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Well I recently found out that a intel i7 950 + 1GB HD 5870 + 12GB of DDR3 ram @ 1333mhz = no leaving home or upgrading for the next 2 years. :lol Jesus Christ never seen so much eye fuck in my life when i went over a friends house yesterday and seen it all in action. It ran so smooth with no lag or stuttering at all. He had the beautiful Asus VW266H Monitor as well. Meaning 2ms response time playing crisis.

I wept.
 
Revelations said:
Well I recently found out that a intel i7 950 + 1GB HD 5870 + 12GB of DDR3 ram @ 1333mhz = no leaving home or upgrading for the next 2 years. :lol Jesus Christ never seen so much eye fuck in my life when i went over a friends house yesterday and seen it all in action. It ran so smooth with no lag or stuttering at all. He had the beautiful Asus VW266H Monitor as well. Meaning 2ms response time playing crisis.

I wept.
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PC gaming. Wins. Again.:D
 
Revelations said:
Well I recently found out that a intel i7 950 + 1GB HD 5870 + 12GB of DDR3 ram @ 1333mhz = no leaving home or upgrading for the next 2 years. :lol Jesus Christ never seen so much eye fuck in my life when i went over a friends house yesterday and seen it all in action. It ran so smooth with no lag or stuttering at all. He had the beautiful Asus VW266H Monitor as well. Meaning 2ms response time playing crisis.

I wept.
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I can say that an Intel i7 860 @2,8 ghz combined with an Radeon HD5850 1GB and 4GB DDR3 ram has about the same result and set me back around 1000 euro(including case, new HDD etc.). I went with some quality parts this time around and it really shows, Crysis runs so smooth now and I can't wait for some more DX11 eye candy(Tesselation FTW!) and performance.

I was also surprised at the gameplay, I read that Crysis was just a standard shooter but they were cleary wrong and just pissed that they couldn't run the game. :lol

This is the biggest leap in performance I've seen in a while. It must be the combination of Windows 7 and a card that can run Crysis(an Nvidia showcase game to boot!) on Ultra High. Not to mention that other recent releases run smooth as butter as well.
 
So I'm assuming people don't use VGA anymore to connect their monitors to their PC's. What's currently the best connection system between graphics card and monitor? DVI? HDMI?

SuperEnemyCrab said:
PC gaming. Wins. Again.:D
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My jaw literally just dropped. Never seen a rig run crysis smoothly before. So I was in unfamiliar territory. hence my surprirsed nature.

[Nintex] said:
I can say that an Intel i7 860 @2,8 ghz combined with an Radeon HD5850 1GB and 4GB DDR3 ram has about the same result and set me back around 1000 euro(including case, new HDD etc.). I went with some quality parts this time around and it really shows, Crysis runs so smooth now and I can't wait for some more DX11 eye candy(Tesselation FTW!) and performance.

I was also surprised at the gameplay, I read that Crysis was just a standard shooter but they were cleary wrong and just pissed that they couldn't run the game. :lol

This is the biggest leap in performance I've seen in a while. It must be the combination of Windows 7 and a card that can run Crysis(an Nvidia showcase game to boot!) on Ultra High. Not to mention that other recent releases run smooth as butter as well.
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Well i say if you got the money and PC gaming as well as general PC performance is your life then go for it. With 12 fucking GB of ram the guy can run crysis, L4D2 and run itunes and Zune software all at once with probably no hit whatsoever. :lol I'm at 2GB and running just a simple game of armada online and steam together chugs my system along. >_>
 
Revelations said:
So I'm assuming people don't use VGA anymore to connect their monitors to their PC's. What's currently the best connection system between graphics card and monitor? DVI? HDMI?


My jaw literally just dropped. Never seen a rig run crysis smoothly before. So I was in unfamiliar territory. hence my surprirsed nature.
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That's actually the same. The signal is digital on both accounts.
 
Firestorm said:
Revelations, he means DVI and HDMI would be the same. Both would be better than VGA. Also, 12GB isn't really doing him that much good. He'd be fine with 6 in the case of his i7 or 4GB in the case of an i5.
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Sweet. Then he should have no problem giving me that extra 6GB. :D
 
[Nintex] said:
I can say that an Intel i7 860 @2,8 ghz combined with an Radeon HD5850 1GB and 4GB DDR3 ram has about the same result and set me back around 1000 euro(including case, new HDD etc.). I went with some quality parts this time around and it really shows, Crysis runs so smooth now and I can't wait for some more DX11 eye candy(Tesselation FTW!) and performance.

