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2016 Summer Olympics |OT2| August 5th - August 21st

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I fear we may have problems in the ending cerimony today. Rio is suffering with winds of 91 Km/h (57 miles /h) and it may rain at the time of the cerimony.

I hope it gets better soon.
 
That's insane. East Germany beating the US. The peds must have been flowing that games.

Well while of course systematic doping was on another level in East doping was widely used also in west. Anyone believing otherwise is really just denying the truth. When doping tests were still in their infancy there was pretty huge appeal in doping especially as you knew eastern athletes doped.
 
It always surprises me that US doesn't actually dominate shooting when they are almost drowning in guns and one of the big reasons I see people stating for support of second amendment is sports.

USA shooting team way underperformed this year. You can't use a single Olympics as a measure of competitive shooting interest. A tiny snap shot on one set of tournaments is a horrible sample size.
 
Well while of course systematic doping was on another level in East doping was widely used also in west. Anyone believing otherwise is really just denying the truth. When doping tests were still in their infancy there was pretty huge appeal in doping especially as you knew eastern athletes doped.

Yeah, the Olympics really were a part of the Cold War. Glad most of the records have fallen now. The drug use nowadays is so much more sophisticated.
 
Well while of course systematic doping was on another level in East doping was widely used also in west. Anyone believing otherwise is really just denying the truth. When doping tests were still in their infancy there was pretty huge appeal in doping especially as you knew eastern athletes doped.
But people told me that only the evil commies cheated
 
Yeah, the Olympics really were a part of the Cold War. Glad most of the records have fallen now. The drug use nowadays is so much more sophisticated.

there was definitely steroids and stuff, but they also went out and found these people and they basically trained all day everyday just for the olympics.

Things were just different back then, Cold War and all that.
 
It always surprises me that US doesn't actually dominate shooting when they are almost drowning in guns and one of the big reasons I see people stating for support of second amendment is sports.

Germany doesn't share America's gun fetish but there's a huge competitive shooting culture over here. "Schützenvereine", sports clubs for competitive shooting are everywhere.
 
It always surprises me that US doesn't actually dominate shooting when they are almost drowning in guns and one of the big reasons I see people stating for support of second amendment is sports.

Americans love to own guns. It doesn't make them skilled marksmen though. Most shoot like Storm Troopers.
 
The US had a good competitive overall games. Tied 2012 with the most golds since 84 and gobbled up the most medals since 84 as well. 4th straight games with over 100 total medals and 51 total medals difference to 2nd place is the most since 84 as well. With that said, I think the US kinda underperformed. We don't talk about it much because the US wins so many medals, but if you analyze it, some NGB left something to be desired.

- Boxing got sponsorship from Under Armour last year and expectations were for a gold medal in men's and another medal or two
- Rugby was just a big letdown. Both men and women's. Men losing to Argentina and women to Fiji in pool play really complicated their path. Both sides can play with any country in the world, but dropped the ball against inferior teams.
- Badminton and Table tennis showed no progress whatsoever.
- Men and Women's volleyball choked. Beach volleyball did what it could given the talent there and the unlock cross in the QFs for the men.
- Men's water polo sucked, didn't even get out of pool play
- Women's field hockey beat superior teams and lost to an inferior one. Reminds me of ruby
- Women's soccer just did not perform
- Wrestling left a lot to be desired. Took 2 20 year olds to save the face of USA wrestling. Coming into the games expectations were for at least 1 medal in greco, 3-4+ in freestyle, and 3-4 in women's. Boy did we miss that mark.
- Marti Malloy lost to a much inferior judoka that I think she always beats
- Men's gymnastics choked, including the two guys who had the best score going into the finals for one of the apparatus

Probably other stuff. I will cue my inner GSP and not be impressed with USOC performance.

Not for the foreseeable future, unless Russia invades the countries that were part of the former Soviet Union and make them its own again. Then you'll see Russia and US duke it out at the top of the medal race like the old days.

USSR used to dominate the medal tally back in the old days. East Germany and US battled for 2nd place.

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I'm incredibly proud of our performance, even if our judoka were mostly terrible and our Women's Handball and VB (both indoor and beach) teams choked hard.

I'll make sure to remember these moments well, because I'm not sure if we'll ever get this many Golds in a single year ever again... Unless we start having great athletes in sports in which you can get a million medals by yourself :P

Wasn't that supposed to be that doper Cielo? ;)

I'm sure Brazil will be fine in the games going forward. You guys hosted a great olympic games and I'm sure sport awareness will be higher now.

