Alethebeer
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Which is the team that ported Arkham Knight to PC? Is it Rocksteady?
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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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No outsourced to Iron Galaxy. I was under the impression Rocksteady was doing all versions, consoles and pc.
Well, WB's Executive Director of Marketing has already made a statement:
Know how I know you're not actually Batman?
I'm assuming they'd be at work in the UK already, but you never know. I don't expect to hear anything soon to be honest.
uh, I like to joke around that EST is the only time zone that matters but that's not actually the case.
Not sure why it being 5 here has any effect on what Rocksteady does.
mordecaii83
Member
Is SLI not working? I have 2 970's, only one of them is showing any activity while the game is running...
God help us all, they didn't even bother trying to make this good. Sent it to fucking Iron Galaxy, how are they even in business? They're the fucking Radio Shack of game studios.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah, they definitely knew it.
Zerozerozero
Member
So the real problem is the VRAM usage. My TitanX was using almost 7GB on 1080p! That's why people with 980ti and below are having so many problems with stuttering.
the_batman
Banned
flipswitch
Member
Serious? I thought it uses somewhere around the 3-4GB range.
Revolutionary
Member
Well, he's not wrong. It's the sad state of modern gaming.
UNREAL. This game is hogging everything.
It runs great for me with a Titan X at 1440p. I'm perched in the city seeing 72 fps with water and gameworks fog on the screen. That's about the same as TW3 on ultra without hairworks. Batmobile fps dipped to 60 when tearing around the city in non-combat.
I'm really glad Newegg took back my 970s because not a single game I bought last year had a SLI profile at launch. Many of them needed it too. It was the worst SLI support I'd seen in six years of using it.
You make it sound like they give a shit.
SmartWaffles
Member
Haha, this sounds like a total trainwreck. Can't refund due to Nvidia code.
Waiting for DF to confirm that the PS4 version is superior.
Pretty sure PS4 version is superior other than Gameworks stuff at this point.
It's a weird situation, though. Did Rocksteady themselves handle this port? I went ahead and bought the PS4 version on disc since it seems like the PC version isn't great (at least for my old 780). I'm stunned at how polished and impressive the game looks on PS4. The frame-rate is very very consistent and the level of detail and effects work is just remarkable. The game seems ready to jump in and out of anything without a single stutter or hiccup. You never see texture pop-in, LOD issues or stuttering of any sort. It just feels totally solid in a way that I didn't think would be possible especially when pushing UE3 in this way. When you first do the antenna scanning thing the game zooms out to show the entire city in a single shot with such a smooth pan that looks so natural. This is all WITHOUT the day 1 patch installed. Straight off the disc this is an insanely polished experience. I hope other developers take note.
The point is, this is the most polished console release we've seen in the last year, I'd say (outside of Nintendo's games), so it's absolutely fucking shocking to me that the PC version is running into so many issues. I'll test it when I get a chance since I have access to the PC version as well. I wonder if some of the issues are related to the way the game streams assets? It seems very aggressive in how quickly it moves between scenes and the pace of the game is very fast. Knowing how UE3 has, in the past, had stuttering and streaming issues on the PC it makes it seem like it's related to those old legacy issues. I suspect it would perform much nicer had they built the game in UE4.
I could not possibly disagree more. It still has some UE3 related issues but, overall, the quality of the visuals here is a massive step up from most other games on the market today. The animation, effects, and ability to transition so smoothly between everything is just incredible. I know some people just want ultra sharp visuals without any post-processing (which I find insane since that's basically moving in the opposite direction of CG) but surely you can appreciate what's going on in this game.
The detail is a generation beyond previous Batman Arkham titles.
Static Jak
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Unknown Soldier
Member
UNREAL. This game is hogging everything.
It runs great for me with a Titan X at 1440p. I'm perched in the city seeing 72 fps with water and gameworks fog on the screen. That's about the same as TW3 on ultra without hairworks. Batmobile fps dipped to 60 when tearing around the city in non-combat.
