It's probably like the other NPCs, you need to clear a dungeon for it to restock.
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Battle Chasers Nightwar |OT| Party Like its 1998!
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It's probably like the other NPCs, you need to clear a dungeon for it to restock.
The thing about Garrison is that he basically requires Gully to work in a party. If you're stacking damage on him, he needs her taunt. And if you're not, you're not Garrisoning as hard as Garrison can Garrison - although, as people are seeing, damage optimization becomes just a teensy bit irrelevant lategame, especially once you start getting ultimate weapons.
Still, Red Monika's stealth - once you get the perk that lets her start combat stealthed - means she's much less tethered to the game's sole true tank, and does more than enough damage to get you by without Warblades or Burst 2 -> Berserk -> Berserk. Her high evade is actually great too, particularly against enemies that do those really damaging multi-hit attacks. Plus, she has one of the easiest ultimate weapons to get, so if nothing else, she's useful for powering you through the Arena for Garrison's game-breaker.
Still, Red Monika's stealth - once you get the perk that lets her start combat stealthed - means she's much less tethered to the game's sole true tank, and does more than enough damage to get you by without Warblades or Burst 2 -> Berserk -> Berserk. Her high evade is actually great too, particularly against enemies that do those really damaging multi-hit attacks. Plus, she has one of the easiest ultimate weapons to get, so if nothing else, she's useful for powering you through the Arena for Garrison's game-breaker.
Begaria
Member
The game is pretty good, just heading into Dungeon 4, but there's a few nit picks and just flat out mechanic flub ups that I can't wrap my head around.
The nitpick: I would've liked to see what party member enemies are targeting. This is such a great mechanic introduced by very few RPGs, and makes battles even more strategic. In such a RPG like Battle Chasers where nearly every battle is strategic, especially bosses/hunts, it'd make the already excellent battle system that much better.
Gotta say, inactive party members not gaining XP really, really sucks. There's very little reason to switch out to lower level party members, and the grind (which is getting fixed) is way too tedious.
The nitpick: I would've liked to see what party member enemies are targeting. This is such a great mechanic introduced by very few RPGs, and makes battles even more strategic. In such a RPG like Battle Chasers where nearly every battle is strategic, especially bosses/hunts, it'd make the already excellent battle system that much better.
Gotta say, inactive party members not gaining XP really, really sucks. There's very little reason to switch out to lower level party members, and the grind (which is getting fixed) is way too tedious.
Spiritreaver
Member
Hmm, I read that you have to trigger it appearing by giving him ore, but nothing I do seems to trigger him asking for ore.
Maybe I missed something in the Dig, I'll run through it again later.
Can't stop thinking about the game.
After having some fun with the final companion you get (if you have access to him - give him a try - he's a beast!), I was theorycrafting a bit about stacking sunder damage:
There's a Necklace you can buy for ~14 Shadow Coins that gives you a 10% chance to apply 50% sunder on hit. Put this on Bretto and then go nuts with Wildshot (8 hits, almost guaranteeing a procc), after applying your basic 20% sunder (with perk that increases basic sunder from 10->20%). You should hit 70% sunder pretty easily.
Should go well together with a high dps such as Garrison/Monika or that spell from the final companion you unlock that does crazy damage but also does a small amount of damage to himself. (Said final member can also increase his own damage by 20% (?) or the party's DPS by 30%. Garrison could on top of that boost the party's crit chance by 60% through burst 2 after applying zeh sunder)
For even more fun, add in Ambush, Exploit Weakness and Execute. (Haven't tried the last three options yet, but they could lead to some nice damage)
I'm such a nerd. Have fun!
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Agreed. Furthermore, Garrison takes a while to get going/set up. His sting isn't that great IMO, and most of his powerful attacks are "Slow", while Monika and the final dude starting with an "A" have lots of "Fast" options when it comes to mana-abilties. Garrison is no doubt a great boss killer though. (Seeing Berserk crit and getting all those hits in is also fun) But yeah, he depends on Gully a lot, while you can put final dude (the super-versatile guy that is like a kinderegg (DR/DPS/heals) - can't remember his name atm
) and Monika in almost any line-up.
