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Apple iPad revealed
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LOL at the HTML5 comment.
i think every web designer and his dog cant wait for it!
Screw IE6,7 & sometimes 8
Why should i add in additional JS or code or images just for you
Count me in for an iPad
Not sure on the 3G version though, wily bastards using a smaller sim card so i can't use an existing sim and data plan!
i think every web designer and his dog cant wait for it!
Screw IE6,7 & sometimes 8
Why should i add in additional JS or code or images just for you
Count me in for an iPad
Not sure on the 3G version though, wily bastards using a smaller sim card so i can't use an existing sim and data plan!
Tobor said:If they expect it to work on all browsers, then they can't use Flash.
Yeah only 99%... :lol
As for picking up an ipad on launch, I dunno yet. I am pretty damn sure someone in my office will buy one (if we don't get one for the lobby reception area) and I will see if I need one for home use. Will probably play with it and try and hold out for at least generation 2.
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...or do they?!eznark said:
Not saying this makes sense or anything, but Adobe could probably create a ton of negative Apple press if they create a flash-enabled browser and submit it to Apple, only to have Apple reject it.
Adobe could single-handedly undermine Apple if they did this.
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I don't know...Tobor said:
If Adobe started creating a ton of press for a new browser that supported flash being completely developed and sitting in Apple's queue, I don't know how Apple can decline that app without getting shit on by customers.
It gives the consumer a choice if they want to deal with flash or not, and whatever ramifications that come with it.
Perhaps bundle it with a FireFox browser for iPhone and make rejecting it that much more of a big deal to generate a ton of bad press.
RubxQub said:
Those are just skins on mobile safari.
Adobe is getting flash on the iphone, by way of flash CS5. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/
Keylime
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That's not the same thing, though.Flo_Evans said:
That's just a toolset for flash developers to use to create iPhone applications. Nothing about that is going to get flash support in a browser.
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For what it's worth, I really don't care if flash is supported or not, but I do like the idea of having it outside the regular browser if I did want it for one reason or another. The default user will never get at it (making Apple happy) but if someone wanted to get at it, they could (and deal with whatever experience that provides, making Adobe happy).
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I think it'd be a pretty big news item in the tech world if Apple was blocking a flash enabled browser from showing up on it's store.mrkgoo said:
Maybe it wouldn't, but seeing how much people here get riled up about it, I have to imagine it'd be a pretty big item.
Sure, news in the tech world. Whyher this be anything meaningful to normal public is another matter.RubxQub said:
We already know flash won't be on it. An app rejection wouldn't surprise. If it's a performance issue, they may not care if it's in a third party browser anyway. Although I can see Steve rejecting just to be Steve.
Has the general public ever really paid attention to app rejections?
peacebyanymeans
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I'd rather not have Flash on the iPhone or iPad.
The quicker Flash dies and HTML5 becomes prevalent will be a good day for the Internet.
The quicker Flash dies and HTML5 becomes prevalent will be a good day for the Internet.
Kung Fu Jedi
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...And we're back to Flash again. Damn, they need to give us more info on the iPad soon. More apps! More videos! More impressions! Save us from the ongoing Flash talk!
Someone please start the "Official Flash: Love it or Leave it" thread and be done withit.
Someone please start the "Official Flash: Love it or Leave it" thread and be done withit.
out0v0rder
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whats wrong with wanting flash geeeeezz
peacebyanymeans
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out0v0rder said:
Flash is a proprietary format, controlled by a single company, whereas HTML5 is a standard setup by the Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group (WHATWG). Also, if that wasn't enough, Flash is bloated, buggy, and a power-hog.
Captain N said:
That's true, although when you subscribe in iTunes, when you refresh the feed it looks through the feed location rather than the iTunes store, although that doesn't really help the iPhone situation, as the only way you can get new shows on that is via the Store. :\
peacebyanymeans
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Captain N said:
That's true, although when you subscribe in iTunes, when you refresh the feed it looks through the feed location rather than the iTunes store, although that doesn't really help the iPhone situation, as the only way you can get new shows on that is via the Store. :\
Double post,
Huh, didn't know that. I just assumed they still didn't since Mozilla recently said there was no plans for firefox on i-devices.Vennt said:
I was using the nook in bed last night and it occurred to me, how much bigger is the ipad than a standard ereader? Anything bigger than a kindle/nook and I would think it would start to get uncomfortable. One of the reasons I have been reading on digital formats (pda back in the day, iphone, Droid and now the nook) is that I can't stand the bulk of a hardcover book . Obviously this device does a lot more than the ibook stuff, but it's something to consider as I debate picking one up.
Lol, seeing the whole, proprietary format controlled by a single company argument used against Flash but in defense of Apple really makes my day, guess it really comes down to brand loyalty, not openness or control.peacebyanymeans said:
I may still be in myself. I don't hold Apple in some super high regard, I still think the iPad is seriously gimped and if I were in charge I'd make a few changes, BUT I still think it's a good device with some practical use, even if it doesn't fulfill all of my needs.
I mean, there are other devices that do what I want but in the wrong form factor, or they get the simplicity part of what I feel a tablet should be wrong, yadda, yadda, so despite all the faults I still can't discredit the device completely. So do I get a device that does everything I want but deal with the ever present hassles like directshow filters, drivers, and all that shit or give up some of those desires for a device that's a bit more friendly and reliable and in the form factor I want with the UI I want?
Tough choice, I think I'm leaning towards getting one, I don't see anything on the PC end of the spectrum that's going to do what I want in the meantime and for all I know the exact product I want may never even be a reality so I could wait until eternity.
Can you give any details?
Kung Fu Jedi
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Sentry said:
I look forward to turning it to landscape mode and viewing two pages at the same time.
Ninja Scooter
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Panelfly is pretty worthless on the iPhone, but I'll be damned if it wouldn't be pretty fucking sweet on the iPad. Could be the thing that gets me back into comics.
The Notion Ink Adam is still alive:
http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-adam-flash-ipad-comparison-app-competition-0873197/
http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-adam-flash-ipad-comparison-app-competition-0873197/
345triangle
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wow, the kindle's really big. i've never actually seen one in the wild, but i figured it was kind of the same size as my sony reader - then again, that's pretty much all screen.
maybe the ipad won't be as excessively bulky for books as i figured.
maybe the ipad won't be as excessively bulky for books as i figured.
Flo_Evans said:
That's kind of a silly statement. It's like saying standard web interfaces are made with a kb/mouse in mind. Well no kidding! That has nothing to do with the underlying tech.
peacebyanymeans said:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the web taking a step backwards. It'll be great!
peacebyanymeans said:
That actually isn't entirely true at this point. swf and flv are actually open source at this point. And while Adobe hasn't made the flash player code open source, they won't stop people from making their own players and will share source code.
This is true. However, the reason is kind of good and bad. It's a VM, so of course it doesn't run as well as native code. That however, is why things will display the same regardless of what browser and HW you're using.
While HTML5 is great for video (well, there still are issues with that ... but let's disregard it for a second), it does nothing for vector graphics. At this point, there is no open source spec that is remotely ready for primetime. SVG is the closest, and it ain't really close at all.
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