I was also surprised at the gameplay, I read that Crysis was just a standard shooter but they were cleary wrong and just pissed that they couldn't run the game. :lol

This is the biggest leap in performance I've seen in a while. It must be the combination of Windows 7 and a card that can run Crysis(an Nvidia showcase game to boot!) on Ultra High. Not to mention that other recent releases run smooth as butter as well.
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Yes, not only are the graphics out of this world so is the gameplay, especially the first half of the game.

Amazing the amount of hate this fantastic game has recieved.
 
DennisK4 said:
Yes, not only are the graphics out of this world so is the gameplay, especially the first half of the game.

Amazing the amount of hate this fantastic game has recieved.
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Well, as someone outside pc gaming at the time everybody seemed to use it for dick waving contest and the way it was advertised and talked about screamed style (meaning graphics) over substance.

Plus I was less then impressed by it´s animations, which are really important to me. This super awesome never-seen-before-zomg-graphics-let´s-jizz-in-my-pants game came out and you still look like floating fists with a gun. I was disappointed.

But now I can´t wait to play with all the praise from gaf. And a lot of other games. Couch plus 5.1 plus 42" screen plus a pc that´s surprisingly affordable for its power AND quite eco-friendly? Games running at way over 60 fps that my consoles can´t get at a steady 30 in sub-hd? Yes, please.

Too bad 5850s are scarce in Germany and only the really expensive shops stock them :/ But I hope that I might get one at the end of the month or early November.

But I want it now, tomorrow is my birthday and I can´t give myself the new pc I want D:
 
So I got my 5870 and my Samsung 2233rz in the mail recently. Since this is my third monitor I figured I'd hook up some eyefinity action and see how that worked out.

In short, not well.

Two things I've found out that WON'T work with the setup I'm trying for.
A. The 5870's make the screen on a 120hz monitor jump like a jackrabbit on some applications. I'm told it's a driver issue and should be resolved soon, but still is a hassle.

B. The 5870 has 4 inputs (HDMI, 2 DVI'S, and 1 DP) but can only support 3 different devices. From what I'm told unless you go DVI DVI DP as your monitor setup your basically SOL. And of course none of my monitors support DP, so now I need to dish out another 85 - 100 dollars for the adapter that I need.

Now as an early adopter I have to accept some of blame for not doing my homework until after the fact. But damn does this shit suck.

Anyway I'm writing all of this for anyone out there who's thinking about doing what I did so they can avoid some of the headaches I had.

Other than that however the card and the montior have been working like a dream. Playing Crysis on it has been a real eye opener. It finally feels like I'm running it on the machine it was meant for (2.5 years after it was made!!!!) All bug and hiccups aside I don't regret my purchace one bit....
 
Binabik15 said:
But now I can´t wait to play with all the praise from gaf. And a lot of other games. Couch plus 5.1 plus 42" screen plus a pc that´s surprisingly affordable for its power AND quite eco-friendly? Games running at way over 60 fps that my consoles can´t get at a steady 30 in sub-hd? Yes, please.
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Play Crysis on Delta difficulty. It makes the game so much better and tense. You can always temporarily reduce the difficulty setting if a section proves too hard.

And remember using the silencer also reduces damage so the enemies can take more bullets. They also wear vests. I am mentioning this because of the stupid misguided critique the game got for having bullet-sponge enemies.
 
DennisK4 said:
Play Crysis on Delta difficulty. It makes the game so much better and tense. You can always temporarily reduce the difficulty setting if a section proves too hard.

And remember using the silencer also reduces damage so the enemies can take more bullets. They also wear vests. I am mentioning this because of the stupid misguided critique the game got for having bullet-sponge enemies.
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Also the enemies speak Korean so you don't know what they are saying.
 
MightyKAC said:
So I got my 5870 and my Samsung 2233rz in the mail recently. Since this is my third monitor I figured I'd hook up some eyefinity action and see how that worked out.

In short, not well.

Two things I've found out that WON'T work with the setup I'm trying for.
A. The 5870's make the screen on a 120hz monitor jump like a jackrabbit on some applications. I'm told it's a driver issue and should be resolved soon, but still is a hassle.

B. The 5870 has 4 inputs (HDMI, 2 DVI'S, and 1 DP) but can only support 3 different devices. From what I'm told unless you go DVI DVI DP as your monitor setup your basically SOL. And of course none of my monitors support DP, so now I need to dish out another 85 - 100 dollars for the adapter that I need.

Now as an early adopter I have to accept some of blame for not doing my homework until after the fact. But damn does this shit suck.

Anyway I'm writing all of this for anyone out there who's thinking about doing what I did so they can avoid some of the headaches I had.

