between Beasley of URL exposing Lux not coming with a plan when he said he had one, wanting money off of the top without putting anything in (read: greed), holding up other people's bread for his own greed (Hollow's), and fighting for bigger cheques for battle rappers when they can't sustain that sort of output over and over... it's well documented what Lux was really in it for. Lux wouldn't negotiate, spat in the face of man and organization that gave him a platform to be where he's at, and rubbed it into people's faces when we figured out it was PPV only, never hitting YT and the prices were so high. Hollow exposed all that, then exposed him for shorchanging multiple others (Sub 0, Tech 9, Kid Capri, Conceited, etc.). Then he transitioned this into him not having his priorities
n***a
straight with respect to his son and Lux' entire gimmick was done for.

When you have Arsonal and Ray Swag in the back nodding to Hollow's line about him doing Smack wrong.. it's a wrap.

- - -

That said.. the best part about this? Hollow isn't waiting for no $40k again, even though he can damn near do what Lux did. He said he'll take pay cuts as long as he gets to battle more often. And this year we will probably get Dizaster vs. Hollow as the battle of the Grind Time champs on KOTD, and Clips vs. Hollow on URL as the battle of the most well rounded battle rappers. Hollow be thy name.
 
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Pearlito's Way

Neo Member
enzo_gt said:
AngryFan007 and 3 Letter Man debate UW High Stakes


Loaded Lux being in the thread title is a huge reason why this thread succeeded IMO, (that's why I put it there) and the Battle Rap OT didn't.. there's <10 people who are into battle rap on GAF it seems and I don't think any of them post as frequently as either of us.



Not necessarily trying to downplay Lux' bars there, he was still very clearly on some other lyrically, just caught the opiate flips and stuff on a second listen, it's just I feel his content fell completely flat.

3-0 Hollow but it's not a bodybag by any means. I wouldn't say it's close because of the content. Second and third are closer though IMO. Hollow destroyed him on all of the levels except lyrical technicality, maybe punchlines too. In the third round Hollow had some particularly weak lines that he could have cut out entirely and he ended it sort of weak (this has always been a problem for Hollow which results in more debatable rounds than there should be).

Lux sort of lost the battle before he got there, I don't think analyzing the bars will change that. Hollow's content make ALL of Lux' irrelevant. Let's take his three biggest angles: drugs, the revolution and the delinquency.

- Drugs; Hollow cooked him for associating with people that do lean for features, needing $40k to cop a brick (further rubbed it in when he mentioned him not filing taxes and BMF being able to put up for their people when he couldn't for his own son). You also just can't say this to a funny ninja like Hollow, people have taken this angle against Hollow before and got nowhere. Mix that Hollow not looking like a crackhead, and Lux just looks like an old man yelling at a cloud.

- Delinquency; Hollow is not proud of his past and he doesn't actively promote it. Full stop. This also overlaps too much with the Calicoe battle's angle so it also packed less punch/relevancy. Easy to develop a large picture when you focused on the negatives. Pringles, stack chips in the can.

- Revolution; Lux' biggest angle that people were already not tryna hear. Everyone has seen through Lux' shit. Between Beasley of URL exposing Lux not coming with a plan when he said he had one, wanting money off of the top without putting anything in (read: greed), holding up other people's bread for his own greed (Hollow's), and fighting for bigger cheques for battle rappers when they can't sustain that sort of output over and over... it's well documented what Lux was really in it for. Lux wouldn't negotiate, spat in the face of man and organization that gave him a platform to be where he's at, and rubbed it into people's faces when we figured out it was PPV only, never hitting YT and the prices were so high. Hollow exposed all that, then exposed him for shorchanging multiple others (Sub 0, Tech 9, Kid Capri, Conceited, etc.). Then he transitioned this into him not having his priorities
n***a
straight with respect to his son and Lux' entire gimmick was done for.

When you have Arsonal and Ray Swag in the back nodding to Hollow's line about him doing Smack wrong.. it's a wrap.

- - -

That said.. the best part about this? Hollow isn't waiting for no $40k again, even though he can damn near do what Lux did. He said he'll take pay cuts as long as he gets to battle more often. And this year we will probably get Dizaster vs. Hollow as the battle of the Grind Time champs on KOTD, and Clips vs. Hollow on URL as the battle of the most well rounded battle rappers. Hollow be thy name.
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I still feel that Hollow's bars was more geared towards a rebuttal moreso than an actual attack. I don't feel his verses would have the same impact had he gone first. I truly believe the battle would have been drastically different had he lost that coin toss.
 
