That's what I was thinking, there is no reason for me to touch this if it is just early access to the prologue.
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Game Informer played through MGS Ground Zeroes' main mission in [1.5hrs, not rushing]
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That's what I was thinking, there is no reason for me to touch this if it is just early access to the prologue.
TheKastorian
Member
Damn. Sucks if it's that short. At least I hope it's highly replayable.
$5 per hour, $2 per FPS. Get your facts straight son.
It's not a full game. It's a demo.
I spent 15 hours on the Bravely Default demo and that was free. Just like a demo should be.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
That was an entire game with a full story and such,
This is a single mission in a single medium sized location. And the story is only to serve as a prologue to TPP, we already know exactly what happens in GZ's story.
Inferno313
Banned
MGS V: The Phantom Pain is the full game.
MGS V: Ground Zeroes is what they're referring to as the "prologue" to Phantom Pain, it's going to be a smaller game that will lead into Phantom Pain.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Oh definitely, it's a way for the dev to bring in some money while the big game is still in production.
I'm just wondering what's gonna happen with Phantom Pain if they split up the narrative like this. If they don't include GZ with the game, then people who skipped on it won't know what's going on. If they do include it, then they will probably piss off the people who paid upwards of $40 to play what is essentially sounding like MGS5's Tanker Chapter.
I suppose they could include a stripped down version of GZ at the beginning of Phantom Pain, with none of the side or bonus missions, or just make a really looooonnng intro cinematic showing the plot highlights.
I dunno, it's pretty messy any way you look at it.
Graphics Horse
Member
GZ is basically a short epilogue to Peace Walker which leads up to the 9 year coma. Phantom Pain is the main game, set 9 years later.
Let's wait and see what they meant by "through" before jumping into conclusions. And even if the main mission 4 hours long, you guys forgot that side-ops are side missions that adds to the main mission and reveals more about the main story. Side-Ops & Extra-Ops are two different modes. The latter are just bonus missions that are not story related.
Neuromancer
Member
It's all relative.
For instance I've probably spent 4 hours playing the Just Cause 2 demo.
But $40/4h vs. $60/10+h doesn't really work, ratio wise. $40 feels like charging too much. For $15, I'd be all over this. I would be counting down the days. At $30 for the download next-gen premium cost, or $40 for a retail version, I'm out.
When people pick it up at full price I reckon I could snap up a copy for $15 within a month of release, anyway. But at $15-20 launch, where I see the value, I'd get it day one.
Perfect response, lol.
Ground zeroes is basically what the tanker scenario was in MGS2.
A prologue.
Konami is splitting it into two games, because they got away with it selling zone of the Enders, since most people only bought that game for the mgs2 demo
fuzzyreactor
Banned
unless i can get this for $20, im gonna have to pass
what is the retail price?
what is the retail price?
Not everyone wants to go digital and even then the 20$ (last-gen digital) is a little high for the amount of content that some people feel is in the game.
Both are signature titles and make up MGSV, but Ground Zeroes is the prologue, consider it the same as the Tanker mission from MGS2.
Phantom Pain is the main game and is much larger and expansive.
Ah okay cool. Thanks. That's supposed to be open world right? Could be cool...
But for a bite-sized game they should charge bit-sized prices.
Unfortunately I suspect Phantom Pain will be $60. I would be shocked if it wasn't. It's not a Part 1 and Part 2 situation, more of a Prologue and Full Game type deal.
You're right. So, I was somewhere in-between.
Monty Mole
Member
Nope. There are platform-exclusive preorder missions AND format-based exclusives (physical will have them, nothing extra for the digital.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732382
The bonus is you get to sell it on eBay after 4 hours.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
It isn't even an issue of comprehension (unless it is, for you). It's hardly up for interpretation.
We had four hours of exclusive hands-on time with Ground Zeroes, which we used to play through the main mission and experiment with extra modes.
Where's the debate? If you want to argue something, argue that they had four hours. That they might of pushed through the game to complete the main mission in time, and it isn't representative of the full length under normal circumstances. But try to argue something relevant. The word "through" means what it means.
Of course Ground Zeroes is going to be included in the full MGSV: The Phantom Pain release, they would be excluding potential customers otherwise.
Konami is being intentionally vague on the subject. If they flat-out say that GZ will be included with the MGSV:TPP release, than that directly reduces the value of the original GZ release.
They are already having enough trouble justifying GZ's existence at that price point as it is.
Its like the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition. Square was having enough trouble marketing that game at that price point with the existence of the PC port, they essentially had to sweep the PC version under the rug during the marketing campaign.
Konami is being intentionally vague on the subject. If they flat-out say that GZ will be included with the MGSV:TPP release, than that directly reduces the value of the original GZ release.
They are already having enough trouble justifying GZ's existence at that price point as it is.
Its like the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition. Square was having enough trouble marketing that game at that price point with the existence of the PC port, they essentially had to sweep the PC version under the rug during the marketing campaign.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
is ps4 digital $20 as well?
Are you sure you're talking about real time and not in-game time? Did you play it on easy?
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
I'm going to bookmark this thread and call out each of you who back down from your stance of not buying it within the first week.
actually it's a classic gaf thread full of assuming the most negative outcome, which will be wiped away on release, or possibly in a few minutes, that there is a whole lot more to Ground Zeroes.
Or I will dip myself in chocolate and run through a hippie festival
Graphics Horse
Member
Batzi, you like thinking about this stuff, so how about you give a brief idea of what happens in this ~8 hour (?) game which is all set on a single open map the size of Groznyj Grad. It seems like there must be a HELL of a lot of backtracking, no?
$29.99 for Xbone/PS4 digital.
What I don't understand is why they just didn't make this prologue free... It makes so much sense to me if they made the prologue free, espicially if it ends on a cliffhanger. It will only mean more people will be left wondering how it will be continued and be more likely to buy the sequel.
Still it doesn't mean the main mission is >4 hours, maybe they were only allowed to play a portion of it or something? Won't surprise me at all if it is time frame we're looking at though...
Still it doesn't mean the main mission is >4 hours, maybe they were only allowed to play a portion of it or something? Won't surprise me at all if it is time frame we're looking at though...
me read on the situation too, and if it's not bundled then I will pick up GZ once it goes cheap
KojiKnight
Member
Same for me, only replace 2 and 3 with 1... That Pizza Hut demo disc <3 Spent hours just playing with the Nikita Launcher, was disappointed it wasn't so quickly available in the full release.
(edit) in the end it doesn't bother me much since I already planned on skipping this since it lacks Hayter... We'll see how Phantom Pain feels before I make a final decision on it.