Or they'll just see it as a 10 year old game that they haven't played. In either case, I think you are right, this is a megaton only for the hardcore.
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Phil Spencer: Still have flagship games in development; "new IP critical"
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Or they'll just see it as a 10 year old game that they haven't played. In either case, I think you are right, this is a megaton only for the hardcore.
So much hate for Halo 4, I liked it and I'd much rather be playing Halo 5 (still it's good 343 get more time to work on it) than Halo 2HD. Still it'll just be great to revisit the Halo 2 with updated graphics. MS should just release Halo Anthology with updated graphics for 1 & 2 and with all the Halo (excluding ODST and Wars) games for Xbox One. That would be exciting, I'd pay $80 for it.
What the fuck are bitching about. He clearly stated halo fans are moe exited about the port than halo 5 due to halo 4.
And that is why they are teasing a port over next gen halo. This is what he clearly is saying. How the fuck am I trolling?
I'd buy it for that reason alone
These were the last sales figures announced for Ryse in comparison and it was neck and neck as of December with DR3. Obviously that could be a different story now but it definitely wasn't a flop. Personally I thought it was very fun, as famousmortimer said both Knack and Ryse deserved higher rating.
The link won't show but just search VGLeaks sales numbers for Xbox One launch games.
Dragonborn
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How much did Crackdown sell?
gamechanger87
Member
I think around 1.5M
I thought it was more around 1.7 million.
More than 1.5m closer to 2m i believe. With minimum marketing.
I am not ashamed to say that I bought Crackdown for the Halo 3 beta, but stayed for Pacific City.
We're not going to say it's a kinect game, but it's a kinect game.
at the end of 07 it was 1.5 million
it was a new ip anyways so how are these comparable ? the halo community will eat h2a+h5 beta up
I just want a sequel to Conkers Bad Fur Day
TheRealTalker
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this I sure am more hyped about HD Halo 2 multiplayer then the next Halo
Had very fond memories with Halo 2... lots of great glitch finds too
of course there are people who are more 343 industries fans though (likely higher then us old guys)
PanicFreak
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TitanFall is going to be the next big thing. It's not exclusive but it will have exclusive marketing and that matters.
Doubt it'll ever happen. Nintendo disowned them after that, and even after MS bought them they put out a remake of it and censored everything.
There's not market for it. It's kiddie looking but kids can't buy it.
Japanmanx3
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Dragonborn
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Titanfall will be the next big Xbox exclusive, maybe on par with Gears but probably less. The next big thing will be something like Destiny.
Now if Titanfall 2 is multiplat with an SP campaign, it may become the next big thing but not now
By any chance, any clue if MS gonna team up with Itagaki this gen?
I know, but it was such an entertaining game. I remember doing that refugee multiplayer game where one side was the teddies trying to shoot the unarmed refugees trying to escape through a tunnel back on the N64.
The Xbox Version MP was interestng, but from what I remember lacked the fun modes from the original in favour of some vehicle warfare or something.
Dragonborn
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He's alive!
I wish he'd post at least a list of third party studios working on X1 exclusives with some vague timeframe. Heck, even just a number would do fine.
Banjo-Kazooie
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MS doesn't own the ilomilo IP anyways, Southend did, so who knows what is up with it now :/
Banjo-Kazooie
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Deep Silver(publisher) screwed them somehow on The Citadel according to their old founder AFAIK
I'm not one of them. I'd rather move forward and play Halo 5. I can't wait.
I can't find any trademark for Ilomilo in the US.
Banjo-Kazooie
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MS doesn't own any trademarks, for that I know, and one of Southend's co-founders stated on linkedIn that they owned the ilomilo IP, so I can only assume he knew if his own company owned it (hopefully)
.edit: It was their co-owner, not co-founder, apologies. Here is the linkedIn with the excerpt I am talking about: http://se.linkedin.com/in/kimnordstrom
"Responsible for all development including pitches and R&D. I spent much time on Sales, HR, Finance and Strategy. Took the studio up to 40+ and profitable. Signed publishing and development deals for the company. Established the strategy for the company and executed it. Assisted on building up a design department later merged into Tactel. Left Southend when it was profitable and working IP's (Ilomilo) owned by the company."
He left in 2010, so as of that time they owned the IP
Steverulez
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What excuse? Microsoft did focus on Kinect and undeniably, it was something that worked for them, considering the sales of the device and the console from when it came out.
There were new IPs for Kinect: Kinect Sports, Dance Central, The Gunstringer, Kinect Adventures, Joy Ride, Kinectimals (they own all but Dance Central)
Just because they aren't games you wanted to play doesn't mean they don't exist and they aren't investing. They also did stuff like State of Decay, Iron Brigade and Crimson Alliance for XBLA (I could go and research more but i'd rather not)
They then spent time at the end of the last generation making new studios: Lift London (showing their games to the press this week not Xbox One games though as far as I know), Black Tusk, MS Victoria (shut down), Team Dakota.
