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Bamco Producer - "Which Ace Combat/Ridge Racer remake do you want to see?"
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Poimandres
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The Ridge PSP games are genius. Total love letter to fans of the series, so much content!
Anyway, I agree that Type 4 has the best "style" but if they are going the remake route I hope that is what they keep but they expand/change the structure of the game.
Anyway, I agree that Type 4 has the best "style" but if they are going the remake route I hope that is what they keep but they expand/change the structure of the game.
xemumanic
Member
Stupid meme kinda helped kill that for a while. Here's hoping the next game can fix that.
Who needs splitscreen when you have this
Yeah, exactly.
BTW I found that entire article from EDGE (it's nicer than its sister version in NG).
Remembrance
Member
I've been learning the joys of drifting for the very first time via Ridge Racer PSP.
Can we just have Ridge Racer 2 PSP over here? I'm not remotely done with this on handheld.
Can we just have Ridge Racer 2 PSP over here? I'm not remotely done with this on handheld.
I agree with everything in this post.
Ok, I've given this some thought now... I think it's a horrible idea, that's apparently getting worse.
Does anyone know how to contact the Bamco Producer who wrote this poll? I want to write to him and make suggestions on what would make a good RR game and to thank him for keeping an open mind about the series.
I haven't played R4 but I've heard the soundtrack and damn, that is one helluva soundtrack. I'd be really excited if BN goes through with a remake of R4, since this console gen feels like it's missing something without an RR title. And more arcade racers / more Japanese console games are always a good thing.
Real Racing Roots '99 was such a simple but brilliant thing to add to the Ridge Racer series. By providing a context and a basic narrative to the main Grand Prix mode, it made the silly little three lap races you do feel like they were actually important and meant something to someone.
Also, I totally had a crush on Sophie Chevalier as a kid...
Yup, one of the most iconic soundtracks in gaming.
Hah, I always went MMM as my team because I always liked the story as simple as it was.
xemumanic
Member
Yes! Tie it in as a pre order Bonus for Ace Combat 7 on Steam and I'm SOLD.
Oh yes, AC 7 had BETTER come to PC, with Oculus Rift support. It's a UE4 title, so that keeps my hopes up. Bamco has been making a lot of PC ports as of late, so I hope this comes.
Rift support is a MUST for any of their new RR or AC games IMO!
I heavily updated a post I made in the thread: 20 Years of PlayStation - RIDGE RACER interview on Eurogamer.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141438295&postcount=9
A lot more extensive articles that ran in EDGE, which were either cut back in Next Generation, or not there at all.
Bonus: EGM confuses Rage Racer with Rave Racer.
They got it right, the next time tho.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141438295&postcount=9
A lot more extensive articles that ran in EDGE, which were either cut back in Next Generation, or not there at all.
Bonus: EGM confuses Rage Racer with Rave Racer.
They got it right, the next time tho.
DearestJuliet
Banned
TYPE-4!!!!!!
I heavily updated a post I made in the thread: 20 Years of PlayStation - RIDGE RACER interview on Eurogamer.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141438295&postcount=9
A lot more extensive articles that ran in EDGE, which were either cut back in Next Generation, or not there at all.
Bonus: EGM confuses Rage Racer with Rave Racer.
They got it right, the next time tho.
In case I haven't said it before, I seriously love all these retro scans you're always posting.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
And I'm sitting here wondering if WB Games will ever rerelease a pixel perfect port of Rush 2049 SE for consoles and PC...
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
RR4 has stood the test of time, so doesn't need to be remade. RR5 deserves another try.
Rage Racer is awesome. In some ways it is more appealing than Type 4. If Type 4 wasn't an option then Rage Racer is a no brainer.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Good to know AC5 won.
That game is a freaking masterpiece.
I would love a remake I can play in PC. And no nostalgia here. I played it last year after tracking it with an old ps2.
I would also really want to see a FULL remake of Electrosphere. Its a pity that the real game never arrived to us. Glad is in draw with AC4 in the poll.
And who want another remake of AC2? that game was already remade on the 3DS.
I think one of the worst parts of 4 is how the story is presented. You have no stakes in it, and at the beggining you dont even know which characters you are playing from the "animated" cutscenes. 5 is a little more into you face story type, but I say this in a good way. The wishy washy lore type of story that tries to pull your strings with some badly narrated scenes can go and fuck off. I didnt give a fuck of any of the characters that appared here.
