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womp said:
Time and effort for what exactly?

I have to agree with James... $0.99 for a wallpaper is a bit - Much - and does nothing in return except run in the background using CPU/battery cycles anyhow.

I'm in the court that finds live wallpaper to be the most useless thing in the entire OS however. Other than yourself, who cares if you have moving backgrounds? Cool...Sure, OK, yeah, functional or necessary? Negative.

I just don't get it. :)
You're mixing your personal preference with developers work being compensated.

Two different issues.

And even from this page alone I'm clearly not the only person who thinks live wallpapers are cool. Why not? They're flashy and fun.
 
Thought of posting this on the Developer's thread, but this thread is more active anyways.

[This post is by Dan Bornstein, virtual-machine wrangler. — Tim Bray]

As the tech lead for the Dalvik team within the Android project, I spend my time working on the virtual machine (VM) and core class libraries that sit beneath the Android application framework. This layer is mostly invisible to end users, but done right, it helps make Android devices run smoothly and improves developer productivity.

The 2.2 release is particularly pleasing to me, as it is the first release since before 1.0 in which we have been able to deliver significantly new VM technology. And unlike much of what my team and I do, it is something that can be experienced directly by end users.

“Dalvik” isn’t exactly a household word (at least in my country), and most people wouldn’t know a virtual machine if it hit them in the face, but when you tell them you were able to make their existing device work better — run faster, use less battery — they will actually take notice!

What Makes This Possible?

We added a Just In Time (JIT) compiler to the Dalvik VM. The JIT is a software component which takes application code, analyzes it, and actively translates it into a form that runs faster, doing so while the application continues to run. If you want to learn more about the design of the Dalvik JIT, please watch the excellent talk from Google I/O 2010 given by my colleagues Bill Buzbee and Ben Cheng, which should be posted to YouTube very soon.

To be clear, the differences aren’t always dramatic, nor do they apply uniformly to all applications. Code that is written to run the CPU all-out can now do more in the same amount of time (running faster), and code that is written to be rate-limited can get its work done using less time and less of the CPU (using less battery). On the performance front in particular, we have seen realistic improvements of 2x to 5x for CPU-bound code, compared to the previous version of the Dalvik VM. This is equivalent to about 4x to 10x faster than a more traditional interpreter implementation.

The team is proud of our new JIT in general, but we are especially proud of two aspects of it:

Many previous JIT implementations react slowly, delivering performance improvements only after a long warm up period. In the extreme, it can be minutes or even hours before the code is fully up to speed. On the other hand, the Dalvik JIT reacts quickly, so that mere moments after you hit the “Start” button on your favorite game, you are already benefiting from the work of the JIT.

We are also very pleased with how little memory the JIT uses. The code for the JIT itself is well under 100k, and each process that the JIT runs in will typically only use another 100k or so of RAM. On the current generation of Android phones, device users won’t even notice this additional memory usage; on my own phone, I can still have literally dozens of applications warmed up in memory and ready to go.

The Dalvik team isn’t resting on its laurels, either. We are hoping to see the Dalvik JIT deployed on many devices in the coming months. Looking forward, the team has an endless list of ideas for making the VM and library code better, which we are diligently working on.
 
Is there app for creating sound profiles ?

You know like some phones have/had

1. Profile - No sound + vibration
2. Profile - Low sound + no vibration
3. Profile - Beep + vibration

and so on. If I can set times for profiles too that would be totally awesome.
(1. Profile - No sound + vibration 10am - 11am and after that sound + vibration)
 
Fuzz Rez said:
Is there app for creating sound profiles ?

You know like some phones have/had

1. Profile - No sound + vibration
2. Profile - Low sound + no vibration
3. Profile - Beep + vibration

and so on. If I can set times for profiles too that would be totally awesome.
(1. Profile - No sound + vibration 10am - 11am and after that sound + vibration)
Setting Profiles Full. It's awesome. :D
 
My girlfriends HTC Hero is kind of sluggish and acting up a little. Heard for so long that Android 2.1 would be available 'soon'

well apparently it is if your phone is a sprint phone. I don't know what a sprint is, but I want this upgrade to be available for all the handsets damnit! Anyone know when the hero should be able to get an upgrade? 1.5 is the latest version available for this handset, which makes it feel decidedly not new or swanky.
 
catfish said:
My girlfriends HTC Hero is kind of sluggish and acting up a little. Heard for so long that Android 2.1 would be available 'soon'

well apparently it is if your phone is a sprint phone. I don't know what a sprint is, but I want this upgrade to be available for all the handsets damnit! Anyone know when the hero should be able to get an upgrade? 1.5 is the latest version available for this handset, which makes it feel decidedly not new or swanky.

