Basileus777
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Talking about 2016 in January of 2014 and complaining that MS won't have new IPs then is such an utterly absurd thing to say.
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Phil Spencer: Still have flagship games in development; "new IP critical"
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2013 would be Spartan Assault. You could have yearly Halo games without them all being major console titles. I am heavily against a H2A so soon, but a Halo 3 Anniversary should never happen, at least not in this decade.
Nightengale
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In other words, water is wet. All platform holders with first- studios are naturally commited to exclusive games. :/
Let's be fair, it's very difficult to know at this point of time, how committed the respective companies are towards new IPs.
One would be forgiven to assume MS is kings of new IP development at the first 3 years of the Xbox 360, but things change, stuff break and Kinects was sold, so you know... things turned out differently compared to the bright future that the 360 had.
TheBioLover
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Hey ntkrnl, any other details you can spill?
What?
because the "title " of the "next game" was not set. Do we need a new title for a port?
you guys are crazy if you think they were hyping on an old port by setting up a disappointed of a year delay of new halo true next gen game. Seriously. that would be GTA teasing , hey New GTA at the end of the year guys with all the bells and whistle with 60fps, and then reveal nay it's just GTA2 port............. SURPRIZE
What?
because the "title " of the "next game" was not set. Do we need a new title for a port?
you guys are crazy if you think they were hyping on an old port by setting up a disappointed of a year delay of new halo true next gen game. Seriously. that would be GTA teasing , hey New GTA at the end of the year guys with all the bells and whistle with 60fps, and then reveal nay it's just GTA2 port............. SURPRIZE
there is a big difference between 4 months and 12 months
Nightengale
Member
We have no stats to prove how well it has sold.
All numbers has shown Ryse to be underperforming quite a bit compared compared to Forza/DR3, and we know DR3 shipped a million as of last month.
Besides, for a new IP, one would guess that MS/Crytek would like to tout the million benchmark if it was achieved, but that hasn't happened.
I'll be buying it when I get my Xbone. I still think it looks fun as hell.
with a lot of new ips mixed. Go figure right, making sequels of franchises that are known to sell and having new ips to boot? what a unique business move that is
dragonbane
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famousmortimer
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The best kept secret of the launch is that Ryse and Knack are way better than reviews gave them credit for. Assuming you enjoy both genres, of course.
I really like the Fall lineup. H2A, Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive...I don't see how anybody can brush all of those exclusives aside, not to mention anything else we haven't heard about yet.
New IP, established franchises, it's the mix I was expecting and it looks like we'll be getting it.
Still very unconvinced on the whole Halp 3/4 HD ports, I just don't see how that fits in.
New IP, established franchises, it's the mix I was expecting and it looks like we'll be getting it.
Still very unconvinced on the whole Halp 3/4 HD ports, I just don't see how that fits in.
Well, if ntkrnl is legit (and he's been confirmed by bish so...) then yes this is probably something real.
Also she wasn't the principle engine architect. She worked on tools. (I'm guesing you're referring to Corinne Yu?)
as per MS. New IP discussion.
It is a fact that MS have shown plenty of diverse new IP for XB1. you can't argue with that fact. but, the problem some have is those are paid 3rd party support that usually dies mid to end of console life cycle as they become to expensive to money hat. 1st party is what set the console apart. here sony has done a good Job of creating these new IP by its first party that doesn't need to be money hat at the mid/end console years. that is why you see new IP by sony constant while also milking core franchise.
MS do need to change that image about there first party and people believed black tusk game was exactly that. 1st party studio with new IP. And by canceling that they literally ignited the old fears again that first party that carry console in 2nd half would again just recycle old IP and again xb1 will dry out on exclusives new IP on 2nd half of its life span
It is a fact that MS have shown plenty of diverse new IP for XB1. you can't argue with that fact. but, the problem some have is those are paid 3rd party support that usually dies mid to end of console life cycle as they become to expensive to money hat. 1st party is what set the console apart. here sony has done a good Job of creating these new IP by its first party that doesn't need to be money hat at the mid/end console years. that is why you see new IP by sony constant while also milking core franchise.
MS do need to change that image about there first party and people believed black tusk game was exactly that. 1st party studio with new IP. And by canceling that they literally ignited the old fears again that first party that carry console in 2nd half would again just recycle old IP and again xb1 will dry out on exclusives new IP on 2nd half of its life span
supernormal
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It should. The game was flawed in arguably many ways but the core elements where still full and it had very nice production value. It has a lot of potential to expand on the universe and fix the problems they had on a sequel. To me it was the most surprising game of the launch titles pretty much based on the fact that every other title was hyped to death and under delivered and this one was getting a ton of flack and turned out to be alright.
I can't see Halo 3 getting an Anniversary remake. Especially if it is actually ported to the X1. I also can't see them releasing a mainline Halo 2 years after the release of Halo 5. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another spin off ala ODST (which is fine by me, I loved ODST) or something similar to bridge the gap between mainline titles.
tfur
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I was just going by the Wiki saying she was hired as such.
If she ended up working on tools, I can see why she left.
