Deadly Monk said:Daniel is Starbucks father, guarantee it.
Tenacious-V said:Was that the "I'm a PC" guy from the Apple commercials as the doctor finding the bullet? :lol
RoboPlato said:I thought the episode was really good but for some reason, despite all of the the information we got, it felt like a filler episode. It just didn't have the same flair as most of BSG's big reveals.
I think I saw him in the preview.BorkBork said:I think it was just due to the fact it was a huge amount of information dumped on the viewer in a very short amount of time. There's not enough time for stuff to hit impact-wise before it gets buried by new revelations.
PC guy was completely extraneous, there wasn't really any reason that Cottle couldn't do the surgery himself. Maybe Hodgman just wanted a cameo on BSG.
No Baltar at all. Hopefully he shows up next episode... Did anyone see a preview for next week?
BorkBork said:I think it was just due to the fact it was a huge amount of information dumped on the viewer in a very short amount of time. There's not enough time for stuff to hit impact-wise before it gets buried by new revelations.
PC guy was completely extraneous, there wasn't really any reason that Cottle couldn't do the surgery himself. Maybe Hodgman just wanted a cameo on BSG.
No Baltar at all. Hopefully he shows up next episode... Did anyone see a preview for next week?
BorkBork said:I think it was just due to the fact it was a huge amount of information dumped on the viewer in a very short amount of time. There's not enough time for stuff to hit impact-wise before it gets buried by new revelations.
PC guy was completely extraneous, there wasn't really any reason that Cottle couldn't do the surgery himself. Maybe Hodgman just wanted a cameo on BSG.
No Baltar at all. Hopefully he shows up next episode... Did anyone see a preview for next week?
Incest!Saerk said:Could Daniel be both Starbucks father and Baltar?
Meh. It's relatively easy in a sense to do explosive epsiodes like the prior two. They come almost pre-written. The final 6 or so epsiodes are much more difficult as you have a shit load of backstory to explain.Kak.efes said:I have my doubts the show will live up to the highs of the Oath, and Blood on the Scales with the remaining five episodes. Tonight's certainly didn't.
Stoney Mason said:Meh. It's relatively easy in a sense to do explosive epsiodes like the prior two. They come almost pre-written. The final 6 or so epsiodes are much more difficult as you have a shit load of backstory to explain.
AndersTheSwede said:But see that's my problem with this. It's not like it's a sudden surprise that only "oh my god there are 6 episodes left!" or "omg we only do 45 minute episodes!" This is the kind of stuff that you need to plan for, that has been in the works for a while. Stuff you can't claim just suddenly smacked you in the head. This is what you get paid to plan to for. I know Moore likes to fly by the seat of his pants with one hand grasping his favorite liquor and that has resulted in the greatest sci-fi since Babylon 5; but come the fuck on. This is pure shit pacing. Lurching from such a significant event as the mutiny to practically forgetting about it the next episode outside of courtesy moments, to revealing the resurrection techniques of the final five (er... 8) to revealing Hellen's place as a creater to... holy fuck.
If the revelations can't effectively fit within the time remaining (which by hell they didn't tonight), then they need to be modified and changed so they do work. Everything doesn't need to be answered. Everything shouldn't be answered. In real life everything doesn't get answered and BSG has staked itself upon pseudo-realism. That's the job of a writer. Making it work. Making it be believable.
Stoney Mason said:That being said with the audience need high to get closure and wrap up so many loose ends I didn't think this epsiode did a bad job doing it. I guess it's about expectations. I expected some big core dumps. And I expect even more to reach a conclusion that will be satisfying for the majority of the audience.
AndersTheSwede said:Fuck the audiences need for closure. Moore has frequently discussed his admiration for the ending of the Sopranos. How complex events never tie up neatly according to the sensibilities of the audience. I don't want things to wrap up neatly, I want the series to end with the best fucking sci-fi television ever put to (digital) film. The only closure I want is what happens to the characters, not why it happened to them.
Now of course this argument could be turned back upon me. "Fuck the audience sensibilities? Then fuck all your criticisms!" But I think basic pacing is a prerequisite for creating "the best fucking sci-fi television ever put to (digital) film".
The kind of audience who wants this kind of neat ending is likely the kind of audience who would watch this episode and have no fucking idea what's going on (I struggle and I watch the show like an obsessive geek). It serves no viewer demographic's preferences.
Stoney Mason said:On a side note, I think Sopranos while an interesting ending is a bit too cute and artsy for my taste and I would be dissappointed if Moore took that route.
davepoobond said:who says storytelling must have decent pacing for the story to be told?
Stoney Mason said:On a side note, I think Sopranos while an interesting ending is a bit too cute and artsy for my taste and I would be dissappointed if Moore took that route.
Ezenzer said:I really, really love the new Ellen. She has such a commanding presence but at the same time comes off much more compassionate and understanding than either D'Anna or Natalie, for instance.
It's such a shame there's only a few episodes left to enjoy her. *sigh
maharg said:My prediction is that Starbuck is the result of corruption of Daniel's DNA. It fits her artistic side she had pre-military (remember her apartment). It's also quaintly perfect, given that she is a female version of a male character from the original show.
I'd be disappointed if it was Baltar. He doesn't make nearly as much sense.
Smiling Bandit said:I have really shitty opinions
Smiling Bandit said:The show has become evermore unbearable. The way they freed the Admiral had me rolling on the floor! :lol And everytime the prisoners would just turn around and simply take away the weapons of their guards! :lol You got to be shitting me! The blonde perma-pms-ing chick taking people out left and right. And the mexican guy escaping from prison? Holy shit! Just unscrew a wallplate and there you go! And of course the bitch of a school board president always finds a way to communicate with everybody.
Terrible show.
Smiling Bandit said:I forgot: Really bad and above all extremly cowardly writing.
If you already know that they don't have the courage to kill one of the main characters how gullible do you have to be to get any kind of excitement out of these cheap scenarios?
Smiling Bandit said:The show has become evermore unbearable. The way they freed the Admiral had me rolling on the floor! :lol And everytime the prisoners would just turn around and simply take away the weapons of their guards! :lol You got to be shitting me! The blonde perma-pms-ing chick taking people out left and right. And the mexican guy escaping from prison? Holy shit! Just unscrew a wallplate and there you go! And of course the bitch of a school board president always finds a way to communicate with everybody.
Terrible show.
Is he famous? I've not seen him before.AndersTheSwede said:And seriously, PC/Daily Show dude? Like that doesn't jolt everyone out of the show and back to reality.
maharg said:My prediction is that Starbuck is the result of corruption of Daniel's DNA. It fits her artistic side she had pre-military (remember her apartment). It's also quaintly perfect, given that she is a female version of a male character from the original show.
I'd be disappointed if it was Baltar. He doesn't make nearly as much sense.
Ghost said:Does seem likely that she's related to Daniel somehow, doesn't really help explain what happened on Earth though.
BenjaminBirdie said:I thought the "corrupted genetic material" line was a dead giveaway. Starbuck is Daniel. Let's call her "Denise".
;D
BenjaminBirdie said:I thought the "corrupted genetic material" line was a dead giveaway. Starbuck is Daniel. Let's call her "Denise".
;D