I'm really glad Newegg took back my 970s because not a single game I bought last year had a SLI profile at launch. Many of them needed it too. It was the worst SLI support I'd seen in six years of using it.
I feel like this game was specifically designed to kill the Fury X (releasing today) and it's 4 GB of HBM or something. I've never seen a game chew up my 980 Ti's entire 6 GB until now, I didn't even know games could USE that much VRAM or even how. Well, at 4K and 30 fps I don't notice much hitching so I guess 6 GB is enough for most of the game's textures and assets.
the_batman
Banned
Ah, well, that answers the question then.
Clearly that was the wrong move here considering how insanely polished the console experience is this time. Considering how close these systems are to PC hardware it does seem a bit odd that Rocksteady didn't handle things themselves. I know it would have been extra work but even if it meant a delay it may have been the better option.
flipswitch
Member
Does the PS4 ver feature per-object motion and/or general motion blur?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
The bat-scanner thing was also extremely impressive to me on PC, and actually ran flawlessly. Completely smooth, during the whole zooming and panning motions. Meanwhile sometimes just driving from one street to another results in stuttering.
Absolutely (both are included). It looks incredible.
Also love the particle lighting with smoke and rain drops receiving light from light sources.
Im not convinced Iron Galaxy handled this solo. Development of this game started before either console was more than numbers on a peice of paper and up until few months ago every video and demo was done on the PC version. So until we know more Im not gonna put the blame on them alone.
Static Jak
Member
Safe to say don't touch this for a few days, hell, maybe a few weeks if we're unlucky. Not worth the trouble of fighting to maintain a decent framerate that you have little control over.
Just, read a comic or something for your Batman fix for now.
Just, read a comic or something for your Batman fix for now.
UNREAL. This game is hogging everything.
It runs great for me with a Titan X at 1440p. I'm perched in the city seeing 72 fps with water and gameworks fog on the screen. That's about the same as TW3 on ultra without hairworks. Batmobile fps dipped to 60 when tearing around the city in non-combat.
I'm really glad Newegg took back my 970s because not a single game I bought last year had a SLI profile at launch. Many of them needed it too. It was the worst SLI support I'd seen in six years of using it.
Can I ask what dirvers you are using cause with my titan x at 1440p i Get about 60-50 fps runnign but fps in the 30s when driving using the new drivers.
flipswitch
Member
Good to hear. Someone posted an XB1 video yesterday and it looked really great. I thought maybe it wasn't present on ps4 but glad it is.
Tizoc
Member
I have an NVidia card, how do I disable SLI?
Windom Earle
Member
Huh? MSI afterburner OSD was running fine, then I restarted the game with new graphical settings, does not work anymore.
Taking a wild guess, they are probably the cheapest solution if you wanna "order" a PC port of your game.
Taking a wild guess, they are probably the cheapest solution if you wanna "order" a PC port of your game.
//DEVIL//
Member
Question.
is there a program that can display the fps of the game while i am playing ? " like something on the left or right side of the screen corners. ?
i want to know what is the fps i am hitting all the time.
preferably some small sized program that doesn't take much resources. i have ATI card here.
is there a program that can display the fps of the game while i am playing ? " like something on the left or right side of the screen corners. ?
i want to know what is the fps i am hitting all the time.
preferably some small sized program that doesn't take much resources. i have ATI card here.
You can disable it in the nvidia control panel where it says configure sli
TheVampire
Banned
UNREAL. This game is hogging everything.
It runs great for me with a Titan X at 1440p. I'm perched in the city seeing 72 fps with water and gameworks fog on the screen. That's about the same as TW3 on ultra without hairworks. Batmobile fps dipped to 60 when tearing around the city in non-combat.
I'm really glad Newegg took back my 970s because not a single game I bought last year had a SLI profile at launch. Many of them needed it too. It was the worst SLI support I'd seen in six years of using it.
Damn almost 6.5GB of VRAM used.
