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I can't get past that. Also, I liked true lies. It was big dumb fun.

 

[Bucket Mouse]

True Lies is shit and has always been shit.

 

[Schattenjäger]

Movie was decent

Hated the pacing

Tom Arnold made the movie

Not worth fighting over the internet

Now if this thread was about Big Trouble in Little China...

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Truth here. WTF OP?

Sorry OP but I'm not retconning my enjoyment of JC's last flick with Arnold.

Nope.

 

[BruceCLea]

Get the fuck out. Sorry OP. You wrong.
And your math sucks.

 

[Matt]

And how does it do that?

The scene is not realistic

Tom Arnold tells him he is out of line.

And of course the scene isn't realistic, but comparing it to a real couple's role play is ridiculous.

I like True Lies a good deal, but I always knew Harry was completely in the wrong with he was doing.

 

[TTG]

If this movie is racist, so is every other movie with foreign villains. BRB, writing a diatribe on why Rocky 4 should be condemned.

 

[KahooTs]

Hell yeah I remember this movie, it is great.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I guess this PC shit will keep it from getting a bluray release any time soon.

It's a movie of the time, and I love some Arnold action cheese.

 

[TheClimaxan]

Lies detected.

True Lies is just a fun movie, and I watched it maybe a year ago and it held up pretty fucking well.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I've always liked how Arnold's character just flips a switch and murders people.

"YOU'RE A SPY?"

*shoots 50 people*

"Yes."

 

[cchum]

Movie was decent

Hated the pacing

Tom Arnold made the movie

Not worth fighting over the internet

Now if this thread was about Big Trouble in Little China...

Start one...

 

[Madness]

Great movie.

I do remember the protests from Arab American groups when it was released too. Unfortunate and lazy tropes.

Also Back to the Future did the same thing too. We forgave it as well, although it came earlier.

The thing is though, the trope was born out of the fact Islamic extremism was on the sharp rise. Hell do you not remember to listening to Biggie lyrics about the world trade? This was pre-9/11 as well.

I remember watching National Lampoon's Vacation maybe last year, as soon as Roy Wally comes, he asks if the terrorists were Arab.

They played on stereotypes sure. But I loved True Lies. Holds up well today. Perfect mix of comedy, action, thrilling elements. Cameron needs to continue with non-Avatar movies again. Compare how Terminator 2 became the blueprint of blockbusters for a long time.

 

[entremet]

Tom Arnold tells him he is out of line.

And of course the scene isn't realistic, but comparing it to a real couple's role play is ridiculous.

I like True Lies a good deal, but I always knew Harry was completely in the wrong with that he was doing.

I always saw that scene as showing how Harry's double life as a spy had corrupted him somewhat.

Deep. Bro. It's deep.

 

[Matt]

I always saw that scene as showing how Harry's double life as a spy had corrupted him somewhat.

Deep. Bro. It's deep.

Eh...maybe? Considering we never see him pre-spy that's a hard interpretation to justify I think.

 

[entremet]

Eh...maybe? Considering we never see him pre-spy that's a hard interpretation to justify I think.

Well I don't we need to see him pre-spy. He's been doing the work for years by then. Hard to imagine his conscience wasn't seared somewhat from that line of work.

 

[Matt]

Well I don't we need to see him pre-spy. He's been doing the work for years by then. Hard to imagine his conscience wasn't seared somewhat from that line of work.

Like I said, maybe. But mostly that just seems like looking for a reason to justify his actions more than the movie presenting anything directly to support it.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

This movie is great, and the jokes are great.

I love Harry piloting the harrier jet. The camera work, especially the beginning, was great.

 

[ScientificNinja]

This is nuts. I fucking loved True Lies.

"You know my handcuffs?"

"mhmm..."

"I picked them."

 

[A-V-B]

It's not his best film, but I always thought it was a lot of fun for the most part. It's not a really serious film, except for that scene where Curtis goes nuts in the interrogation room (great performance btw.)

 

[Verano]

thread backfire obvy....anyways, I liked True Lies a lot except the cringey the strip thang...like why

 

[VenomousCoffee]

I have one great memory from this movie: In the theater, during the strip tease scene, someone shouted "What the fuck happened to the plot?!"


The rest is totally forgettable or, yes, just dumb and racist.

 

[entremet]

Like I said, maybe. But mostly that just seems like looking for a reason to justify his actions more than the movie presenting anything directly to support it.

I don't know, being a hardened spy living and double life for decades doesn't seem conducive to being a fully integrated and psychologically healthy individual.

For example, if that Arnold's character from Twins, it would not be believable since that character was a gentle giant basically.

 

[Matt]

I don't know, being a hardened spy living and double life for decades doesn't seem conducive to being a fully integrated and psychologically healthy individual.

For example, if that Arnold's character from Twins, it would not be believable since that character was a gentle giant basically.

Right, but it seems like a nonviolent, psychologically healthy individual wouldn't try to get into the killer spy business in the first place.

 

[cchum]

I have one great memory from this movie: In the theater, during the strip tease scene, someone shouted "What the fuck happened to the plot?!"


The rest is totally forgettable or, yes, just dumb and racist.

Well I was sitting in Star Wars clone wars... and a guy jumped up yelling "yeah, that's right Yoda..." when he came out at the end.

The movie could've been just the Corvette scene for me.

Pure genius

I'd watch it

 

[soul creator]

Speaking of problematic movies from 1994, watching the first Ace Ventura nowadays is...something.

 

[shira]

The movie could've been just the Corvette scene for me.

Pure genius

 

[Schattenjäger]

Start one...

Lol no I'm saying the opposite

That sort of thread would be sacrilegious

 

[Sheroking]

Fun movie.