Banjo Kazooie - Banjo Tooie
Conker - Conker: Live and Reloaded
Perfect Dark - Perfect Dark Zero
Crackdown - Crackdown 2
ilomilo - studio went bust
Ninety Nine Nights - N3: Ninety Nine Nights II
Viva Pinata - Viva Pinata trouble in paradise
Yep, variation definitely would have helped. I, personally, am hoping they are moving ahead with a sequel. Add the ability to switch primary weapons, add some more stat building, add some more visual differences to equipment on your online character, etc.
you were wrong beast, just move on to the next battle and let it go
It's obvious just from looking at it that it has a great foundation to be built upon. No way should they throw in the towel, considering what it could be with proper time and attention. Can't wait to try it.
supernormal
Member
This is nothing but the truth.
Um, right- point is that the Halo 3 beta started 4 months after Crackdown released, ran for a month (or whatever) and then Halo 3 launched about 5 months after that.
So Halo 5 wouldn't necessarily be launching a year after the beta if they follow a similar roadmap.
Stinklez has come in several times to say she worked on the dev tools. Granted, I am sure that is a very important part of a games development.
Halo 3 came out 2007. So why would 2006 be the 10th anniversary release? I don't think it'll happen - it was already on the newer system, as opposed to H1/2 on the original Xbox.
NO one wants a Reach remake or needs an ODST remake (love ODST though).
You cannot play Halo 2 on Xbox over live anymore. Which is the only reason people play H2.
He said the beta will be in November of 2014 with 6-8 maps I believe and game will launch 2015 November .
that is 12 month gap between start of beta and the game. totally different from your example.
Nah, they should announce everything they ever plan to release up until around 2019 or so. You know, just to be safe. But even then, that might not be enough.
supernormal
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When you do, play on hard from the get go. The gameplay is waaay more satisfying when you gotta use all of the of the games mechanics to crowd control and stay alive.
Halo 3 Anniversary would have to happen in 2017, since it came out in 2007 and fits with the CEA and H2A (rumored) release of 10 years.
HALO WARS 2 = 2016! #BELIEVE
I think we'll get spinoff games like ODST instead of just HD editions of older games. I know they want to continue to expand the universe and there is literally an infinite amount of stories they could come up with that doesn't involve the Chief.
1.21Gigawatts
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Sony has DriveClub, Planetside2 and Infamous for the first half.
When is DeepDown coming?
vs. Titanfall, Kinect Sports Rivals and PvZ on Micrsofts side.
Thats pretty even I'd say. Even slightly better on Sonys side if you ask me.
Second half is Halo Anniversary 2, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon on MS side.
Only TheOrder1886 on Sony side now.
Do you think Sony will announce more stuff for that time? They better have more...
Noted, my friend. Thanks.
so you believe they were hyping halo 2 port by making everyone believe instead it was next new next gen halo?
you think that sounds like a great surprise for mass of people who bought XB1 for teased new halo game coming this November.?
That's not true. The campaign was awesome, if a little rushed. I think I must have spent 5+ hours getting the scarab gun and giant football. That was a fun day.
Anybody have a link to what went down with Southend?
I would kill for another ilomilo.
HigherLevel
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I don't think you understand Halo very well. After Halo 4, more Halo fans would rather play Halo 2 HD than Halo 5.
Yeah, Halo 2 is renown for having the best multiplayer in the series, a new Halo 5 beta packed in is enough to quench that thirst.
But wow, what a 2014 lineup they have, going all out with games.
Dragonborn
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That excuse just doesn't fly, Sony has three consoles to support and they still managed to put a ton of new IPs, even in 2013. This is MS' third gen, they aren't the new kid on the block anymore
I very much doubt that lol.
Lol ok bro. So you are saying MS has no confident in 343 . in that case I feel sorry for halo fans.
Goodacre0081
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anything else happen since the thread was closed last night?
I think it's a great surprise, and makes sense since they refuse to call it Halo 5. It's part of a transition to Halo 5 if the beta is included with it. And I'd much rather H5 be 2015 so they get time to beta test the shit out of it with feedback. Because H4 was a disappointment.
Campaign cannot be played over Live, which was the problem. Halo is meant to be played co-op for maximum fun.
It is rad if you like Halo, and I like Halo, but why would Halo 3 need a remaster? I don't like the art style all that much personally, but really it's only issue was water tessellation quality (was such a cool effect, but it could look odd at times), resolution (and AA), and framerate.
Some upped resolution with AA, 60 fps, and higher res textures (and I really hope an HD remake of whatever sort doesn't get rid of the water tesselation) are really mostly all it needs. I don't think it really needs a complete rehaul like Halo 2.
And while I can see an annualization happening, I don't expect it. I think we're more likely to get something like Halo Wars 2 in 2016 than Halo 3A if anything (especially since that's not even the anniversary anyway).
damn you're an annoying troll
Dragonborn
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There is no way H2A sells anywhere near what a full fledged Halo title would. It's great for the hardcore Halo fans but for the general public, they'll just see it as a game they played 10 years ago.