It's hard to see Bayonetta even at 720p on a sub-HD TV (I know because I'm playing Bayo 2 like that right now), that's something that the franchise has carried with since the beginning... I know the lower resolution worsen that but that's only on handheld, on TV the resolution is larger than even previous games... I'd wish they stayed on 720p tho...
We've gone back to the mid 90s it seems.less than 480p?
Youll have people in this forum playing it on their 30 year old CRT tvs and screaming at you how its totally fine and only gameplay matters
Good bless emulation, saving us from the cheap Nintendo Hardware.
Good bless emulation, saving us from the cheap Nintendo Hardware.
Yeah, the problem isnt just the resolution, it's that the overall level of detail is simply not up to par with other Switch games let alone PS4 or even PS3 era games. I have played some stunning Switch games like Mario Rabbids, Zelda Links Awakening, and even Metroid Dread. But the scale of this game is simply too large for switch to handle with grace and the result is a fugly looking game devoid of any detail in ANY level. Now, I LOVE the fact that they didnt let the switch come between them and their ambitious vision for this game, but my goodness there has to be some kind of quality control over at Nintendo because this is looking worse than PS3 games.
Why are you posting bullshots (or perhaps pics from the Uncharted Collection with remastered graphics on PS4) to prove a switch game looks worse than a ps3 game from one of the most technically accomplished studios in the industry? Quit it with the hyperbole, barring some garish low res effects & dither, the graphic quality is acceptable for switch.Yeah, the problem isnt just the resolution, it's that the overall level of detail is simply not up to par with other Switch games let alone PS4 or even PS3 era games. I have played some stunning Switch games like Mario Rabbids, Zelda Links Awakening, and even Metroid Dread. But the scale of this game is simply too large for switch to handle with grace and the result is a fugly looking game devoid of any detail in ANY level. Now, I LOVE the fact that they didnt let the switch come between them and their ambitious vision for this game, but my goodness there has to be some kind of quality control over at Nintendo because this is looking worse than PS3 games.
I looked at Scalebound and my god it looks next gen. As in PS5 XSX era next gen. Way too ambitious for the xbox one's 1.3 tflops spec. Metal Gear Rising looks better than Bayonetta despite having the same massive scale as Bayonetta toppling skyscrapers and destroying entire cities. Whats clear is that the Switch is holding back this game because PG are still incredibly talented and its frustrating that only Nintendo gets how talented this studio is because MS and Sony shouldve been the one to greenlight this game, or Metal Gear Rising 2, or Scalebound. This is a phenomenal studio that is doing things in Bayonetta 3 we likely wont see God of War do on the PS5. Scale is amazing but its too much for the Switch.
none of those are bullshots and the bayonetta pics posted were literally running at native 4k on PC. Even if these pics are from the uncharted remaster which i dont know they are. i simply google uncharted 2 and uncharted 3, but even if they are, they are maxed out at 1080p. They are the same textures. Same level of detail in the environments. These are remasters, not remakes that got a complete graphics overhaul.
Yes, those are from the Uncharted Collection, which had highly enhanced graphics and level of detail across the board, including much higher draw distance, higher resolution, better antialiasing, better texture filtering, higher res textures and effects, and better lighting & shadows. The PS3 version of the games looked NOWHERE NEAR as good and had a lot of aliasing. You thought no one was gonna notice?
Nonsense. Everyone who has played these games on the PS3 knows how good they looked and i am talking about the level of detail. Higher res, better AA, better AF is not going to magically add MORE DETAIL to the game which is precisely why I made the Bayonetta 3 4k PC COMPARISON. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Why are you ignoring the other enhancements like textures, draw distance, lighting etc? What an absolute clown.
Use your eyes. The videos of the PS3 version I posted have the same AMOUNT OF DETAIL in the levels compared the screenshots. This is not about resolution you numbnut.
But this comparation is stupid, you can't compare platinum games with naughty dog in technnical stuff, why not compare bayonetta1 ps3 vs switch version?Use your eyes. The videos of the PS3 version I posted have the same AMOUNT OF DETAIL in the levels compared the screenshots. This is not about resolution you numbnut.
Now you are literally using cutscene comparisons which were prerendered on the PS3 lmao. I posted GAMEPLAY screenshots which you dismissed because you thought they were bullshots and now you are literally posting ACTUAL bullshots.
IN GAME The level of detail is virtually the same. Use your brain.
Exact same textures. Exact same number of foliage. Same models. Same number of trees. Same lighting. And regardless, none of this matters. You were given the PS3 VIDEO footage of ALL three screenshots I posted to compare against Bayonetta in native 4k and you are ignoring that and posting DIFFERENT comparisons from the PS4 versions? Why? Why move the goalpost? LOOK at the PS3 footage.
Because I already conceded that point in my original post when I stated this:
It's obvious to anyone actually playing this game that the game looks so bad because of Bayonetta 3's massive scale and level design simply requiring them to pair back detail in other places. The point is that the game is too big for the switch.
