ClovingWestbrook
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Big Ass Ramp said:
Wait until the iPad comes out and you get to play with it before making a decision.
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Wait until the iPad comes out and you get to play with it before making a decision.
Solid Moustache
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Big Ass Ramp said:
You should be ok if you try to match the screen brightness and the brightness around you, that means low brightness in the dark, and high brightness in the sun (the hard part, but you'll probably wont be reading under the sun and mostly under the shade).
I just finished reading an entire book (The Time Machine, great classic) on the iPod touch and I didn't get any eye strain. Some people seem to be allergic to LCDs and praise the Kindle like it's the second coming of jesus for whatever reason :S They say "you haven't read a book on a LCD to know how it causes eye strain!" when I probably have read the equivalent of 10 books this week alone in my iTouch and laptop via internet :lol. It's true that eInk is cool and all, and i'd say it takes a little less of effort to read on it than on an LCD, but since I don't get any eye strain AND LCD lets me do more, the pros aren't good enough compared to the cons, and that's just the screen, you can do much more with an iPad that with the kindle at the same price... sorry about the wall of text.
I didn't start hitting problems with CRT and LCD eyestrain until I was about 25 years old. About 15 years into being an active computer user. It's something that catches up with you. Of course, some people never have any problem with it, but others will eventually.
There's also the fact that you CAN read e-ink (and real books) in direct sunlight. It's actually quite pleasant to do so, in fact. Or without glare from fluorescent light panels above you, for that matter. The iphone screen is pretty bad for either of those things.
There's also the fact that you CAN read e-ink (and real books) in direct sunlight. It's actually quite pleasant to do so, in fact. Or without glare from fluorescent light panels above you, for that matter. The iphone screen is pretty bad for either of those things.
Solid Moustache
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maharg said:
So it takes time for it to cause you eye strain? Because all of the eink evangelists say things like "I can't read 10 pages without my eyes hurting" :S Which of course I think it's bullshit.
Oh yeah I forgot those advantages. I'd still go with an iPad though
Big Ass Ramp said:
In my experience it depends on the person. My friend can't read anything on an LCD for longer than 20 minutes without getting eye strain. Then you have my mom who has a Kindle but much prefers to read books on her iPhone for extended periods of time. Like you say eink is definitely ideal but for some (me included) LCDs aren't that bad.
Yeah, considering that to find a forum to post in and then post that LCD makes their eyes hurt takes more than 10 minutes, I'm calling bullshit on this one, too. If they can't read from an LCD without your eyes hurting, any internet usage must be causing these people violent hemorrhages from their eye sockets.Solid Moustache said:
Solid Moustache said:
It takes less time for strain to become a problem per interaction the longer you actively stare at screens. It took 15 years for that time to reduce to an amount of time I considered a problem. Fortunately, it was right around the time that LCDs were becoming available and they're better than CRTs, for what it's worth.
The thing is, your eyes don't do the same thing when you're reading a book as they do when using a forum like this, or editing a document in word, or coding. When you read, your eyes are on the screen and they stay focused. When you're doing something else, your eyes drift, focus and unfocus, etc. as you think or type or whatever. Which is why reading a long article or book on a screen can be problematic but not regular use. It's pretty easy to be dismissive of these problems if you don't have them, but don't count your chickens 'till they've hatched. And it's not like people are going "OH HO HO, WHAT JUSTIFICATION CAN I USE FOR WANTING E-INK AND NOT AN LCD FOR MY EBOOK READER TODAY?" You don't really think they'd bother dumping shitloads of money into the technology if it weren't an issue, do you?
I would never use my iphone or an ipad as an ebook reader for one simple reason: an average length magazine article is about all I can comfortably read on a computer screen non-stop.
Big Ass Ramp said:
I'd base it on your reading habits. If you don't tend to read for really long stretches, the iPad should be fine. And for bite-sized materials (newspapers, comics, magazines), it should be a superior experience.
Do you notice problems reading on your computer? Try reading some free ebooks and see how it goes.
LovingSteam said:
Well certainly. However, if you tend to read for long stretches, playing with it in a store isn't going to tell you much.
That's hardly a mac feature, I could ask if someone's used a windows PC with Vista or 7 if we're talking media. Thing is, OSX and Windows were specifically set up to do those task with pre-defined file types, that's not that impressive. What I want is a more robust system of doing this that doesn't rely on Apple or Microsoft coding for that specific file type. My worry is that we are going to get a lot of apps and lots of them are going to be very narrowly focused, I want them to be able to operate together without Apple having to code for it. Now, unless we get AI that actually "knows" what the data on my computer is we still need the app developers themselves to make their apps compatible with each other by saving the data in the same way or at least looking at each others apps that do similar things and adding compatibility. I know I'm not explaining this real well but it's a small thing but hard to do but I think it'd make a world of difference.mrkgoo said:
To the other poster saying it's primarily gamers who mod their PC I agree with that, but I'd say newegg and the like would think the enthusiasts are a decent sized market, not as big as the amount of people who just need www, email and a media apps but enough that the "desktop" will never be killed.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
Raistlin said:
You know, I've never noticed any problems reading on an LCD. In fact, as of right now, about 98% of all my reading is on an LCD screen. Like Solid Moustache said, people act like eink is the one and true way to read a book and I think I had taken this to heart.