Yeah, I feel you on those negatives. I hope I'm not annoying people by repeatedly stating that I use Cheat Engine to speed the game up for combat/tedious tasks like going back to switch out party members and gear, and also recently using it to gain enough instant XP to catch up members not in the current lineup without grinding. No tar and feathers please! Unless it's like a mildly erotic consensual group thing. If that's the case, give me the specifics and we'll go from there.
After having some fun with the final companion you get (if you have access to him - give him a try - he's a beast!), I was theorycrafting a bit about stacking sunder damage:
There's a Necklace you can buy for ~14 Shadow Coins that gives you a 10% chance to apply 50% sunder on hit. Put this on Bretto and then go nuts with Wildshot (8 hits, almost guaranteeing a procc), after applying your basic 20% sunder (with perk that increases basic sunder from 10->20%). You should hit 70% sunder pretty easily.
Should go well together with a high dps such as Garrison/Monika or that spell from the final companion you unlock that does crazy damage but also does a small amount of damage to himself. (Said final member can also increase his own damage by 20% (?) or the party's DPS by 30%. Garrison could on top of that boost the party's crit chance by 60% through burst 2 after applying zeh sunder)
For even more fun, add in Ambush, Exploit Weakness and Execute. (Haven't tried the last three options yet, but they could lead to some nice damage)
I'm such a nerd. Have fun!
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Agreed. Furthermore, Garrison takes a while to get going/set up. His sting isn't that great IMO, and most of his powerful attacks are "Slow", while Monika and the final dude starting with an "A" have lots of "Fast" options when it comes to mana-abilties. Garrison is no doubt a great boss killer though. (Seeing Berserk crit and getting all those hits in is also fun) But yeah, he depends on Gully a lot, while you can put final dude (the super-versatile guy that is like a kinderegg (DR/DPS/heals) - can't remember his name atm
) and Monika in almost any line-up.Yeah, I feel you on those negatives. I hope I'm not annoying people by repeatedly stating that I use Cheat Engine to speed the game up for combat/tedious tasks like going back to switch out party members and gear, and also recently using it to gain enough instant XP to catch up members not in the current lineup without grinding. No tar and feathers please! Unless it's like a mildly erotic consensual group thing. If that's the case, give me the specifics and we'll go from there.
Enjoying the game so far! Looks and plays great!
Have had one crash on PS4/Pro so far :/. - Do these crashes normally corrupt save files, as mine wasn't? (this time) - Maybe instead of Auto saving, manually saving and going back to the menu would be a bit safer somehow?
To anyone else who Kickstarted this and got it on PS4, have you had any troubles with the download codes for all of the free stuff like Chaos Eater or Explorers Pack? On the Extras screen after inputting the codes and submitting, the on screen keyboard just goes away,the screen gets a little dark, and no confirmation is given if it was accepted (and the items aren't in the inventory in-game after checking)
Have had one crash on PS4/Pro so far :/. - Do these crashes normally corrupt save files, as mine wasn't? (this time) - Maybe instead of Auto saving, manually saving and going back to the menu would be a bit safer somehow?
To anyone else who Kickstarted this and got it on PS4, have you had any troubles with the download codes for all of the free stuff like Chaos Eater or Explorers Pack? On the Extras screen after inputting the codes and submitting, the on screen keyboard just goes away,the screen gets a little dark, and no confirmation is given if it was accepted (and the items aren't in the inventory in-game after checking)
If it crashes while saving it will corrupt it, I have over 50 hours with only one corruption. It's best to back up saves cuz crashes will happen a lot.
For the back extra codes I had to close the game out relaunch and put them in. I heard some people to four tries to get it to work but was just one try for me
Oh wow - right on, thanks for the reply! Will back up everything before I start another round.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Love the game, but it's been crashing more and more. Just crashed while a character died just as the XP screen rolled up.
Sigh.
Sigh.
The best rod and lure available will quickly pay dividends. Afterwards, if there's any equipment that you particularly want that lines up with your level, that's fine (and the loot boxes can be okay), but the discounted/character-specific perk books are probably the best investment.
Haha, did anyone get the encounter in the Iron Outpost with the Sarcophagus/coffin?
I knew it was obviously and ultimately a bad idea to let whatever was in there out and totally expected a mini boss fight against whatever was in there and was surprised that I didn't get it. Laughed at some of the commentary as I bargained with it though. I expect I'll be fighting some pop-up vampire mini boss later on for my actions here?
