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Apple CEO Tim Cook spotted at video game designer Valve's headquarters
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Tim Cook by all reporters is a humble kind guy. Steve Job was an asshole.
Wait, waht, Apple is now the most powerful company on the planet...?
We have some delusional Apple fans on the forum, ignore.
Koroviev
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However, Apple is an incredibly valuable company, atm.
Completely true.
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Insane. I'd say even in their niche they aren't the most powerful company (Android is going strong and will be so even more in the future) and they are strongly related to a certrain live-style/fashion/trend whatever. Doesn't mean their tech isn't great but the hype could be over just as fast as it came. Not saying it'll happen but decades ago, you know, a company named Sony...ah, nevermind.
Insane. I'd say even in their niche they aren't the most powerful company (Android is going strong and will be so even more in the future) and they are strongly related to a certrain live-style/fashion/trend whatever. Doesn't mean their tech isn't great but the hype could be over just as fast as it came. Not saying it'll happen but decades ago, you know, a company named Sony...ah, nevermind.
Apple is far far bigger than Google. Or Microsoft for that matter.
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Call me when Iwata flies to Seattle to meet with Gabe Newell till then your comparison is downright stupid.
More conclusive evidence
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/04/07/valve-founder-gabe-newell-loves-miyamoto-and-super-mario-64/
OMG! OMG!
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/04/07/valve-founder-gabe-newell-loves-miyamoto-and-super-mario-64/
OMG! OMG!
You don't follow the tech industry do you?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2097106/Apples-iPhone-business-bigger-Microsoft.html
Maybe (I actually don't know tbh), but their products aren't as important. There is a difference between a search engine (and tons of other services obviously) which basically dictates a huge part of the public communication process and...good looking phones and mp3 players and a music store.
If you had a photo of Iwata all kissy kissy with Gabe then you could be on to something. And please no photoshops, we can spot those instantly.
Koroviev
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Eh, it's Daily Mail o_<
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Are you actually mad?
Um they are reporting financials released by both companies not making up gossip.
I am starting to realize the gaming side is really oblivious to how big Apple is.
I posted a reuters source up there. A bit unconspicuously but I'll repost.
As of the 10th of April of 2012: Apple still is the most valuable company in the world.
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Koroviev
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My only qualm was the source.
I'm aware of Apple's value. My family has stock in it.
If Apple throws it's hat into the console business, it worries me mostly as a traditional gamer, as much as I adore Apple. Apple's business models work, and if they were to release a traditional console that has competitive hardware and all the 3rd party support - they would probably find themselves losing money. However if they pull some shit and "re-invent gaming" just like how they re-invented the god damn phone and tablets, then they will most likely have an incredibly high selling piece of hardware that doesn't do anything hardcore gamers want. And with the awful spending habits of mobile users, ie Angry Birds, or Facebook games, they will likely go after that market.
It'll be interesting to see how they avoid cannibalising themselves with all the games they have to offer in the app store if they do decide to look into a console or Steam support.
It'll be interesting to see how they avoid cannibalising themselves with all the games they have to offer in the app store if they do decide to look into a console or Steam support.
This is only a story because The CEO of Apple flew to meet with Valve. It would be a huge story if Iwata flew to Valve. Which he didnt.
You are just embarrassing yourself
apple is worth more than google and Microsoft combine. Apple has more than 100 billion dollars just sitting in the bank.
You think CEO cook will go to Valve HQ because of some controller or whatever. COOK is not an engineer who will discuss the technical aspect. CEO of the biggest company in the world is probably there to start or finish a deal.
You don't know how many businesses rely on apple products do you? If all macs disappeared right now the entertainment industry would be fucked. Almost all major studios rely on macs for animated movies/shows, special effects, and editing. There would be no ILM or Pixar if macs went away.
Not to mention the music industry which is heavily built on mac software.
Apple is the computer backbone of the entertainment industry.
You can go outside entertainment as well, Facebook is ran on Macs and OSX.
To much of the entertainment industry Apple software like Final Cut Pro is as vital as MS Office is to many businesses.
Damn, that's a lot of cash. I stand corrected.
You really should read something like:
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/
Valve is not a traditional company at all. And contracting them to be Nintendo's online provider is just never happening. It's not the way the company is structured. It's not even a matter of throwing enough money at the issue.
EDIT: Clearly I bent my sarcasm detector going through the tunnel. But for anyone who does think this is a possibility, read the blog.
Tim Cook is far from a humble guy, I would say he is more humble than Steve Jobs though. However no matter how much of a nice guy you try to make him out to be he does not randomly visit companies for minor issues or thanks. This guy is running Apple atm, if you think he has time to just wander around being nice you should reconsider.
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Yup. Apple could easily buy Valve.
According to the Fortune 500 list of 2011 Apple (65,225.0$M) has more revenue than Microsoft (62,484.0$M) and Google (29,321.0$M). But not than both combined.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2011/full_list/index.html
And before you quote Wikipedia to me, it's not reliable as it also says it's the largest technology company by revenue, even though Samsung is double it and Samsung Electronics is one fifth more.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2011/full_list/index.html
And before you quote Wikipedia to me, it's not reliable as it also says it's the largest technology company by revenue, even though Samsung is double it and Samsung Electronics is one fifth more.
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I'm okay with an Apple gaming system. But if it ends up pushing either Sony or Nintendo out of the console race, I'll be a sad panda. There's no room for 4 competitors. Hell, it wasn't until this gen that there's room for 3 (barely).
What about profits? Not that I even know why we are discussing this, he said worth more.
But that's not that their big chunk of money comes from, or? Is the masses which buy ipods and ipads, everything else is still, more or less, a niche. Also they could probably be easyily replaced with regular PCs running Windows or specialized software/linux whatever...just guesswork though. Still, they may be rich, though I don't think they are very important. Even stuff they more or less invented like the ipad...it's not more than a "nice to have" product. Up to this day I still don't know why I'd need something like that besides that it's a nice gadget. Google is very different from that, I think.
Also there are other companies (which I don't know) which are part of food or delivery or energy (oil etc.) chains which are probably way way more important than apple could ever be. They are still rich, obviously.
Yup, somebody is going out of business.
Below Microsoft, above Google.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/apple-market-cap-google-microsoft_n_1266101.html
keep in mind that apple market cao is actually much more now.
Revenue for public means nothing for its value. Public company are with the price of its market value, which is based on its stocks that give you it's ownership.
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I'm no fan of iOs games, at least the popular ones on this board, but these threads are always so overblown.
It is smart that if Apple were to release a console-like device that plays out of more like a PC (in the sense a tablet is more like a PC than a 3DS) that Valve jumps on the opportunity to get Steam on it. It is rather unfortunate I can't just boot up Steam on any of the three consoles.
It is smart that if Apple were to release a console-like device that plays out of more like a PC (in the sense a tablet is more like a PC than a 3DS) that Valve jumps on the opportunity to get Steam on it. It is rather unfortunate I can't just boot up Steam on any of the three consoles.
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Steam will become available through the iStore.
Sounds dumb, but it makes sense actually.
Sounds dumb, but it makes sense actually.
I was always under the impression that revenue is the number one thing that public companies chase to appease shareholder.
I see that worth is accepted to be market capitalization.
They could if Valve were public, however they're not so it becomes a whole lot harder. I'm pretty sure Gabe is not interested in losing their independence no matter how much money Apple throws at them. A collaboration on something would be the biggest thing to happen from this meeting.
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