Microsoft have been making new IPs in small, medium and large varieties. They've ramped up their efforts for AAA new IPs on Xbox One so far starting with Ryse, continuing with Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive and other smaller games (not going to list them)
In 2015 and 2016 they might stop altogether, but from whats coming out of Microsoft right now, I think its presumptuous to say they're not investing in new IP.
Do Microsoft need to make more new IPs? Unquestionably, yes. Are they currently doing so? In my opinion, currently they are yes, even if "Shangheist" isn't in development.
To add to others, I just checked Ilomilo and it says C Southend Interactive on the title screen for the game.
So halo fans were speculating and then were confirmed by MS that halo was coming out this year. I don't get where you are taking this ?
it was clear as a day especially with them confirming that halo was coming this fall that everyone and there mother were expecting to play a shiny new halo on their shiny new system.
You can't argue with fact. This is exactly what happened. if you want to justify delay for whatever reason, that's fine. but people were expecting Halo 5 not a decade old port.
here the the full conversation for perspective
yep , totally sounds like a decade old port. You know, hyping up old port when people are expecting true next gen game is a marketing genius idea?
You seem to be the only one that cares about it.
He's not wrong. He's not right either. If Halo 5 is coming, why not play H2A in the meantime? We all know what we're getting and loved it.
SwiftDeath
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Eh some of the mods in that thread thought the leaker might have been making a joke. IE no way in hell MS drop kinect, no way to get price down without doing so. Dropping the ODD doesn't reduce BOM by more than 15-20 bucks or so I would imagine. There are detailed breakdowns elsewhere but I can't be bothered to look into those.But basically from dropping the ODD alone there is no way they reduce the price 100 USD, maybe 50 USD
What I think it could suggest if it's real is that it's in fact sort of subsidized. Yes MS are saving a little money dropping the ODD but they are then creating a SKU without any used games. Publishers may be willing to subsidize that model or give higher cuts to sales or something way out of left field that I can't even dream of to kill used games
Steverulez
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Well its not unreasonable to think that by the end of the year MS might have reduced the cost of the components, combine that with taking out the disc tray might make up the drop to $400. Its profit making at the moment so theres room to move...
yankeehater
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Do we know how much profit it makes? Also MS would save not only the cost of the disk drive but also what ever fee they pay to the Blu-ray consortium for each console.
Yes, I am the only one who would care if it's halo next gen vs halo 2 port being released this holiday season. Obviously no one else cares
Dildo Saggins
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Whatever MS is doing right now is working on me.
Halo 2:AE CTF on Zanzibar.....I NEED IT.
I was literally on the eve of buying another PS3 and committing to Sony for the 4th generation in a row. Now, I think things have finally come full circle and I'm about to jump ship.
Halo 2:AE CTF on Zanzibar.....I NEED IT.
I was literally on the eve of buying another PS3 and committing to Sony for the 4th generation in a row. Now, I think things have finally come full circle and I'm about to jump ship.
SEGAvangelist
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I suspect MS believes an all digital customer is worth more than the possible financial loss of the lower priced console.
yankeehater
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No one else is freaking out about it in this thread.
BruiserBear
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Nothing in that trailer they showed at E3 looked like Halo 2 to me. If their Halo game for 2014 is Halo 2 I'm gonna be annoyed.
I have plenty to play regardless, but just saying, that trailer shown certainly seemed to indicate they were announcing a new Halo game.
Oh Zanzibar... I miss that map
SwiftDeath
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Yes that's a far more succinct way to state what I meant
Who knows though? Certainly interesting times for Gaf though
Uno Venova
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I thought the Halo Xbox One trailer had a new version that specifically said Halo 5?
And was that trailer of MC in a cloth sheet a scene from Halo 2?
And was that trailer of MC in a cloth sheet a scene from Halo 2?
That version wasn't official. It was allegedly from the company that made the video, but AFAIK, there was no confirmation from that company either.
I just can't imagine their first $399 console is going to be a disc less one. If so that really says a lot that they are dedicated towards that DD future they envisioned in the first place. NPD less and less relevant. How long before they get to a $399 SKU with disc. Seems crazy. The only reason I would never consider one isn't due to the fact it is DD only I don't really care about it, but knowing I would have to wait a long time to match retail deal prices. I'm not going to wait on great games forever to get in on some good prices. I know MS says they are working on it I just simply see it as how it is now.
Freaking out?
So if I find a post of someone being down because of delay in these threads can I call you a lier?
And you are saying there would be no media coverage or complain if the expected next gen halo is delayed a year?
Do we know how owns the ilomilo IP?
What? Why not ODST? I'll have you know that's a good many people's favorite campaign. Why would you NOT?
statham
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I doubt the 1tb LE console is going to be above $499, I say by next holiday we will see a $399 digital, $449 standard and the $499 1tb edition or titanfall bundle.
Syphon Filter
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If that happens i think its because its the only way to drive cost down maybe. MS did deal already actually with power star gold the other day and even Crimson Dragon. I think they will do Steam style deals and it wont be long.