I never got it, but let me tell you, letting it out is definitely a good idea for late game.
Haha, oh, really? Well, go ahead and spoil me if you know something
And are the only places to craft weapons/armor and enchantments in the dungeons? There's no way to be able to craft in Harms Way, not even by upgrading the shops or anything?
Haha, oh, really? Well, go ahead and spoil me if you know something
And are the only places to craft weapons/armor and enchantments in the dungeons? There's no way to be able to craft in Harms Way, not even by upgrading the shops or anything?
Gully's ultimate weapon requires that you release the Lich from that tomb and fight him again in another place for a drop. That tomb popping is like super, unreasonably rare, although they're apparently addressing it in the patch. So, if you're lucky enough to see it, letting it out is definitely the way to go.
When you upgrade shops in town, they gain crafting status. They're lowering the cost of upgrading in next patch, too.
Just did the third hunt. Gained 3 levels in one battle!
You can definitely farm some XP there since the (encounter spoiler):
edit: This works at lvl 17. At lvl 21 and above you'll gain next to nothing. Don't do it above lvl 17 guys! I already disappointing one of my Gaf-heroes. In fact, maybe look at my posts and then go "I should do the opposite"
(just wanted to put out a warning)
You can definitely farm some XP there since the (encounter spoiler):
Boss keeps summoning adds. I went from lvl 17 to 20 in one fight. https://imgur.com/Rm26Ihv ~6.4k XP
edit: This works at lvl 17. At lvl 21 and above you'll gain next to nothing. Don't do it above lvl 17 guys! I already disappointing one of my Gaf-heroes. In fact, maybe look at my posts and then go "I should do the opposite"
(just wanted to put out a warning)
Finished the first 3 dungeons(and their Legendary versions) and the current party is Monika, Garrison and Knolan. I'm planning to replace Garrison with Alumon once I get him. Monika is proving to be a very good tank for me, I just hope Alumon can be as good of a damage dealer as Garrison is, because that's what my party needs atm. Also, can anyone tell me when the fishmonger appears ?
Lanrutcon
Member
You already have access to the fishmonger if you have Monika. He's got a shack to the north west, near the town of thieves.
was gonna say... damn people, explore the maps >_<
I assume hoard since the gold coin one says cumulative but the shadow coin does not. I am luck and have avoid any crashes so far at 12hrs in. However I only play about an hour at a time. I really think the PS4 problems have to do with memory because as soon as I hit the hour and a half mark I start to see some stuttering and other problems.
adversarial
Member
I'm trying to keep all the characters I've got so far leveled (all except last dude apparently) - this doesn't seem to be an effective strategy as it's taking me forever to do anything. I feel bad "leaving" any of them behind though. Are any of the characters just not worth keeping in your party? Do you immediately do a legendary clear after clearing a dungeon? I'm seeing a lot of people saying they're doing legendary on their first attempt, but I just got to the
and was getting destroyed on heroic. (Lvl 12, 13, 13)
mine right after junktown
its not because
there is never a point in the game apparently where you need to use any other member, like there is no "oh shit they kidnapped Garrison so now youre forced to use Monika" moment.
You can get under-level characters up to speed by doing fast legendary runs, or bringing 'em on to hunts such as the one I discussed/screenshot in my last post (Third hunt, got 6.4k XP in one fight, didn't 'mean to' - I was just taking care of the adds when they spawned and surprised when I saw the battle results screen. You can probably get much further in terms of farming if you take 10 mins to focus down the re-spawning adds and get 12k+ XP) Don't worry about 'leaving your companions behind' though if you're satisfied with your setup!
I agree that Knolan isn't that exciting to begin with. Final companion you get is really frickin' good though and worth swapping in for Bretto or Garri (final member is basically good at everything, except for tanking, which is Gully's special forté). He joined my party at lvl 17 when the rest was 15-16. Didn't slow me down and was a huge help with cleanse/heals, auto-magic DR and DPS. :3
I agree that Knolan isn't that exciting to begin with. Final companion you get is really frickin' good though and worth swapping in for Bretto or Garri (final member is basically good at everything, except for tanking, which is Gully's special forté). He joined my party at lvl 17 when the rest was 15-16. Didn't slow me down and was a huge help with cleanse/heals, auto-magic DR and DPS. :3
Lanrutcon
Member
Like, everyone is good end game barring Gully (since she's a tank). Even Bretto, the best healer in the game, becomes a god of war. Garrison, Monika, etc are just silly.