Other than that however the card and the montior have been working like a dream. Playing Crysis on it has been a real eye opener. It finally feels like I'm running it on the machine it was meant for (2.5 years after it was made!!!!) All bug and hiccups aside I don't regret my purchace one bit....
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What about HDMI? How does it fair with that connection only? And what is DP?
 
you guys with the new cards need to start posting some damn pretty screenshots in this thread, for a thread all about a graphics card there isn't much in the way of graphics to look at. also if possible turn the FPS counter on:)
 
MightyKAC said:
B. The 5870 has 4 inputs (HDMI, 2 DVI'S, and 1 DP) but can only support 3 different devices. From what I'm told unless you go DVI DVI DP as your monitor setup your basically SOL. And of course none of my monitors support DP, so now I need to dish out another 85 - 100 dollars for the adapter that I need.
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Hmmm, I don't know much about DP, but I thought one of the ATI slides mentioned that the monitor has to have DP built in and an adapter would not work for eyeinfinity?
 
vertopci said:
Hmmm, I don't know much about DP, but I thought one of the ATI slides mentioned that the monitor has to have DP built in and an adapter would not work for eyeinfinity?
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Incorrect. I've seen the card demoed with an adapter at Hard OCP.

Moreover, some of the first shots of the 6 DP Radeon had the card displaying via 6 adapters.
 
vertopci said:
Hmmm, I don't know much about DP, but I thought one of the ATI slides mentioned that the monitor has to have DP built in and an adapter would not work for eyeinfinity?
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I know of only one type of adapter that will work, it can't just be DVI in to DP out, it also has to provide a clock signal of some sort (I'm not an expert as you can probably tell) and it called an "active" adapter. Dell and Apple each have one and they're both ~ 100 dollars each.
 
DennisK4 said:
Play Crysis on Delta difficulty. It makes the game so much better and tense. You can always temporarily reduce the difficulty setting if a section proves too hard.

And remember using the silencer also reduces damage so the enemies can take more bullets. They also wear vests. I am mentioning this because of the stupid misguided critique the game got for having bullet-sponge enemies.
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It always seems like their faces absorb bullets and other times they go down in just a few.
 
DennisK4 said:
And remember using the silencer also reduces damage so the enemies can take more bullets. They also wear vests. I am mentioning this because of the stupid misguided critique the game got for having bullet-sponge enemies.
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True that, it pissed me off seing people slag the game off because there too used to playing shooty shooty bang bang death, along comes something with even the slightest ammount of depth in how you kill an enemy and people cant handle it.
 
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5850 showed up finally, and wow. Beats a 295, damn, by over 10%.
 
Zaptruder said:
Incorrect. I've seen the card demoed with an adapter at Hard OCP.

Moreover, some of the first shots of the 6 DP Radeon had the card displaying via 6 adapters.
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You're talking about the pictures in this very thread with mini-displayport to displayport adapters? Of course those would work.
 
This is my first post here so let me know if I'm doing something wrong

The following screens were taken on a 5850 paired with a 550BE unlocked to quad core and overclocked to 3.72GHz, as well as 4GB of ram. The FPS counter is in the top right.

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the results are pretty impressive considering that all of the image quality settings were set to max in CCC (8x edge detect super sample AA, 16x AF), and all in game settings were at enthusiast as well. The game runs at a pretty constant 30 fps with those settings turned down and a few in game settings switched from enthusiast to gamer. I can post more screens from crysis and other games if you guys want but I didn't want to clutter up the thread too much.
 
What program do you use to take screenshots and check the FPS(the console of the game?). I have been out of the PC gaming loop and pressing print screen didn't work. I remember Half Life 2 having a screenshot tool, does Crysis have this too?
 
Here are some shots from Arma2 on a XFX 5850 running at 775mhz/1125mhz, settings: 1920x1080 everything very high. Gets steady 35-50fps, some dips in extreme firefights. Thank God for my battle hardened cat-like reflexes, that al qaeda trained rooster nearly got me! :D

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Terrifyer said:
This is my first post here so let me know if I'm doing something wrong

The following screens were taken on a 5850 paired with a 550BE unlocked to quad core and overclocked to 3.72GHz, as well as 4GB of ram. The FPS counter is in the top right.

the results are pretty impressive considering that all of the image quality settings were set to max in CCC (8x edge detect super sample AA, 16x AF), and all in game settings were at enthusiast as well. The game runs at a pretty constant 30 fps with those settings turned down and a few in game settings switched from enthusiast to gamer. I can post more screens from crysis and other games if you guys want but I didn't want to clutter up the thread too much.
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Standard 5850 or overclocked?