5 and Zero where MUCH better in that department. And I know some people prefer the non epic music of AC4 ost, but yeah.... Lets say I think they are all fucking lunatics
Hell, I even undertstand more how good was Mobius 1 as a pilot in the arcade mode on AC5, and that thing had little story. I certainly didnt feel that way in AC4.
Also the gameplay variation of 4 is not its strong point. They types of missions are more varied in 5.
This man knows.
The game is so freaking good. The final missions just give me goosebumps. What about helping the the ships that want to return with the good guys while the song with lyrics plays in the radio chatter.
That game is a freaking masterpiece.
I would love a remake I can play in PC. And no nostalgia here. I played it last year after tracking it with an old ps2.
I would also really want to see a FULL remake of Electrosphere. Its a pity that the real game never arrived to us. Glad is in draw with AC4 in the poll.
And who want another remake of AC2? that game was already remade on the 3DS.
I think one of the worst parts of 4 is how the story is presented. You have no stakes in it, and at the beggining you dont even know which characters you are playing from the "animated" cutscenes. 5 is a little more into you face story type, but I say this in a good way. The wishy washy lore type of story that tries to pull your strings with some badly narrated scenes can go and fuck off. I didnt give a fuck of any of the characters that appared here.
5 and Zero where MUCH better in that department. And I know some people prefer the non epic music of AC4 ost, but yeah.... Lets say I think they are all fucking lunatics
Hell, I even undertstand more how good was Mobius 1 as a pilot in the arcade mode on AC5, and that thing had little story. I certainly didnt feel that way in AC4.
Also the gameplay variation of 4 is not its strong point. They types of missions are more varied in 5.
This man knows.
The game is so freaking good. The final missions just give me goosebumps. What about helping the the ships that want to return with the good guys while the song with lyrics plays in the radio chatter.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm glad R4 is the pole leader. That one deserves a cleanup. Great game and awesome soundtrack. Still listen to Revlimit Funk to this day.
type 4 is a terrible choice. that game is one of the finest, most coherent aesethic achievements in games and has aged beautifully. even trying really hard there's no way they don't undermine the music, the graphic design, the lighting effects of the tracks.
ridge racer 5 on the other hand could do with its incredible and series best drift mechanics being put in modern graphics.
ridge racer 5 on the other hand could do with its incredible and series best drift mechanics being put in modern graphics.
I think the point is that R4 stands well enough on its own as a retro classic even today than there isn't really much to gain from remaking/remastering it compared to other installments in the series.
I think it's a fair point.
Type 4 definitely has its issues though. I'd love to see a remake add a progression system more like RR6/7's instead of the lame "intentionally lose a race to unlock a different car" stuff repeated ad nausem. It would also allow them to expand the visual novel sections a bit more.
Sparkedglory
Member
GIVE ME ALL THE ACE COMBATS REMASTERED!!! I will give everything I have! Though honestly if I had to choose. I'd say 5. For Ridge Racer, RR Type 4
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
So true. Those games are like experiences in a way. Pristine awesome soundtracks too, particularly Rage Racer and R4 (the PSP games have some great songs as well).
It's worth it simply to expose it to a new generation that may not even know they'd be looking for a fun arcade racer w/ style, but maybe want something with more modernized graphics.
I've got no problem playing R4 again (it's sitting right here at my desk as I type); then again I can sit through Cremaster in one viewing. Point being, I can tolerate that generation's visual limitations b/c I mostly grew up w/ them, but there's maybe many kids today who can't (unless it's Minecraft). But they'd likely immensely enjoy the gameplay if they could get past that, or had that factor removed.
Just wish Sega would look at their stuff from that era the same way and at least attempt more digital rereleases beyond Genesis games
I heavily updated a post I made in the thread: 20 Years of PlayStation - RIDGE RACER interview on Eurogamer.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141438295&postcount=9
A lot more extensive articles that ran in EDGE, which were either cut back in Next Generation, or not there at all.
Bonus: EGM confuses Rage Racer with Rave Racer.
They got it right, the next time tho.
Wasn't Rave Racer the original arcade version of Ridge Racer?
I got it confused w/ Ridge Racer Revolution for a while, myself.