Stickin’ it to the man, Android style

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The community is starting to rile up.
 
Hey guys, I'm having an issue with Google Talk.

Me and my buddy don't see each other as Online anymore -- he shows up as "offline" on my phone. What's going on here. We both checked our Blocked settings..

I wonder if he's changed his universal status on Digbsy and that's why... hmm...
 
Anyone know the Dolphin Browser (not HD) version just before the one that removed Youtube downloading? I want to find the apk file for it.
 
Fatalah said:
Hey guys, I'm having an issue with Google Talk.

Me and my buddy don't see each other as Online anymore -- he shows up as "offline" on my phone. What's going on here. We both checked our Blocked settings..

I wonder if he's changed his universal status on Digbsy and that's why... hmm...

Maybe you're both invisible.
 
I tried TwonkyServer mobile yesterday. What a delightful app. Can't get any simpler. Press a button, to share. Press button again to turn it off.

That's it.
 
Gameloft... they just don't get it.

"...according to our refund policy, once the game is successfully installed, we cannot resend it for any reason, unless you buy it again. One purchase entitles you to one download of the game to one phone number and on one phone model only. If you delete or otherwise remove the game from your phone, or change your handset, you will have to buy it again. About updates, I’m sorry, I have no information."
 
I have a question about the Google Earth app. Does anyone know if it is possible to share saved items on my Google Earth installation on my laptop with my Google Earth app on my Droid? This would be a ridiculously helpful feature for me for work. I would think I could just use my Google account on both and have it sync in the cloud, but I don't see a way to log in on either iteration of the software.

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
jonnybryce said:
You're mixing your personal preference with developers work being compensated.

Two different issues.

And even from this page alone I'm clearly not the only person who thinks live wallpapers are cool. Why not? They're flashy and fun.

Not at all...My best friend of 15 years is a dev (Amiga, PC) and is starting to dabble into Android now himself - Trust me, I'm all for developers being compensated (I've dropped over $30 on the Android Marketplace in the past so many months). I understand where you are coming from but in this case you aren't really getting anything back for your money, there isn't any value to me. This serves no purpose.

I know it's only a dollar but I'd rather have the medium Coke in this particular case. :D

As for Live Wallpapers, that of course is just personal opinion. As I said, I'm more about function over form and I think they are absolutely useless. I don't think having a bunch of dots flying all over my background home screen is 'fun'. :/

Ultimately I think my beef is the fact that the Android Marketplace needs more quality apps and less filler BS such as this taking up its space. I want it to succeed and there is enough crap filling it up as it is already. Make something worthwhile and not wasteful. As I said, all this does for .99 is eat my battery and chew my CPU cycles.

No thanks.
 
Nice 1up app!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/matias-duarte-leaves-palm-and-could-be-headed-to-google/

webOS design mastermind Matias Duarte leaves Palm... and could be headed to Google

Breaking News
According to a report filed over at All Things D, Matias Duarte -- the man considered to be the driving force behind the user interface of webOS -- has left Palm, and may very well be headed to Google. Duarte held the title of Senior Director of Human Interface and User Experience, and before working his magic at Palm, was one of the hands that touched the Sidekick and Helio UIs. Although Palm has confirmed his departure from the company, they aren't giving up the goods on where he's headed next, though John Paczkowski over at D says"multiple sources" indicate he's on his way to Google, presumably to work on Android.

While Matias was unquestionably a prime mover at Palm, we had heard rumblings that his rigid attitude toward design and control-freak nature sometimes caused conflict amongst the team. Of course, you don't crank out something as groundbreaking as webOS without some hard boundaries. The news that he's headed to Google could signal a major shift for Android towards dealing with the myriad UI issues the mobile OS has, particularly a lack of cohesion in the stock builds -- something HTC has gone to great lengths to shore up with Sense.

