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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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I was the security guard
It's a copypasta.
Smooth Operator
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I was one of the milky-way bars
too good to be true... like no man sky then huh?
lol I'm dying here.
Murray's definition of the meaning of the word "find" is different than most people's though.
Seriously, my bet is that this feature will simply show you a list of names of players near you or direct you to things named by people.
hydragonwarrior
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Nah, it's an old Internet Copypasta.
BackFromThePast
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Let me rephrase, its DEFINITELY not possible at the moment. Whether or not thats because the developer lied and didnt actually create that part of the game or because the serves were down or some other technical issue remains to be seen.
The big commotion is...if its a technical issue why doesn't the developer say that instead of remaining uber vague.
I'm actually quite enjoying my time so far with the game but their muddled messaging is definitely worth some criticism. If Nintendo had marketed New Super Mario Bros. U as having "online" people would've definitely complained when they bought the game only to find out miiverse functionality was its sole online functionality. The irony being thus far you can more concretely interact with fellow players in that game versus No Man's Sky 
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VlaudTheImpaler
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FTFY
exmachina64
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It's a meme into which you insert any remotely famous person -- Sean Murray, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, you name it.
Vincent Grayson
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I think that's been abundantly clear from day one.
I'd wager that if he could, Sean Murray would have released this game with no explanations whatsoever.
Vegetable Lasagna
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I think you just described Sony and their PR department. Any company for that matter. Hello Games signed up for this, so they deserve any flack they get. I don't like being lied to.
UncleSporky
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What is your actual, official belief on the state of multiplayer and this game, laid out plain and simple?
Like let me just try to lay it out and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
- Sean said there was multiplayer in the past many times, despite it not being a focus
- "Multiplayer" in the context of this game means naming discoveries, and being able to see other players online, though this would be extremely rare
- No real interaction with others, just literally look at them, you can both move around and see the movements each other are making, you can't attack each other or chat or anything
- The box art lacking the online icon and saying 1 player and Steam saying 1 player are erroneous or otherwise simply downplaying the multiplayer since it's such a mild form of it
- The Wireshark packet scan showing no transmitted location data is erroneous because local instances are only spun up when two players get really close, so someone doing the test by themselves won't see anything
- The two players not being able to meet despite both being online at once are due to launch networking difficulties, and/or being in different real world locations, and/or not being in the same local instance
- In other words, in the future, maybe tomorrow for all we know, two people will actually see each other and move around near each other and see that movement and be like "whoa neat"
- Therefore Sean never lied, everything he said in the past is actually true, you never see what you look like until you see another real player etc. etc.
Is that about right?
Anyone else who can safely say this is their viewpoint?
U rite
BumblebeeCody
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True but the point is, the fact you may never ever experience doesn't mean that being able to see someone else is impossible. It's rare but can in fact happen. As in, you will stand next to someone else and look at them like you would in any other game...right? I think it is a pretty simple yes/no question.
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DeepEnigma
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The Elite
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This post is too rational for this thread. You shouldn't be here.
hahahaha without fail.
Thanks. It was pretty hilarious, just didn't know the origin of it. Too good to be true.
noomi
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Then how do you explain his posts from today?
See Sean's own tweet:
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/763270512277594112
Vegetable Lasagna
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I'm going to believe Hello Games and Sony didn't lie about this. Just another occurrence of the Mandela Effect. It's Berenstein Bears and No Man's Sky has some form of multiplayer.... just in a now parallel timeline/universe.
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Raven77
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Sure, if it is confirmed he lied. As of right now we have no idea, yet everyone is perfectly willing to crucify him before we even know the truth.
UncleSporky
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I'm not saying that's how things are, I'm just tired of seeing all the little quips and barbs and snide comments that don't require laying it on the line in such a way that you could actually turn out wrong.
Make brief enough comments and you can spin anything you said. Too many people dodging around so they won't have to eat crow later.
Could have been in OP, wouldn't have mattered.
LOL X-D
I'll wait and see after launch and patches.
There has been mention that you can grief other players.
IF the wireshark test is false, how would the servers know that two people are nearby? After all, location data isn't sent to create an instance. Please explain to me how it is possible to generate an instance for two players that are near each other when the data to know that an instance should be generated isn't available as you would need to know what their proximity is by comparing the two distances. PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW IT CAN BE DONE OTHERWISE.
We don't know. Communication pre-release from Hello Games says yes, but nobody has been able to replicate it.
Admiral Woofington
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I get that reference since two days ago
but you cant see other players
I can think of a few reasons.
They're working on getting the PC release out ASAP
They've been vague about the game since the beginning so as not to reveal easter eggs/secrets
They've stated on twitter that server issues are a thing
The fact is, we don't know. I understand how that can be frustrating.
A planned patch that adds the feature
Coming up with an answer to that is really easy, haha.
What it could do is when 2 players discover a planet in very close proximity of each other and then spun up a lobby and put those two players together and try to sync it up without them noticing. That's one way to go about it.
artsi
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This theory doesn't even make sense, if neither client is never sending location data, how will they ever know that they're close to each other?
UncleSporky
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I'm on your side, man. I think denying all of that stuff is really a big stretch at this point, but the people who really believe that need to say so in no uncertain terms.
Although TBH if they're supporting Sean so strongly with the kind of statements he's been making, they learned from the best.
Sean's idea of "finding" each other means they've found each other's planets and discoveries. They can see the things another player found and named. And that's what the game's "multiplayer" has always been. Seeing an avatar of another player isn't the only definition of multiplayer.
Has he ever confirmed you could physically see another player if you find them?
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FunkyLounge
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Maybe.
User Name Here
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That would be good news since it could just be that they weren't in sync with each other.
This all sounds like it could happen, though doesn't that seem so complicated to the point of improbability? Occam's Razor, right?
This is what we know:
Two players tried to meet in game at the same place and could not see each other.
Sean Murray goes on Twitter and says how incredible that is (leaving us to imply what he could mean, since at this point when a game has launched, it's a yes or no question, because it's either on the disk/been patched to happen or it has not.)
In my eyes, his version of "meeting somebody" is that in all the different planets and places you can visit in the game, it's incredible to be somewhere that somebody has been at the same time. And that sounds about it. I do think it's incredible to run into another player in a game as massive as this, but clearly this thread shows that Sean messed up the communication on this feature big time on what he meant by multiplayer, and it's left a lot of players upset.
It's up to the individual to determine if it was a misunderstanding or was cut content he wasn't transparent about.
Vegetable Lasagna
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Wanted to do this, but was too lazy. Thanks.
Pretty much.
The game needs to send some location data at some point, it can't only start doing it if two people are "near" because it needs to know if people "get near" in the first place.
It's also pretty wild how many people are discovering planets other players have encountered on reddit. It's like the birthday problem. Either that or the game is much smaller than has been let on. Look forward to three days from now when some random power gamer has reached the centre of the universe.
He said it during the Colbert interview.
He did mention actually seeing each other, knowing how yourself look like by seeing the other. So he did mention physicality.
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