But then thats at 1440p....
Id probably play at 1080p
But 6GB original Titan should be able to handle the VRAM usage.
Guys, I really urge you to be patient and give them a chance to fix things.
Because the actual game underneath the performance issues is a ton of fun.
For what it's worth, the game is running very nicely maxed on my 1420mhz Titan X at 3412x1920 down sampled to my monitors native res of 2560x1440.
Now I realized not everyone here has a $1,000 GPU with 12GBs of VRAM, so my experience might be very rare. I believe there is an issue with the texture streaming and the game using up tons of VRAM, which would explain the stuttering on the majority of setups. Can any other Titan X owners concur with my statements?
Hopefully they can fix it soon so PC gamers with more modest hardware can have a smoother experience.
Because the actual game underneath the performance issues is a ton of fun.
For what it's worth, the game is running very nicely maxed on my 1420mhz Titan X at 3412x1920 down sampled to my monitors native res of 2560x1440.
Now I realized not everyone here has a $1,000 GPU with 12GBs of VRAM, so my experience might be very rare. I believe there is an issue with the texture streaming and the game using up tons of VRAM, which would explain the stuttering on the majority of setups. Can any other Titan X owners concur with my statements?
Hopefully they can fix it soon so PC gamers with more modest hardware can have a smoother experience.
//DEVIL//
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Steam
Just need to enable it in Settings->Overlay, I think
Really ? I never knew it had this option. are you sure it's in the settings -> Overlay ?
I am away from my home PC at the moment so i can't check it out. but thanks !
i will check that out too. Thanks !I
Unknown Soldier
Member
Use FRAPS
Krappadizzle
Member
But the thread you deserve.
Windom Earle
Member
Confirmed, Nvidia stuff breaks Afterburner OSD. Wow. Also getting "game has stopped working" every time I close it.
It's ironic that the first game to come out after the 970 release was Shadow of Mordor and now this after the 980 Ti. However, the cruelest thing would be if the game is causing 970 stutters in the last .5gb.
Yeah, those "game ready" batman ones that just came out. I'm on a one day old Windows 10 install. My wc'd Titan X is running the hydro copper bios (1354mhz boost) with no memory overclock at the moment. I had to reinstall my OS after DDU hosed it when trying to see if older drivers fixed the chrome driver crashing.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Hi Guys,
A quick one as i've not had time to work through the 40 pages of this thread so far.
I downloaded last night (yes all night, my broadband reaches speeds similar to a cup and string system) and booted quickly this morning.
I only ran the benchmark tool in the options menu but i was surprised it was as low as it is.
Question then: Is the scores from that tool indicative of actually gamplay?
I run 1440p (G-Sync) with 2x780Ti (16gb Ram, 4770k @4.3m SSD etc..). I get late 50s on Witcher 3 (with dips here and there) but on that benchmark the low point was.... 21.
21 ?
Twenty One!
So either tat tool is not indicative of gameplay (like Mordor) the game is very unoptimised or my 1 year old PC is ready for the bin now.
A quick one as i've not had time to work through the 40 pages of this thread so far.
I downloaded last night (yes all night, my broadband reaches speeds similar to a cup and string system) and booted quickly this morning.
I only ran the benchmark tool in the options menu but i was surprised it was as low as it is.
Question then: Is the scores from that tool indicative of actually gamplay?
I run 1440p (G-Sync) with 2x780Ti (16gb Ram, 4770k @4.3m SSD etc..). I get late 50s on Witcher 3 (with dips here and there) but on that benchmark the low point was.... 21.
21 ?
Twenty One!
So either tat tool is not indicative of gameplay (like Mordor) the game is very unoptimised or my 1 year old PC is ready for the bin now.
VRAM definitely isn't the only culprit for stuttering. 3440x1440 I see 6GB usage on my 980 Ti, but at 1080p I saw it hit 4.8GB max and the amount of stuttering was the same.
FRAPS.