Oh yes please!!
Android needs a cohesive look and design!!

The Google Gods have spoke!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/palms-matias-duarte-has-joined-google-as-user-experience-direct/

We'd heard rumors this morning that webOS design guru Matias Duarte had left Palm for Google, but now we've got it straight from Mountain View: Mr. Duarte is the new User Experience Director for Android. If you'll remember, Matias previously worked on Sidekick with Android head Andy Rubin, so it's a reunion of sorts for these two -- we're pretty excited to see where they take Android in the future. As for Palm, well, we're sure HP has plenty of talented designers waiting to lead webOS into the wild world of tablets, netbooks and, uh, printers, so we'll see what happens there -- things could get crazy on both sides of this transition.
 
andycapps said:
Haha I just saw this on my news feeds as well. Great, great news if this is true.

From the looks of the guy (Duarte) seems like he fits with Google

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:lol

Android is fast becoming Google's #1 priority.
Exciting times.
Wonder if Gingerbread will get delayed if Duarte manages to start changing things around.
 
SimleuqiR said:
From the looks of the guy (Duarte) seems like he fits with Google

matias-duarte.jpg


:lol

Android is fast becoming Google's #1 priority.
Exciting times.
Wonder if Gingerbread will get delayed if Duarte manages to start changing things around.

Haha well it does seem like he could definitely do some major things there to bring unity and clarity to the project. There've also been rumors about J Allard ending up at Google, would be interesting if that happened and if he ended up on the Android project. I could see him doing well there though.

But what really needs to happen with Android is where the 3rd parties become satisfied enough with Android's offerings that vanilla Android is the way to go. Maybe they integrate some stuff from Sense.. At this point, the customization of Android is both it's blessing and curse. Everyone thinks Sense is the best version of Android, but it also causes major delays between a new release and HTC getting around to customizing Sense for each phone, and then for each carrier to approve it. They have to streamline that process.
 
andycapps said:
Haha well it does seem like he could definitely do some major things there to bring unity and clarity to the project. There've also been rumors about J Allard ending up at Google, would be interesting if that happened and if he ended up on the Android project. I could see him doing well there though.

But what really needs to happen with Android is where the 3rd parties become satisfied enough with Android's offerings that vanilla Android is the way to go. Maybe they integrate some stuff from Sense.. At this point, the customization of Android is both it's blessing and curse. Everyone thinks Sense is the best version of Android, but it also causes major delays between a new release and HTC getting around to customizing Sense for each phone, and then for each carrier to approve it. They have to streamline that process.

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/27/palms-matias-duarte-googles-user-experience-director/

Duarte was without a doubt one of the big boys over at Palm, but recent rumors that his rigidity with design and the fact that he is a bit of a control freak caused some friction amongst the team he was working with. The good news for Android lovers out of that rumor is that he may be coming to Google to help bring some cohesion to the fragmentation issues with Android.

So Google has their own mini-SteveJobs. :lol
I'm wondering how he will be able to help with the fragmentation issue?
 
I have always had this feeling that Android 3.0 would be chock full of aesthetic and UI upgrades, and the hiring of Duarte now makes me believe that more than ever. It seems like a lot of the 2.0 UI improvements basically pushed Android into being a usable mainstream phone OS, and all the 2.X improvements thereafter were mainly to improve functionality and basic OS options. 2.0 allowed Android to compete with the iPhone, and I think 3.0 will streamline, unify, and improve the UI aesthetics in a way that really turns the tides in Android's favor.
 
Even though I'm one of the major proponents of Android, it's pretty clear to me that the OS is still not polished. The entire UI is pretty weak. It's full of a million menus, difficult to find how to change certain settings, etc. Hopefully this gets fixed soon. Android is a bunch of brilliant ideas put together but lacking cohesion and polish.

Here's hoping this is the man to get it done.
 
andycapps said:
That's good news if he's able to focus and streamline things. It seems like one of the main things they could do would be to work out a deal with the carriers and the hardware manufacturers for the devices (if they'd allow it) to dual boot Sense UI or stock Android. If they could do stock Android say right now on the EVO or Incredible and get 2.2 or you could have the choice of being on 2.1 with Sense.

