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Armored Core IV! Hype !

Oh wow. 4 reviews out now, and all 4 shat upon this game. This sounds like the end of the Armored Core franchise. Sad. I was waiting for this after my sub-par experience playing Chromehounds online, and now I am disappointed yet again.

I havent played a really, really, rock-my-face-off Mecha game since Heavy Gear II. I wish someone would resurrect that franchise. :(
 
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Man, you kids still haven't learned; have you? :lol

Combine the hilarity of people expecting this to be the second coming of ZoE2, and the fact you're placing credence on the reviews that have historically been shit regardless of the actual quality of the games.
 
Enron said:
Oh wow. 4 reviews out now, and all 4 shat upon this game. This sounds like the end of the Armored Core franchise. Sad. I was waiting for this after my sub-par experience playing Chromehounds online, and now I am disappointed yet again.

I havent played a really, really, rock-my-face-off Mecha game since Heavy Gear II. I wish someone would resurrect that franchise. :(
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Chromehounds, a sub par online experience?! HERESY!!!!!
 
Armored Core is critic-proof. Just like Dynasty Warriors. Has any AC game gotten a half decent review since Armored Core 2? I think some of the newer ones (like Nexus) kinda sucked. But I'm still a fan. I fully expect the reviews to call it boring garbage. But who buys games based off of "professional" reviews anyway?

I tried to get a copy of the 360 version to no avail--to my surprise Tetris Evolution was out on the 360. I'm all over that.
 
I'm... really surprised that GameTrailers did that comparison without showing whether or not the gamma settings were the same. You're given the option to set the brightness to whatever you'd like right from the start, so I have a hard time believing there's that much of a disparity, but rest assured (at least in the PS3 version), you can raise/lower that lighting in-game.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
nelson_haha.gif

Man, you kids still haven't learned; have you? :lol

Combine the hilarity of people expecting this to be the second coming of ZoE2, and the fact you're placing credence on the reviews that have historically been shit regardless of the actual quality of the games.
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Say what you want about the review sites, but when all of them shit upon a game like this its usually a bad game. Not many of the user reviews i've read on forums have been positive, either.
 
Enron said:
Say what you want about the review sites, but when all of them shit upon a game like this its usually a bad game. Not many of the user reviews i've read on forums have been positive, either.
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AC is a series though, and if you don't have someone reviewing who knows the series, then it's the same as getting someone who knows nothing about football covering the next Madden. They might come in expecting the game to work in a certain way, and be unwilling to adjust to the way it's meant to be played. Not saying it's the case here, but that's usually how the AC series suffers in the reviews.
 
Aaron said:
AC is a series though, and if you don't have someone reviewing who knows the series, then it's the same as getting someone who knows nothing about football covering the next Madden. They might come in expecting the game to work in a certain way, and be unwilling to adjust to the way it's meant to be played. Not saying it's the case here, but that's usually how the AC series suffers in the reviews.
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QFT, Armored Core is a fun series if you're willing to sit down and learn it. It's not pick up and play friendly. It's also got a lot of complicated sim elements that will turn off people.

I love the game and will be picking it up on Friday.
 
Well MHF and Lost Planet received pretty bad reviews, but I still had a real blast with them (and I find them better then most 7-8 score games seriously!). Beejeebes games should have either a score of:
1)A must buy
2)Buy if you like the genre/type
3)Do not touch with 20 foot pole aka Gundam:Target in sight score.

Number scores errm well I'm not really sure, I guess I am picking my copy up on Saturday (I do hope the multiplayer is not region locked).

Edit: ** If you want I've know I rather play MHF and Lost Planet then a game that got a 9 or a 10 (I forgotten the real score but it was rated WAY too high) on the 1up show :) **
 
The reviews are pretty much the same I've been seening for years. It's a niche game that sticks to their formula and gets knocked for it every time. As for the differences between the versions, looks like the PS3 version gets the shaft.......again........goddamnit.
 
heard AC4 is actually dumbed down a bit and made easier to play for newbs... if this is true i may check it out because i tried previous AC games and was put off by the super mechiness of it.
 
KTallguy said:
QFT, Armored Core is a fun series if you're willing to sit down and learn it. It's not pick up and play friendly. It's also got a lot of complicated sim elements that will turn off people.