Doesnt look as good as Uncharted, but looks way better than Bayonetta 3.
, instead on betting on the visuals to sell this game, Platinum bet everything on the Demon Slave mechanics.Just admit you were trying to dishonestly pass off a PS4 remaster as a PS3 game. The game doesn't look "identical bar resolution". Nevermind that the Uncharted games ran at a lower framerate on ps3 than Bayonetta 3. The point was never that the games didn't look good or even better than Bayo 3. But that those images don't accurately represent how it looked on ps3.
Nice bullshots.Yeah, the problem isnt just the resolution, it's that the overall level of detail is simply not up to par with other Switch games let alone PS4 or even PS3 era games. I have played some stunning Switch games like Mario Rabbids, Zelda Links Awakening, and even Metroid Dread. But the scale of this game is simply too large for switch to handle with grace and the result is a fugly looking game devoid of any detail in ANY level. Now, I LOVE the fact that they didnt let the switch come between them and their ambitious vision for this game, but my goodness there has to be some kind of quality control over at Nintendo because this is looking worse than PS3 games.
I looked at Scalebound and my god it looks next gen. As in PS5 XSX era next gen. Way too ambitious for the xbox one's 1.3 tflops spec. Metal Gear Rising looks better than Bayonetta despite having the same massive scale as Bayonetta toppling skyscrapers and destroying entire cities. Whats clear is that the Switch is holding back this game because PG are still incredibly talented and its frustrating that only Nintendo gets how talented this studio is because MS and Sony shouldve been the one to greenlight this game, or Metal Gear Rising 2, or Scalebound. This is a phenomenal studio that is doing things in Bayonetta 3 we likely wont see God of War do on the PS5. Scale is amazing but its too much for the Switch.
i believe this stamement is off for a couple reasons, first let me say Bayonetta 3 has performance/IQ issues, specially on Docked wich i believe will be improved on a future version at least. And im not a Digital Foundry expert but this is what i think is happening:
When people say stuff like "Bayonetta 3 looks like a PS2/GameCube/Xbox game!" they are implying it is some kind of low effort production, that something went very 'wrong' with this project, wich is simply not the case, Bayonetta 3 is not some low budget release, it has very detailed animation work(the likes an Xbox or even 360 would only dream of running), expanded features, an amazing soundtrack and content, yes detailed models as well, its simply tailored to portable hardware.
Then there are heavy gameplay and visuals changes in Bayo 3 compared to the previous games, the environments are 3x as big as the previous Bayonetta, to fit the Demon Slave mechanic and expand exploration,it requires to stress the hardware, they COULD had done something else with the tech considering their limitations, like make the game run at 30fps like many Switch games, or drop the Demon Slave entirely and release a slightly prettier Bayonetta 2, but it wouldn't have been such an ambitious Bayonetta game,and plenty of gamers would complain the same because they are still dealing with handheld Switch graphics
Lets see if it pays off, people are gonna see Bayonetta's demons breaking havoc and may find it fun
Finally, i find it a little ironic because graphics and prestige alone couldn't sell Bayonetta, when it released 12 years ago with comparable visuals to other releases,most gamers didn't bought it in favor of other big games.
If Bayonetta 3 sells today, its simply because its a good videogame,that people want to play on their little game tablet. nothing more, and nothing less.
Well... yeah... It's gonna look bad on a 4K TV since the Switch isn't meant to be played on a 4K TV set, maybe?... I mean, the TV people choose to see their content has nothing to do with Nintendo or the Switch beyond the fact Nintendo optimized Switch for 1080p screens. When Switch was designed 4K wasn't even on the radar for most people (and even today it isn't).
i already tried to explain why the game looks the way it does, this same studio, released Astral Chain a few years ago, one of the Switch most prominent tech showcases but one that runs at 30fps with some drops, below the target of Bayonetta 3, without the giant demon battles and with way smaller environments.
because Bayonetta 3 actually has higher production values than the first two games,in terms of animation quality, content, gameplay mechanics, features,even the soundtrack (that amazing track at the credits 
) Bayonetta 3 surpasses the previous games in the series, and all (well, almost all) of the cutscenes are fully animated this time, and they look Godly, this project wasn't half assed.
I'm sorry, but I'm calling foul on all these claims of the Switch being to blame. Nope. This is Platinum's mess. They have made quite a few titles by now. They know exactly what the Switch is capable of. They aren't new to this. I refuse to believe that they couldn't make a game that performs and looks as good as their own Bayonetta title that preceded this one because of the aging Switch hardware. They did it before, they should be able to do it again. They just failed at doing so. Sub-480p is not a problem with the Switch. It's a problem with a studio not properly optimizing their title and disregarding the limitations of the hardware they are releasing for.
eh, game looks alright, it performs more than acceptable too wich was the most important stuff.