Finally!
I assume the hunt to lvl with is the
slime king down in the well
SirFuzzyDunlop
Member
Excellent news.
He doesn't spawn for me - again, on PS4, that version is cursed.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Where do I find hunt #3 boss?
"hidden down a well", I did throw money and food into a well but now it craves "Scummy Grog"... is that the hunt? In that case, where do I find some Scummy Grog?
"hidden down a well", I did throw money and food into a well but now it craves "Scummy Grog"... is that the hunt? In that case, where do I find some Scummy Grog?
Point Break Cantina, that pirate's hideout/bar place in the Siege Coast. After that, you'll need the
ladder
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Awesome! Got it, plus the ladder
Also, the top hat dude in Point Break Cantina... what happens if I buy the tophat from the main town and speak to him?
Awesome! Got it, plus the ladder
Also, the top hat dude in Point Break Cantina... what happens if I buy the tophat from the main town and speak to him?
You trade hats. The hat he gives you is for a special quest at the tail end of the game, Knolan-related.
No problem - digging around for answers like these in the first few days of release was a total pain in the ass that I'm more than happy to save other people from - but no, I don't think you can repeat hunts.
you need 2 things from the cantina btw, I posted it a few pages back, just to avoid going there, buying one, then handing it in only to have to go back there again.
edit: wait, Aluman is a healer? Just got him, and looking at his skills, he's more of a healer than Knolan is (as in, besides Bretto). Mistakes were made by removing Gully from the party it seems lol. He even has a healing perk tree.
So there's only one pure Tank in Gully then, weird.
edit: wait, Aluman is a healer? Just got him, and looking at his skills, he's more of a healer than Knolan is (as in, besides Bretto). Mistakes were made by removing Gully from the party it seems lol. He even has a healing perk tree.
So there's only one pure Tank in Gully then, weird.
Heretic Kazuma
Member
I quite enjoyed playing with Knolan. I went with full crit gear making him an AOE monster, particularly when you stack his perks to benefit from them. My favorite midgame party was 'Bretto, Garrison, and Knolan. Sure, it's a lot less safer than the Gully+ 'Bretto duo, but combat was faster and more entertaining to me by stacking DoTs all over the place.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
So... I just spent an hour or so on the slime king hunt, killing the ads because of someone in here saying that you could farm them and gain tons of XP...
beat the boss, after tons of slime killing and didn't even get a single XP.
So thanks for that, I truly appreciate it.
beat the boss, after tons of slime killing and didn't even get a single XP.
So thanks for that, I truly appreciate it.
if you didnt get any xp its because you were too high level, just like the mobs on the map that void you fter a certain point.
Also, good lord at the boss in
the red grave Beat him first try but both Gully and Garrison were down, had to finish him off with Aluman
Beat him first try but both Gully and Garrison were down, had to finish him off with AlumanI got 6k xp @ lvl 17 just from the adds and a 5 min fight (lot's of "one hit kills" and such though, got me to lvl 20)
I'm sorry, if you check my screenshot below you'll see I gained tons of XP from that.
Aye, that one. I never got 3 levels from one battle before this. I focused down the adds as soon as they spawned. Maybe I got a bug or just lucky with all the XP bonuses from one-hit-wonder/overkill? I'm not sure, sorry Yoshi
edit: Enemies defeated, 1.4k. Check where the rest of the XP is coming from; https://imgur.com/Rm26Ihv
I think Aluman mkes 3 for 3 in "yeah ill just stick with the original 3 guys thanks" new members >_>
ll do
with him instead of Bretto see how he feels but initial impressions arent that hot.
ll do
Deadwatch
He's the greatest "yeah maybe I'll swap someone out" out of all the other party members though. Try his mega-damage attack that hits himself for 5-10% dmg. He may not sunder, but he can do anything, - DPS, healing while applying damage reduction to himself, etc. I've benched Bretto for Alu.
Ill update op with various tips and info im accruing...