Only complaint of mine is the boos at inopportune times, other than that, I think the country of Brazil did very well.
 
USA shooting team way underperformed this year. You can't use a single Olympics as a measure of competitive shooting interest. A tiny snap shot on one set of tournaments is a horrible sample size.

Last time US was at the top of medal table in shooting was in Los Angeles 1984.

there was definitely steroids and stuff, but they also went out and found these people and they basically trained all day everyday just for the olympics.

Things were just different back then, Cold War and all that.

Yeah. People forget this often. it wasn't just doping that made Soviets and East Germans so good at olympics. It was huge sport programs that basically scouted the whole population for best talent and then put them in 4 year training camps with only target being winning medals at olympics.
 
Why is the USOC doing this "Thank you Rio" thing? Is it because Lochte embarrassed the whole nation? I don't remember this ever being done.

With all due respect, you don't know much about Badminton or Table Tennis, do you? Just the thought of Americans getting even close to a medal in those events is hilarious.

I know a lot more than you'd think. I'm talking about getting to the QFs or in the case of table tennis, just a couple of Ws. Iris Wang did win a couple of matches in badminton, so she did well, but the team overall did not.
 
USSR used to dominate the medal tally back in the old days. East Germany and US battled for 2nd place.

I'm not sure when your old days are. My old days were the 60's and 70's. US either won or was within 10 medals of USSR in 64, 68, 72. 80 was in Moscow which the US boycotted, and USSR in turn boycotted in 84 in LA.
 
With all due respect, you don't know much about Badminton or Table Tennis, do you? Just the thought of Americans getting even close to a medal in those events is hilarious.

In table tennis we usually "rent an olympian" from China. However, home grown California product Lily Zhang is only 20 and has made great strides since her debut in London. I still have hope for her progress over the next few olympics.
 
In table tennis we usually "rent an olympian" from China. However, home grown California product Lily Zhang is only 20 and has made great strides since her debut in London. I still have hope for her progress over the next few olympics.

Lily Zhang delayed starting school to make a go at these games. She's gonna start school either this fall or in the spring and probably go the way of Ariel Hsing, who was actually the more talented of the two.
 
Lily Zhang delayed starting school to make a go at these games. She's gonna start school either this fall or in the spring and probably go the way of Ariel Hsing, who was actually the more talented of the two.

Yeah I guess the biggest issue we have is Badminton and Table Tennis not being an NCAA sport so once a player goes to college they lose that training that other athletes can continue at the collegiate level.
 
CANADIAN PERFORMANCE REVIEW

Overall, this was a very good Games for Canada. 4 gold medals is our best performance since 1992 in Barcelona, and with 22 medals, we tied our result in the 1996 Atlanta Games for the best performance in a non-boycotted Olympics. Perhaps the silver/bronze ratio wasn't optimal, but whatever. Plus, the way the Games go, we could easily have gotten a few more gold medals with just slightly more favourable conditions (Eric Lamaze was excruciatingly close to repeating for gold in individuals show-jumping, and it's easy to imagine Oleksiak beating Sara Sjostrom to turn her silver medal into another gold; hell, if Catharine Pendrel hadn't had to work her way from #25 to #3 in mountain biking, she might easily have contended for gold instead of getting bronze).

But probably the best part of the Games for Canada was the debut of some really promising young talent whose potential suggests that the 2020 Games could go even better. One can imagine Oleksiak and Andre De Grasse collecting at least four individual gold medals between them in Tokyo, if things go right. And there are other on-the-rise talent like Taylor Ruck who could also impress more going forward. Particularly key to bulking up the medal count, we finally seem to have a good swim team in the making. The track and field team is likewise showing real promise -- we got our first gold in a field sport since 1932, and the 100m and 200m results are the best since 1996 and 1928, respectively. If we could just get a solid gymnastics team...

The main exception to the generally strong Games was the boating sports. The Rowing/Canoe/Kayak branch of the Canadian Olympic Committee was an utter failure, which is egregious when you consider that it's the second-most expensive branch of the committee (after, obviously, Hockey Canada).

I'll be interested to see how many of our four gold medalists from Rio return to Tokyo. I know Rosie MacLennan and Derek Drouin have already said they plan to; people tend to assume Oleksiak will, and I'd bet on it, but you never know; I don't know what Erica Wiebe's plans are.