I love the game and will be picking it up on Friday.
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Yep, for those unfamiliar - ZOE : Burnout :: Armored Core : Gran Turismo
 
From videos I seen it looked just like the old armoured cores in gameplay, plus this one has online. Guess its for the fans only then?
 
Aaron said:
AC is a series though, and if you don't have someone reviewing who knows the series, then it's the same as getting someone who knows nothing about football covering the next Madden. They might come in expecting the game to work in a certain way, and be unwilling to adjust to the way it's meant to be played. Not saying it's the case here, but that's usually how the AC series suffers in the reviews.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. But usually I can find a few positive reviews of an AC game by people who do know the AC series. What im seeing is that in addition to the gaming sites all shitting on this, and the average joe blow gamer shitting on this, is that people who have some experience with the AC series are shitting on it as well.
 
Af anyone picks up a copy of the 360 japanese version, could he/she please tell what's in the Media Archive and if it's worthy to pick up ?

Thanks !
 
Ignis said:
Af anyone picks up a copy of the 360 japanese version, could he/she please tell what's in the Media Archive and if it's worthy to pick up ?

Thanks !
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I'll get my japanese copy tomorrow. What's the media archive though?
 
Gamestop review at least gives the game a chance.

Other then the short mission the game seems solid.

I'll wait til a few more impressions from people here & I might give a go.
 
Ignis said:
Sorry I messed up with the name... it is actually called "Extra Archive" ^^'

It's the preorder bonus.
From the pics I saw, it's an artbook with a DVD and stickers.

But I absolutely don't know what they put inside...

Edit : Okay, now I found :)
http://www.armoredcore.net/ac4/campaign/index.html


I'll still be waiting for your first play comments tomorrow ^^
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Ok so there is a DVD, with all the trailers released starting E3 05. Meh. And a story booklet.
 
theultimo said:
Quicker Play, overboosting is not needed much anymore.

AP levels changed, new system for energy/damage, controls like Nexus.

Arena still = freaking hard, however you have access to all parts to install without having to buy them (saved only for mission mode)
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Count me in for the PS3 version; I loved Nexus. I'll let the graphics tarts and next-gen bandwagoners argue on about which version has better graphics...
 
rented this...

for the fence sitters who have played past AC games and didn't really like it but where thinking of taking the next-gen plunge because WOW PRETTY GRAPHICS! ... i'd recommend saving your money...
 
m0dus said:
I will say this: Holy shit, the targeting is aweful. I mean the autotargeting demonstrates no logical priority that I can see, and when it's shut off, it STILL seems to be on, as I can't lock onto a specific target at all (you want to shoot that giant rail-cannon? go right ahe--whoops! looks like you're shooting the worthless gun turret next to it now. Mission Failure!)
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Use Type B Controls and make sure to aim with the right stick. I agree it takes some practice and the learning curve is steep, but it's a lot of fun once you get the controls down.

You can click L3 to lock onto a target but it's usually unnecessary.
 
I want to know how online handles and if its fun also, like other AC games offline is realy dull and just gets done to unlock parts for the arena stages, etc. For what I remember anyway it's been a long time.

Also any word on region free? It would be a nice game to import and save money on.
 
Diablohead said:
I want to know how online handles and if its fun also, like other AC games offline is realy dull and just gets done to unlock parts for the arena stages, etc. For what I remember anyway it's been a long time.

Also any word on region free? It would be a nice game to import and save money on.
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Which version are u looking for? The Japanese and Asian version are both only in Japanese language.
 
bigswords said:
Which version are u looking for? The Japanese and Asian version are both only in Japanese language.
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I thought the US copy hit shelves just the other day?

*edit* oh right, im in the UK and own a 360.
 
snorggy said:
rented this...

for the fence sitters who have played past AC games and didn't really like it but where thinking of taking the next-gen plunge because WOW PRETTY GRAPHICS! ... i'd recommend saving your money...
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really? can you post anything more than a non informative blurb about why it should be skipped?

so far I only really heard:
-short missions
-auto targetting sucks

what else
 
FTWer said:
really? can you post anything more than a non informative blurb about why it should be skipped?

so far I only really heard:
-short missions
-auto targetting sucks

what else
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The game is very difficult at times, you need to learn how to play different builds or you'll die quickly.