James Cameron made Avatar and Titanic.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Must be some ultra sensitive millinial crap.

I'm 39.

 

[JonRedcorn]

This thread relinquished a tad bit of sanity back for neogaf. Had this gone OP's direction all hope would have been lost. So these posters are human after all.

 

[JonRedcorn]

I'm 39.

And still wearing hoodies from aeropostal no wonder you made this topic. Nice edit from 40 cool guy.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

And still wearing hoodies from aeropostal no wonder you made this topic. Nice edit from 40 cool guy.

It's Old Navy

The Rock is better than True Lies.

I think I'd agree.

 

[The Hamburglar]

Op you're fired.

 

[demon]

True Lies is a really fun flick, if not pretty dumb. One of the better action-comedy movies. Paxton really elevates it.

I find it a lot more enjoyable, and immensely more memorable, than Avatar.

 

[Stinkles]

There's literally nothing wrong with the OP's critiques. they're all valid. It's all more or less based on what was spammed at the screen, but the "outrageousness' falls apart when you put it in the context of the period and the other movies that were out there. This movie's dated social horrors are simply exemplary of the times, and it's only notable because it was successful. It was airing in theaters at the same time of plenty of tonally identical guff.

And yet, there were other movies, Robocop, Gremlins, etc, that kinda knew what era they were in, and managed to transcend it by telling stories that were in the same vein, but layers above their competitors. Like how Vanilla Ice and Kendrick are both successful rappers.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

What exactly is so creepy and gross about what Harry Tasker did?

Hahaha what. Really.

If you're gonna hate on the movie - at least hate on the pacing as that was the worst part

I didn't hate on the movie (I still called it likable) and I did mention the pacing.

I even put pictures in the goddamn OP so you guys might be enticed to read more than three paragraphs this time!

(Also walked in the other room to make sure the hoodie was Old Navy. That's research.)

 

[Discotheque]

The Rock is better than True Lies.

yeah overall I agree pretty easily. Although True Lies has much better action scenes in it tbh.

 

[Schattenjäger]

I'm 39.

True Lies

(You originally wrote 40)

 

[AngmarsKing701]

Movie is a helluva lot of fun. Still scratching my head that there's no bluray of this.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I'm pretty sure Bobby is on a mission to destroy all the things I love. Next week - Big Trouble in Little China.

Nah, I like Big Trouble way more than I like True Lies. Big Trouble is also nowhere near Carpenter's worst movie.

But True Lies is definitely Cameron's worst.

what is a dad joke movie? I've never heard this before?

It's a movie that feels like it's made up of shitty corny-ass dad jokes.

I think you've vastly overthought this.

Nah.

Don't you besmirch the name of Temple of Doom, Bobby! I won't stand for it! *remains seated*

I really like Temple of Doom, and have argued for it on this board multiple times. Still think it's the 2nd best Indy movie.

Amazing John Williams score, too. I mean, Amazing-er than usually.

(You originally wrote 40)

I know, I'm almost 40, left out the almost, then went back and just put my actual age in there.

 

[whatsinaname]

I won't even get into the other ludicrous points you made and focus on this..

What exactly is so creepy and gross about what Harry Tasker did? Married couples role play all the time ..
Grant it.. he took advantage of his spy privileges but it's a movie and the scene is integral to the plot of the movie

If you're gonna hate on the movie - at least hate on the pacing as that was the worst part

Umm, yeah. I don't think that scene was "role play".

 

[kswiston]

True Lies

(You originally wrote 40)

Bobby has mentioned being the same age as Star Wars, so I assume that the last grains of sand are running out on his 30s. Rounding up is not a sin

 

[Dalek]

I'm 39.

Whoa BR and I are the same age. I always thought you were younger.

Anyways I really like True Lies. I think it's far more entertaining than Titanic or Avatar.

 

[Rentahamster]

The Rock is better than True Lies.

I enjoyed both of those immensely. If I had to choose one movie to watch right now, though, I think I'd lean towards The Rock.

 

[Fancy Clown]

Guys you can stop pretending you don't understand how the movie has some racist/sexist shit going on in it. I refuse to believe you're that thick.

Also, just because a work has iffy stuff like that in it doesn't mean the people involved in making it are racist/sexist, nor does it mean you are for enjoying it (I mean unless that's specifically the reason why you like it).

Last I saw True Lies I thought it was fun as hell. Definitely bloated, and has some pretty weird and uncomfortable stuff, but I'd watch it over Avatar any day of the week.

 

[Pyccko]

Saw this backfire coming. Sorry, Bobby! A lot of people still love this movie.

That said I haven't seen it in maybe 20 years, so I couldn't tell you my real opinion on it. I will say though, even as a youngster I thought the striptease seemed like a really fucked up thing to do to your wife.

 

[Beerman462]

That strip tease though.

 

[Various Artists]

Terrific movie, still holds up after all this time.

Yeah I agree. I want a blu ray uhd version so bad. Maybe it's corny and in bad taste looking back through a perfect prism but god damn is it a good movie. The part where they are survailing Curtis and Paxton and the copper raises what looks like 20 feet behind them on the high way is gold.

 

[Discotheque]

Guys you can stop pretending you don't understand how the movie has some racist/sexist shit going on in it. I refuse to believe you're that thick.

Also, just because a work has iffy stuff like that in it doesn't mean the people involved in making it are racist/sexist, nor does it mean you are for enjoying it (I mean unless that's specifically the reason why you like it).

Last I saw True Lies I thought it was fun as hell. Definitely bloated, and has some pretty weird and uncomfortable stuff, but I'd watch it over Avatar any day of the week.

yep, well said. agree with all of this except for that last sentence.