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enzo_gt

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Pearlito's Way said:
I still feel that Hollow's bars was more geared towards a rebuttal moreso than an actual attack. I don't feel his verses would have the same impact had he gone first. I truly believe the battle would have been drastically different had he lost that coin toss.
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Well, his rebuttals sort of overlap with his content I feel. The rebuttal is the attack. The content is the same between writtens and freestyles. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Hollow wrote that shit ahead of time because he knew already what Lux was going to talk about, that's what allowed him to use the false prophet angle.

The majority of his verses invalidated what Lux was trying to get off, and if you compare personals, what was the hardest thing Lux said to Hollow? That Lux is the reason he's being paid the most he's ever gotten paid?

I thought about the order thing quite a bit. I think if Lux went 2nd, his 3rd would have looked a bit better because he had a better concentration of punches, but by then Hollow would have already rebuttled the drug thing which was a failed angle anyways. And then Lux saying "I hate you lost n***as" would hold little weight after Hollow took the son/BMF angle. Him saying he's made you the most money he ever made in a match would hold little weight after Hollow exposed Lux' greed and true intentions.

I'm only putting so much weight on content because Lux does.
 
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Discotheque

Banned
yo seriously i enjoyed hollow's rounds more. they were rebuttals sure, but it felt on the spot as opposed to lux's which just looks rehearsed and more...theatrical.

two different styles.
 
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Camp Lo

Banned
First round Lux
Second round Hollow
Third round toss up

Shameful event with eSports level mic issues. Gotta get that shit together man.
 
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mc emcee

Neo Member
I agree with everything enzo_gt said. Hollow had all the bases covered last night. He knew exactly what lux was gonna talk about, how he was gonna say it and knew exactly how to ridicule him. However, his execution was all over the place. To me it felt like Lux was rapping directly at Hollow and Hollow was talking to us.
 
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Pearlito's Way

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mc emcee said:
I agree with everything enzo_gt said. Hollow had all the bases covered last night. He knew exactly what lux was gonna talk about, how he was gonna say it and knew exactly how to ridicule him. However, his execution was all over the place. To me it felt like Lux was rapping directly at Hollow and Hollow was talking to us.
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It's not hard to cover bases with Lux because that his stick. He's been on that ish for a minute now, why change? Just because Hollow attack his Black Panther persona, Muslim mannerisms, and Uplift the black man movement doesn't make his rhymes any less potent. Especially, when he quotes Jay "Just because you don't understand him, doesn't mean that he's nice" Actually it does. It proves that you're not mentally equipped to understand the fine art of double entendre and lyrical nuances.
A wise man once said to me, don't worry about it. Every now and again everybody looks up. It took a while to get what he was saying, but it applies here.
 
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enzo_gt

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Pearlito's Way said:
It's not hard to cover bases with Lux because that his stick. He's been on that ish for a minute now, why change? Just because Hollow attack his Black Panther persona, Muslim mannerisms, and Uplift the black man movement doesn't make his rhymes any less potent. Especially, when he quotes Jay "Just because you don't understand him, doesn't mean that he's nice" Actually it does. It proves that you're not mentally equipped to understand the fine art of double entendre and lyrical nuances.
A wise man once said to me, don't worry about it. Every now and again everybody looks up. It took a while to get what he was saying, but it applies here.
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Again, this argument falters when Hollow broke down shit he said vs. Calicoe that made no sense. German guard dogs, Vicodin, etc. He broke the blind wall of trust with Lux, or at least went at it. Clear examples of when it doesn't make sense.. it doesn't make sense.

"My bars give you that I just shitted face, his bars give you that... I think I get it face"
 
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Kimosabae

Banned
Missed this completely. Never paid attention to the date, just figured it was still a few days away since the thread was under five pages. Sad.


Is there an archive?
 
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Washed_Out

Member
Finally watched Hollow Vs. Lux. I got Hollow winning. Let's just say I had a "i just shitted face" when listening to his rounds.
 
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Pearlito's Way

Neo Member
Washed_Out said:
Finally watched Hollow Vs. Lux. I got Hollow winning. Let's just say I had a "i just shitted face" when listening to his rounds.
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I just rewatched it twice and I still got lux winning it. My question is for those who got hollow as the winner what's the score and which rounds do you think hollow won?
 
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