Among the non-medalists, I really hope to see Emily Batty on the team in Tokyo, after placing fourth in mountain biking this time around, particularly since it sounds like Catharine Pendrel won't be back.
 
Why is the USOC doing this "Thank you Rio" thing? Is it because Lochte embarrassed the whole nation? I don't remember this ever being done.



I know a lot more than you'd think. I'm talking about getting to the QFs or in the case of table tennis, just a couple of Ws. Iris Wang did win a couple of matches in badminton, so she did well, but the team overall did not.

In table tennis we usually "rent an olympian" from China. However, home grown California product Lily Zhang is only 20 and has made great strides since her debut in London. I still have hope for her progress over the next few olympics.

You "rent" Olympians?

Man, I wished table tennis and badminton were more popular in the US. Would challenge the Asian dominance. Germany's table tennis men's team is on the decline with Boll most likely not playing Tokyo and with a huge cliff after Ovtcharov. The woman's side looks better but keeping up with China is just impossible.

Badminton has Denmark, the UK and Germany competing to some degree but more attention from the US could do wonders here as well.

I just wasn't expecting an American progressing to the QF stage since there weren't any signs to expect that. The odd surprise? Sure. But not expected.
 
CANADIAN PERFORMANCE REVIEW

Overall, this was a very good Games for Canada. 4 gold medals is our best performance since 1992 in Barcelona, and with 22 medals, we tied our result in the 1996 Atlanta Games for the best performance in a non-boycotted Olympics. Perhaps the silver/bronze ratio wasn't optimal, but whatever. Plus, the way the Games go, we could easily have gotten a few more gold medals with just slightly more favourable conditions (Eric Lamaze was excruciatingly close to repeating for gold in individuals show-jumping, and it's easy to imagine Oleksiak beating Sara Sjostrom to turn her silver medal into another gold; hell, if Catharine Pendrel hadn't had to work her way from #25 to #3 in mountain biking, she might easily have contended for gold instead of getting bronze).

But probably the best part of the Games for Canada was the debut of some really promising young talent whose potential suggests that the 2020 Games could go even better. One can imagine Oleksiak and Andre De Grasse collecting at least four individual gold medals between them in Tokyo, if things go right. And there are other on-the-rise talent like Taylor Ruck who could also impress more going forward. Particularly key to bulking up the medal count, we finally seem to have a good swim team in the making. The track and field team is likewise showing real promise -- we got our first gold in a field sport since 1932, and the 100m and 200m results are the best since 1996 and 1928, respectively. If we could just get a solid gymnastics team...

The main exception to the generally strong Games was the boating sports. The Rowing/Canoe/Kayak branch of the Canadian Olympic Committee was an utter failure, which is egregious when you consider that it's the second-most expensive branch of the committee (after, obviously, Hockey Canada).

I'll be interested to see how many of our four gold medalists from Rio return to Tokyo. I know Rosie MacLennan and Derek Drouin have already said they plan to; people tend to assume Oleksiak will, and I'd bet on it, but you never know; I don't know what Erica Wiebe's plans are.

Among the non-medalists, I really hope to see Emily Batty on the team in Tokyo, after placing fourth in mountain biking this time around, particularly since it sounds like Catharine Pendrel won't be back.


Well said....wooo Canada.

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I know that this is kind of racist.

And the American representative is actually....American born and raised.

The racist part is where people of Chinese descent are in there that were never actually Chinese.

I only recognize Luxembourg, Canada, and USA. Chinese born player plays for the former two countries, so the image is not all that wrong. Just needs to be updated.
 
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I know that this is kind of racist.

There are reasons for this. Take the German Han Ying for instance.

She's a defender. Which in China already means you're either the best defender on the planet in order to play for the team ot you're just a trainings partner. So in her case she had to leave China in order to be a pro. That's the case for many Chinese-born athletes. You're either the best of the best or you leave China.
 
People need to stop using the word "choke".Sometimes teams/athletes just lose and at this level almost noone is guaranteed success.
 
That was incredible. I actually had to go through a couple of tissues, damn manipulative music.

I have to go back and watch the first 9 days because I missed them. Ironically, that's the week I watched the games more closely, from morning to night, so I imagine it would have affected me the most.

edit: doing that right now.
 
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