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Batman: Arkham Origins PC Performance Thread
- Thread starter batman2million
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Try downsampling. Will make a big difference.
To everyone running SLI or a single card like GTX 780: downsample. The game looks so, so much better than running it at 1080p with 8x MSAA.
Regarding downsampling, as this is an Unreal Engine game, does it do that weird thing that increases detail of textures due to the higher resolution? But as you're downsampling the difference in texture detail is a lot more noticeable.
I took this on Dishonoured, the *only* thing changed was the resolution from 1920x1080 -> 3200x1800:
I took this on Dishonoured, the *only* thing changed was the resolution from 1920x1080 -> 3200x1800:
Regret Truth
Member
Any good guides on how to setup downsampling? I'd love to try it.
Specs.
770
3770k
8gig ram
The Geforce experience thing doesn't see most of my games.It sees Arkham City, but not Asylum or Origins even though they're all installed in the same directory.
Is this a known issue? I googled it but couldn't find a fix.
Did you manually add the install directory?
The Geforce experience thing doesn't see most of my games.
Is this a known issue? I googled it but couldn't find a fix.
nVidia Andy says it's a bug concerning this game:
"Checked with the team and am told that there was a glitch during publication. Should hopefully be fixed soon."
I don't think GE automatically supports all games installed. Each title has to be researched individually, as I understand it. Naturally, they have to start somewhere.
YuriLowell
Member
How is crossfire performance?
Not really. You won't get any sort of decent performance without an NVIDIA card with PhysX.
angular graphics
Banned
The Geforce experience thing doesn't see most of my games.
Is this a known issue? I googled it but couldn't find a fix.
Batman AA is not supported. http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/supported-games
It's really old/light by today's HW standards so I doubt they will go back to it to profile it.
Aren't PhysX enhancements executed on CPU if you don't have a Tesla GPU or better?
Horsemama1956
Member
The problem is nVidia severely caps the amount of CPU PhysicX uses. I think it's like 1 core. I think it's also compiled with x87 and which newer AMD processors kinda suck with.
For the most part, the PhysX stuff is junk so you're not missing much.
For the most part, the PhysX stuff is junk so you're not missing much.
Yes, and it's limited to a single thread as well if I'm not mistaken. Nvidia should allow a separate PhysX card to be used in AMD setups and allow PhysX to be multithreaded. This would alleviate so many problems and make them not look like totalitarian jerks.
Felix Lighter
Member
It is working as intended. PhysX code runs like dog shit on CPUs, which is where it runs when using a non Nvidia GPU. You should pretty much always consider PhysX features to be Nvidia exlusive.
Regarding downsampling, as this is an Unreal Engine game, does it do that weird thing that increases detail of textures due to the higher resolution? But as you're downsampling the difference in texture detail is a lot more noticeable.
I took this on Dishonoured, the *only* thing changed was the resolution from 1920x1080 -> 3200x1800:
That just looks like you need to adjust the negative LOD bias.
vasametropolis
Member
Anyone with a GTX 670 or near equivalent comment on Physx performance? Everything seemed fine until I got to an area with a few banners and fog during combat, where it slowed down noticeably (but not totally horrible).
It's a shame because I actually kinda like the physx in this game... DX11 performance is sick though.
It's a shame because I actually kinda like the physx in this game... DX11 performance is sick though.
Why not simply use the spare GPGPU power in the AMD cards...
I imagine because nVidia would much rather maintain the status quo. Technologies like Physx and HDAO+ are used to differentiate their products in the market.
Ugh, horrid marketing speak. I feel dirty.
doniewhalberg
Member
Yup, I put up some comments on it with a 770 which isn't far above your card at all.
Just read back up the threadFelix Lighter
Member
Nvidia is not going to port PhysX for AMD cards. It is a competitive advantage for them.
Win 8.1
Intel 3770 (no oc)
GTX 660TI OC Windforce
Most of the game run at 50-60 FPS even in fight, didn't get to a boss fight now.. well i did the tutorial boss but didn't have my FPS counter on.
Setting :
1080p
FXAA HIGH
Physx HIGH
All DX11 option to ON
Latest drivers (R331 game ready)
Intel 3770 (no oc)
GTX 660TI OC Windforce
Most of the game run at 50-60 FPS even in fight, didn't get to a boss fight now.. well i did the tutorial boss but didn't have my FPS counter on.
Setting :
1080p
FXAA HIGH
Physx HIGH
All DX11 option to ON
Latest drivers (R331 game ready)
I'm on a OC 760, seemed fine-ish
WarlockTheWise
Member
Hardly surprising that massively parrallel computations dont work well on a few cores.
Travis Touchdown
Member
Can you explain better?
I mean, I have negative LOD bias on "clamp" on nvidia panel, is there anything else I could do to avoid this on unreal engine games?
d00d3n
Member
SLI users:
I started the game (3xSLI 680GTX) and noticed constant judder while fraps show constant 60 fps. Judder is there at max settings and lowest settings. Installed 313.58 whql drivers and judder is the same.
Then I opened bmengine.ini and changed MaxSmoothedFrameRate from -1 (no limit) to 60 and then game is smooth. DaGSyncFeelOf course, bSmoothframerate must be 'TRUE'.
There are two MaxSmoothedFrameRate inside bmengine.ini, it's the last one.
Game is really awesome.