Thanks for the help everyone! I think I'm going to seriously consider the iPad over the Kindle. I'm at least going to wait until the iPad comes out and try it for myself. Plus, by then, maybe Amazon will drop the Kindle price or Kindle 3 details will come to fruition. I just hate waiting. :S
Thanks again.
LovingSteam said:
Not sure why this is important. Couldn't media organisations just reformat web pages based on the ipad user agent? And doesn't zinio already have an iphone app for their magazine e-reader? An ipad version of that would be very welcome
Terrell said:
Went through that when I bought an apple TV (which I don't have any more). Try and find a decent compromise format that'll work across devices - ipod, appleTV, ipad etc. I'd think the universal preset in handbrake should be fine on ipad.
BTW, if you have a lot of DVDs, it might be worth looking at batch encoding. I had a script setup so I just fed DVDs into my mac mini, it ripped them with mac the ripper, then ejected the disc. So every time I noticed a disc was sticking out, I popped another one in. Then at midnight I had another script set up to batch encode anything in the 'rips' folder. Doesn't seem to take so long when you're not doing it all by hand.
Tobor said:
how many comics will you have? The ones on the PSP store are pretty small, so they shouldn't take up too much space.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised as well, I read a ton on a LCD and never had any issues, I think the iPad will make a fine ereader, assuming you take into account the light conditions that were mentioned before, it will probably be tougher outdoors in sunlight than a kindle by far, but aside from that I think it'll kick ass as an ereader that does lots of other shit.Big Ass Ramp said:
I'm not sold on the iPad as an actual tablet, but as a purely reading device, web, books, magazines, it's doing real well, so for what I want from a tablet it'll probably be Apple's second generation or some other company's device that gets that role but this is very much still in the running as a reading device for me.
I would have liked to kill all the birds with one stone, but considering the way reality is, I may never get my wish device so I'll probably jump in some time this year despite no device filling all of my desires.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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No one cares about Macworld.Flek said:
infiniteloop
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Flek said:ok mhew didnt know that
I have a free Expo Pass, and was wondering if I should attend, as it requires me travelling to get there. There's not really anything to see in particular, but I've never seen one of these exhibitions before, so I thought it might be a neat experience.
Has anyone taken a peek into the expos in the past?
LiveFromKyoto
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grumble said:
They say 8-10 hours. We'll see.
Well, the trick is that in order to get soft subtitles that aren't burned into the video (I have a Chinese boyfriend, he might want the option of subs in his native language too), I have to do it all manually, since it involves applying SRT files to the encoding and you have to make sure that the SRT files you have properly sync up to the video. It sucks, but in the end, I essentially have raw Japanese videos with totally optional multi-language subtitles... it's a thing of beauty. Took me FOREVER to figure out how to do it, too.mrklaw said:
If anyone wants to know how to do it, PM me and I'll break it down for you.
Mecha_Infantry
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Ummm, has been offered a £210 white Macbook...I could bite, I still REALLY need to hear the Apple pricing in the UK
For travelling size won't matter too much, but I could do with the slickness of the iPad..but price it right!!
For travelling size won't matter too much, but I could do with the slickness of the iPad..but price it right!!
Apple just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Tablet culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with Computers where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over with Tablets, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the Tablet public (especially Kindle owners), after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the iPad, nor will they purchase any of Apple's products. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Apple has alienated an entire market with this move.
Apple, publicly apologize and cancel the iPad or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Tablet culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with Computers where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over with Tablets, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the Tablet public (especially Kindle owners), after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the iPad, nor will they purchase any of Apple's products. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Apple has alienated an entire market with this move.
Apple, publicly apologize and cancel the iPad or you can kiss your business goodbye.
woodsey1982
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Uk price? Just take the US price and add ass raping to get a decent idea. We are gonna get screwed.Mecha_Infantry said:
Mecha_Infantry
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threenote said:
:lol :lol
It's a mememrkgoo said:
Raistlin said:
Yeah, it does. In some ways it feels like they are 'abandoning' their core user base. That said, they probably want to get away from the image that Apple products are for a core user group as opposed to just anyone.
There really wasn't much benefit to them outside of the keynote, and even then they probably felt obliged to do it. They should at least have a booth there though. I mean, this year, they could be doing controlled demos of the iPad. Probably don't want to do it half-cocked, however. All or nothing, I suppose.
mrkgoo said:
Yeah, once I sat back and thought about it, it makes sense.
Back in the day when Apple=Mac, it made sense to be a part of it. Now though, it makes more sense to concentrate on the mass-market items they have. It's not like the Mac audience is going anywhere. While the userbase may not be huge, I wouldn't call it niche either. They have a strong, established base, and I don't think doing this kind of PR would really make any difference to it's market at all anymore.
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