Damn, my mother insisted on giving me money in addition to the 360 pc controller and the book as a present, now I don´t know if I should upgrade to the 5870.

But I doubt I´ll need it, since nobody uses the cryengine for other games and the 5850 should run everything but Crysis well at 1080p, right?
 
Here's some GTA IV running on an i5 oc'd to 3.2, 4gb ram and an xfx 5850 oc'd to 775/1125.
I've got a couple of mods installed to make it look better, too.
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TouchMyBox said:
You're talking about the pictures in this very thread with mini-displayport to displayport adapters? Of course those would work.
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Is that what they were? Ok maybe not DVI, but I was thinking HDMI.

Either way, display port to DVI works fine.
 
I wanted to wait to upgrade my 14 month old 9800gx2, but I wanna play GTAIV with higher settings. Being limited to ~500mb ram is killing it. Maybe I can hold out a bit longer, but i'm pretty impulsive.
 
blackMamba1187 said:
I wanted to wait to upgrade my 14 month old 9800gx2, but I wanna play GTAIV with higher settings. Being limited to ~500mb ram is killing it. Maybe I can hold out a bit longer, but i'm pretty impulsive.
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Yeah really... I'm holding out for the 2GB/4GB X2 config. Should be mad.
 
Zaptruder said:
Is that what they were? Ok maybe not DVI, but I was thinking HDMI.

Either way, display port to DVI works fine.
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THIS is the adapter I ordered from Amazon.

Apparently this one and the one made by Apple are my only options for Eyefinity to work going from DP to DVI.
 
Revelations said:
...about 875 watts I believe. But I don't think thats minimum. Maybe 575 wattage power supply minimal.
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I'm running a Shuttle PC SX58H7 with a 500w power supply and its doing just fine.
 
MightyKAC said:
THIS is the adapter I ordered from Amazon.

Apparently this one and the one made by Apple are my only options for Eyefinity to work going from DP to DVI.
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Hmm... now that you mention it, they did have to use the apple one, which they called shite.

ATI! What were you thinking?!
 
nice gta4 performance. I'm on an E7200 oc'd and a 4850. I run gta4 at 1920x1200 with these settings and get 15 - 20fps. I know a quad would make a huge difference, But its interesting to see that a 5850 will get it going to 30ish fps.

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[Nintex] said:
What program do you use to take screenshots and check the FPS(the console of the game?). I have been out of the PC gaming loop and pressing print screen didn't work. I remember Half Life 2 having a screenshot tool, does Crysis have this too?
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Download FRAPS - its free and is the easiest way to take screenshots and see the fps.
 
DennisK4 said:
Download FRAPS - its free and is the easiest wat to take screenshots and see the fps.
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Allright, thanks, so far I've installed Red Alert 3, Dead Space, Crysis so I'll post some screenshots soon.
 
Sleeker said:
GTAIV would look so much better if it didnt have those jaggies everywhere
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GTA IV with 2x2 Supersampling Anti-Aliasing (4xSSAA) - playable at about 25 fps.
I also tried 3x3 Supersampling (9xSSAA) but is was not playable (below 10 fps).

GTA IV really, really needs AA - the jaggies are extremely annoying.
Both the screenshots below were taken at 1680x1050, but the one with 2x2 SSAA had to be rendered by the GPU at 3360x2100.

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The rest are all with 2x2 SSAA





 
SuperEnemyCrab said:
Here are some shots from Arma2 on a XFX 5850 running at 775mhz/1125mhz, settings: 1920x1080 everything very high. Gets steady 35-50fps, some dips in extreme firefights. Thank God for my battle hardened cat-like reflexes, that al qaeda trained rooster nearly got me! :D
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Nice shots there Crab, and 1920x1080 everythingh very high with 35-50 fps is very impressive. I assume no AA though ?

I love Arma 2 and it is one of the reasons I will be upgrading to one of the 5870 series cards soon.
 
DennisK4 said:
The rest are all with 2x2 SSAA
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Wow. I think that really looks better than CGI from about 12-15 years ago. It's amazing how powerful PC's have gotten is such as short time span.
 
I'm trying to catch up with PC gaming after being out for 2-3 years so the 5870 seems like some hyper-impossible, theoretical, device that will never be available. It just seems so far above and beyond what I expected was possible. I'm so impressed with those GTA4 shots

Anyway I have a request: can someone who owns one of these wonder devices post some screens of Left 4 Dead? It runs on my Core 2 Duo machine (with a Geforce 8500) but I want to see what I'm missing with it running on a top-end machine :D I can run it at 1680x1050 with mid-high settings so anything above would be cool for me see
 
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