Ok, this fix worked for me. People with SLI should try it. Have been running around in open world without any issues.
vasametropolis
Member
Thanks I must have missed it (I'm on my phone). I'll check it out when I get a chance. Physx has never run great for me though so I'm not that disappointed if that's the way it is.Yup, I put up some comments on it with a 770 which isn't far above your card at all.
Edit: Yeah, I saw your post. I was thinking of the exact same area. It looked SO nice with the smoke/fog effects on, but the framerate kinda went in the tank. I'm wondering if I should turn it back on even though it doesn't run very well (tried switching PhysX to only run on the GPU as well). I think fighting with a lot of guys in the snow causes some slowdown as well. With PhysX off I have everything else on max apart from FXAA High for AA and it runs pretty damn amazing. I'm playing on my TV so FXAA is pretty adequate at the distance.
El Sabroso
Member
i7 3770k
GTX 660
8GB RAM
Win 8
Settings
Resolution: 1920x1080
Vsync: ON
AA: FXAA High
DoF: Normal
Everything else maxed
Game is 50+ fps for me even in fights but there was a stage with fights and a lot of smoke which uses Physx and down there was down to 30 fps
GTX 660
8GB RAM
Win 8
Settings
Resolution: 1920x1080
Vsync: ON
AA: FXAA High
DoF: Normal
Everything else maxed
Game is 50+ fps for me even in fights but there was a stage with fights and a lot of smoke which uses Physx and down there was down to 30 fps
MSAA performance hit is huge in this game. I detailed it on the other page but Yeah its not worth it. Use downsampling + SMAA. It will run better and the image is far crisper. Wish my screenshots weren't busted (they show up as completely black) or I'd post up some 4k shots without AA. Looks so damn good. A single GTX 780 or oc'd 670/680/770 should handle 3200x1800 in this game no problem.
For those that don't care about DX11, downsampling + SGSSAA will also give you incredible image quality.
I'm playing with basically everything turned off and resolution reduced, and gameplay is running smooth enough between 25-35 fps, but cutscenes run like dog shit. 10-15 fps, audio out of sync, and entirely unwatchable. Anyone else having this issue? My laptop ran Arkham City just fine. Why should the cutscenes run the worst?
bee
Member
the game is 3d vision ready! no mention of it anywhere but it is, looks just as good if not better than the others in 3D, running 1080p, 4xmsaa, all settings maxed except DOF to normal (get occasional hitching on dx11) and of course 3D, it runs 45-60fps so far on 3570k, 8gb, 670sli.
really enjoying the small amount I've played so far
really enjoying the small amount I've played so far
NoSkillz187
Member
Any sweet FX settings up for download for AO yet?
Not shipped in the final build. Should come in an update.
krameriffic
Member
Anyone know how to bind things to Shift+another key? It was done directly through the configuration GUI in City, but now when you try to press Shift, it just binds the skill immediately to the Shift key without allowing you to use it as a modifier on another button.
I always used 1-6 for the combat gadgets and Shift+1-6 for the other ones for convenience, but I can't bind that anymore. I also cant find the correct config file to try to edit for this either. I found the one for mouse sensitivity, but key bindings seem to exist in many different forms in many different config files. Otherwise I would just copy them over from my AC configs.
I always used 1-6 for the combat gadgets and Shift+1-6 for the other ones for convenience, but I can't bind that anymore. I also cant find the correct config file to try to edit for this either. I found the one for mouse sensitivity, but key bindings seem to exist in many different forms in many different config files. Otherwise I would just copy them over from my AC configs.
j0hnny_385
Member
Finished the intro couple of mins ago. Great start. Loving the game so far.
The game is running OK. Not a rock solid 60fps though (50-60 , varying on "screen complexity", measured with FRAPS).
Specs:
Core i5 4670K (non OC @ default 3.4GHz)
8GB RAM
XFX Radeon 7850 2GB Black Edition (factory OC @ 975/1250MHz)
1920x1200
Win 7 x64 SP1
latest Catalyst beta drivers
config:
The game is running OK. Not a rock solid 60fps though (50-60 , varying on "screen complexity", measured with FRAPS).
Specs:
Core i5 4670K (non OC @ default 3.4GHz)
8GB RAM
XFX Radeon 7850 2GB Black Edition (factory OC @ 975/1250MHz)
1920x1200
Win 7 x64 SP1
latest Catalyst beta drivers
config:
gtx 770 4gb
i5-3750 3.4GHz
So, to get constant 60 fps on my rig, I:
-shouldn't use that fancy PhysX stuff
-should have any kind of AA disabled
Is that right? I still have 3 more hours until I can play it, so now I'm thinking about best possible settings to get 60fps at 1080p.
When downsampling, what kind of AA should I use (if any)?
i5-3750 3.4GHz
So, to get constant 60 fps on my rig, I:
-shouldn't use that fancy PhysX stuff
-should have any kind of AA disabled
Is that right? I still have 3 more hours until I can play it, so now I'm thinking about best possible settings to get 60fps at 1080p.
When downsampling, what kind of AA should I use (if any)?
d00d3n
Member
I hate to make other people notice this if they were happily unaware, but is anyone else getting irregular but frequent screen flashes where the graphics are slightly distorted like this? (first flash at 11 second mark). The flashes are mainly noticeable in menus, but seem to be there all the time (although much less of an issue in 3d gameplay).
Use no AA, you won't really need it.
And you should be able to run PhysX @ Normal or High on your 770 with no problems.