I'll have to have a look at the 4 pics first before I make a final judgement on how I should react.
Would love to see the original pictures and the censored ones to see how bad they were that the localization team found themselves in the need to actually censor them. If there are characters here that look underage and have fanservice CGs, I'm all in for censoring or outright removing them.
You shouldnt really care. Since truthfully with how the US and the West for that matter is with moral values, it makes perfect sense that they have to censor it. The bottom line is regardless of what you think, they needed to edit specific images which their localization and quite possibly legal team would have considered problematic as the images would be considered a "nude / nearly nude" underaged character.
Plus it is appreciated that they decided to man up and tell everyone straight up ahead of time. Instead of either not saying anything knowing that not a lot of the consumers would have played the original so they wouldnt know any better or trying to toss it out there right before launch when the majority of pre-orders are already in.
Honestly them speaking up would do more potential damage than not saying anything really. Since folks would not have known otherwise and its not like there was some large number of people who played the import copies either.
You just answered your own question.
Darn moral values -.- lol
But yeah, if what was censored was for things that were "too much" then I'm fine.
Didn't The Guy Game get nerfed from stores for having an underage girl in it?
BMX XXX is bike game with stripper videos
M rating
The Guy Game is a spring break party game with girls losing their tops
M rating
This is a cutesy looking dungeon game with a few fanservice pictures that don't show any nudity
AO rating before censors
good job, ESRB
Yeah. Just cutesy little girls...
If the images edited are anything like the ones edited/removed from Monster Monpiece then it's easily understandable.
We'll find out soon enough I suppose.
The thing I don't get is that by making it AO, the ESRB is saying its okay for adults to see half naked little girls but teens can't. I've never gotten that... its either legal or its not, why should ESRB change their ratings based on the age of the characters?
AO is basically them saying "censor this or don't bother localizing it" because none of the big three console makers will allow AO games on their platforms.
The thing I don't get is that by making it AO, the ESRB is saying its okay for adults to see half naked little girls but teens can't. I've never gotten that... its either legal or its not, why should ESRB change their ratings based on the age of the characters?
And at the same time, you can watch anime like High School DxD or Strike Witches with underage girls naked through the services provided on the systems.
Hypocrisy everywhere.
You shouldnt really care. Since truthfully with how the US and the West for that matter is with moral values, it makes perfect sense that they have to censor it. The bottom line is regardless of what you think, they needed to edit specific images which their localization
I've always wondered how anime itself gets a free pass. Then again, they are not rated through the MPAA or whoever the tv division of that is. ESRB/PEGI is different with all their regulations.
Edit: Then again, anime is on Hulu/Netflix etc...
I'm not surprised at all. The only reason I wrote this off coming out here was the fanservice I've heard this game has. I mean if they were bad enough to push it into an AO rating then I fully understand. I'm here for the gameplay and not the 'plot'.
Of course this is turning out to be a big thing in certain circles.
Meanwhile, I look up some of this game's CGs on Sankaku Complex and... good riddance. Holy crap this is gross; and a game that presents itself this way is supposed to be good? More than a bit surprising.
I want to stress again that the changes to the images are just minor edits. A lot of people are quick to assume that its nudity-related, when even the Japanese version had no full-nudity images. As a company, we looked at all the games content and identified the images that we assumed would be the most difficult to get by ratings boards. Through consultations, we were made aware of what images would have pushed the game to an AO rating, a classification that would prevent the game from being releasable in the US, period.
So what did we do? We tried to do right by our fans: we took the feedback about the images and worked with the developer to keep the images in question as close to the original as possible, but reduce their objectionable nature. We do not plan on releasing the unedited images, but the changes are so minor, we are confident that its as close to the Japanese release as possibly allowed.
There's some more clarification from Atlus here.
There's some more clarification from Atlus here.
I just checked and this is PEGI 12 in Europe, think about that.
Where do you see that? If its true it makes this censoring even more ridiculous.
Europe doesn't mind sexuality as much as the US does.
In the NISA trailer.Where do you see that? If its true it makes this censoring even more ridiculous.
Are you sure they said that about Europe?NISAs excuse about why Criminal Girls had to be censored was because of certain Europe regions would force the game to be unrated by PEGI. I don't know whos offended by what anymore.
And at the same time, you can watch anime like High School DxD or Strike Witches with underage girls naked through the services provided on the systems.
Hypocrisy everywhere.
In the US in particular things that would be deemed as nude underaged characters have been an off limits matter for quite some time now. Its why things like the early episodes of Dragon Ball Z they went and put pants on Goku which looked like they went and awkwardly pasted underpants graphics in MS paint onto him so it just animated hilariously bad at the time.
While the topic of scrutiny is different CERO for example is super picky as fuck to the point of it being irritating in regards to things like gore and violence.
Its just regional differences with standards and such. But within both regions if companies do not abide by these standards then the game will not be allowed to be released. Which means D: for everyone.
You just answered your own question.