I don't even know if that's possible or feasible but just an idea. Clearly room for improvement when you see how many Android users are stuck on 1.6.
If possible, I'd love Android.

That said, if Gingerbread is coming out in Q4, he's not really going to be able to influence it that much (i.e. thorough redesign), right? So that would mean next May-ish? with ....honey?
 
How do you configure it?
Just updated and I don't see it under preferences.
 
The weakest part of Android is its UI. It's an OS without a vision or identity. It's a supercharged sports car without any distinct curves or lights.

I'm really excited to see this change.
 
Android could use some streamlining. Instead of having to go into every app to set what I want the notification ring to be, why can't I just go into settings, have a list of apps with customizable notifications and change the sound from there.
 
I'll check too, but does anyone know if this new UI guy has a Twitter? It could be awesome to make a list of UI improvements we'd love to see and send it over his way.
 
the video quality on the 1up app is terrible. at the very least you should have an option for better quality over wifi or they need to look at better compression.
 
Don't know if this has been posted, but I'll try anyway. So, turns out I'm pretty anal about my screen config and was looking everywhere for a good battery widget, but I hate the way most of them look. The design is often ugly and the info hard to read. So I'm looking, looking...and I find...GAH!

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Are you serious? Oh, it's beautiful. BattStatt is easily the best battery widget I've ever seen (and it's FREE!). It's available as a widget in every size, but the beauty is, it's all contextual and extremely minimalistic (you can customize the BG and text colors, too). As a designer, I find this choice extremely unique and really refreshing. I gave it an easy 5 stars (it's actually the only review I've ever took the time to post). So, yeah...DOWNLOAD! :D
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Update All is one of the best things about 2.2. Having to do it for every app was so annoying.
Update All? Pfft. Try set it and forget it OTA automatic updates.

Edit: Oh, and I'd wager Google already has a good idea of what they need to do to evolve Android's UI patterns. Various similarities between the Twitter app which they helped with, and the Google IO app. I think we'll start to see more of that for Android.

Duarte's role will probably have more to do with how to establish Android's UI for other formfactors emerging as potential destinations for this OS - tablets, TVs, car displays, etc.
 
Can anyone help me setting up my email? I am on a DIC and am trying to set up my school email, which is powered by google apps. Directions from google read

To configure the 'Email' app on an Android device for access to Google Apps email, just follow the steps below:

1. Enable IMAP in your Mail settings.
2. On your phone, press < Home >, then open the Email application.
3. On the 'Your accounts' page, select Next to get started with setup.
4. Enter your full Google Apps email address and password, then select Next.
5. Select IMAP account and then select Next.

On the 'Incoming server settings' page, some fields may be pre-populated. Make sure to change the following:
6. For 'Username,' enter your full Google Apps email address
7. For 'IMAP server,' enter 'imap.gmail.com'
8. For 'Port,' enter '993'
9. For 'Security type,' select 'SSL (always)''

However, when I press next at this point it says authentication failed. Any help??
 
kaching said:
Update All? Pfft. Try set it and forget it OTA automatic updates.


Is this in 2.2? Updating is my only complaint about android. I can't be bothered to update all my apps every other day.
 
movie_club said:
Can anyone help me setting up my email? I am on a DIC and am trying to set up my school email, which is powered by google apps. Directions from google read



However, when I press next at this point it says authentication failed. Any help??
The Gmail app is so much better than the email app. I strongly suggest you use it, either by registering your whole phone with your school email address or by forwarding your school email to another Google-powered address.
 
Alright, all this talk is upsetting. I'm getting a new phone. I no longer care about which service, since T-Mobile seems to want to supply shitty phones.

What 2.2 phone has a physical keyboard? Any of them?
 
WanderingWind said:
Alright, all this talk is upsetting. I'm getting a new phone. I no longer care about which service, since T-Mobile seems to want to supply shitty phones.

What 2.2 phone has a physical keyboard? Any of them?
Only Nexus One has 2.2.

Of the physical keyboard Android phones, I would expect Motorola Droid to get 2.2 first.
 
nexus one doesnt have the final 2.2 either, so really no phone has actual release 2.2 yet... but yes, if you want 2.2 the fastest you will need a stock UI, which would be the droid on verizon... if you were going to go that route i'd actually wait a bit and get the shadow
 
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