PS3 has some slowdown but it doesn't really get too bad.

One mission I liked was a nighttime one where flares would shoot up and give you light so you could target enemies, the lighting effects are phenomenal!

I really like the complexity of the mech customization. You can spend hours tweaking every little thing, but you can also set a lot of stuff to auto adjust itself, which is nice too.

Online on PS3 is pretty sweet. You can access your buddy list in game, go in and invite them to an online game directly. There's no voice chat, but there's some text chat. Really unfortunate about the lack of voice chat but my friends and I just use Teamspeak :lol

I dunno, for someone who's loved mech sims all their life (Started on Mechwarrior 1 baby!), it's hard not to recommend this. You'll find it annoyingly hard at first, but once you get the hang of it, stick with it, use four fingers on the top triggers while aiming with the analog stick to target (get used to this at the beginning or you'll cripple yourself later), and have fun with it!
 
KTallguy said:
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I dunno, for someone who's loved mech sims all their life (Started on Mechwarrior 1 baby!), it's hard not to recommend this. You'll find it annoyingly hard at first, but once you get the hang of it, stick with it, use four fingers on the top triggers while aiming with the analog stick to target (get used to this at the beginning or you'll cripple yourself later), and have fun with it!
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Thanks for the tip, got anymore before I start playing :) ? I bought the game yesterday but have yet to play it. And if anyone has the 360 version and wants to play some team DM online send me a friend request(gt is purg3).
 
m0dus said:
I'd be interested in getting people together tonight to run some games online (I'll host)

Xbox 360, of course. Interested parties (if anyone else has it yet), reply away.
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I'm going to crack the case in about 15 minutes (got to eat first), I bought this game against my better judgment. Here's to hoping that I find it decent (I loathe the fact that there is no penalty for boosting)

You're on my friends list already just give me the time.
 
FTWer said:
really? can you post anything more than a non informative blurb about why it should be skipped?

so far I only really heard:
-short missions
-auto targetting sucks

what else
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actually i can't say much more.. it's kinda like trying to explain why you don't like peas... the game just clashes against my personal taste in games...

it's a competent enough game and i can see how people might like it, but basically i thought the missions were kind of boring, and found the mech customization to be a little too confusing... i'm not the kind of guy that likes to sit there and tweak equipment...

so if you didn't like past AC games, this one won't change your mind... thus it's skippable... that's basically what i was saying in my original post.
 
what the ****.

The missions dont seem to have any context, and most of them last 30 seconds. What is this garbage? What did I just buy?
 
shuri said:
what the ****.

The missions dont seem to have any context, and most of them last 30 seconds. What is this garbage? What did I just buy?
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Some missions can be finished very quickly, some of them take longer.
The missions in general aren't long sorties, they're more like quick hit and run and go.

Later, you'll see longer missions.

BobTheFork said:
where? i looked all over the japanese sfore
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Xbox 360 demo.
 
I just put in about 5 hours in one sitting. At first I really was not feeling this game, mainly due to the controls. But after a little bit of practice, they don't bother me anymore. I'm having more fun doing the data pack fights, than the actual missions though.

Some questions, what is the best way to build your own mech? Should I just load a schematic and customize from there, because this is far more confusing than Chromehounds right now. And what are some of the better all around weapons to use?

Also, how the hell do you beat the Aerial Interdiction mission in chapter 3?

Other than that, I'm enjoying the game and hopefully I'll see some of you guys online soon.
 
purgeface said:
I just put in about 5 hours in one sitting. At first I really was not feeling this game, mainly due to the controls. But after a little bit of practice, they don't bother me anymore. I'm having more fun doing the data pack fights, than the actual missions though.

Some questions, what is the best way to build your own mech? Should I just load a schematic and customize from there, because this is far more confusing than Chromehounds right now. And what are some of the better all around weapons to use?

Also, how the hell do you beat the Aerial Interdiction mission in chapter 3?

Other than that, I'm enjoying the game and hopefully I'll see some of you guys online soon.
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data pack fights?
 
B-Ri said:
data pack fights?
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After Ch.2 you unlock the simulator in ACSIS. By completing chapters you unlock data packs. You can also unlock them by completing other data packs. Basically they are 1v1 matches against other Next's. If you beat them you get the schematic, a bunch of money, and achievements too.
 
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