SolidSnakex
Member
But if they're looking to pick one that'll potentially resurrect the franchise, then R4 is the best choice. It's really the most "complete" RR package.
SolidChamp
Banned
Ridge Racer was the best PSP launch title alongside Lumines.
Would have loved a remake of that.
Would have loved a remake of that.
Don't get me wrong, I voted for R4 myself. It's definitely my favourite Ridge and I'd love to see the core elements of that game fleshed out a bit more and the game's unique style and graphic design brought into the HD era. But it's also a fair argument to say that it has aged well enough that there might not be much to gain from giving it a new coat of paint.
Ridge Racer: Xtreme Beach Volleyball
Nope. Rave Racer was it's own arcade game, the true follow-up to Ridge Racer, given that Ridge Racer 2 was just an update of the original.
-Arcade releases-
Ridge Racer - 1993
Ridge Racer 2 - 1994
Rave Racer - 1995
Ridge Racer V Arcade Battle - 2001
-PS1 releases-
Ridge Racer - 1994 / 1995
Ridge Racer Revolution - 1995 / 1996
Rage Racer - 1996 / 1997
R4: Ridge Racer Type 4 - 1998 / 1999
This is an actual preview of the Rave Racer arcade game from EDGE.
Again, these two EGM previews are of the same PS1 game, Rage Racer EGM fucked up by using the title Rave Racer on the first.
note the low resolution graphics - native 320 x 220 and European art design]
[System 22 Rave Racer arcade, native 640 x 480 graphics]
Ahh I see now what he meant. Fair point indeed.
I like where you're going with this
SolidSnakex
Member
That's why I think it's the best candidate. R4 still feels like a modern game even though it was released in 98. All it really needs is a technical makeover. Keep the artstyle and obviously heavily upgrade the technical aspects of the game (poly count, lighting, shaders etc.) and it's pretty much ready to go. As I mentioned earlier, while Rage is my favorite entry, R4 is the closest to being the perfect RR game. It has the least amount of things you need to improve to get it there. So it would make sense to use it as the game to try to get people back into the franchise.
Graphics Horse
Member
I kind of agree, and the psp games inherited the look of that game outside the menus already.
It would be nice to retun to the pre nitro era, I'd prefer it to be something new, but basing it around RRV would be a good start.
Looking at other magazines this afternoon, Ultra Game Players avoided the confusion and got things right with their Rage Racer PS1 preview.
In the late 90s, GP/UGP got better while EGM got worse, IMO.
Edit: from my updated post in the Ridge Racer thread, EDGE magazine was more in-depth on their NEC / VideoLogic / PowerVR / Namco PC port coverage. Pretty amazing stuff for 1995-1996.
In the late 90s, GP/UGP got better while EGM got worse, IMO.
Edit: from my updated post in the Ridge Racer thread, EDGE magazine was more in-depth on their NEC / VideoLogic / PowerVR / Namco PC port coverage. Pretty amazing stuff for 1995-1996.
I Raaage 'bout not getting Raaaaaaaaave Raaaaaaaaaaacer!
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Looks tasty. I'd like to play it sometime, and it's easy to see its influence on Revolution. But Namco's naming conventions for the RR games back then was really confusing.Nope. Rave Racer was it's own arcade game, the true follow-up to Ridge Racer, given that Ridge Racer 2 was just an update of the original.
-Arcade releases-
Ridge Racer - 1993
Ridge Racer 2 - 1994
Rave Racer - 1995
Ridge Racer V Arcade Battle - 2001
-PS1 releases-
Ridge Racer - 1994 / 1995
Ridge Racer Revolution - 1995 / 1996
Rage Racer - 1996 / 1997
R4: Ridge Racer Type 4 - 1998 / 1999
This is an actual preview of the Rave Racer arcade game from EDGE.
Again, these two EGM previews are of the same PS1 game, Rage Racer EGM fucked up by using the title Rave Racer on the first.
note the low resolution graphics - native 320 x 220 and European art design]
]
[System 22 Rave Racer arcade, native 640 x 480 graphics]
Very well said.
Played Rave Racer in the UK when it came out, saw it a few times near where I lived in the Chicago area. Loved it.
Rave Racer heavily influenced Rage Racer. Same Namco designer I believe.