CadetMahoney
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can't wait to see the figure for this when it undoubtedly comes out in Japan.
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Bayonetta Demo Impressions Thread of the Evolution of Action Games
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a Master Ninja
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BeautifulMemory said:
I don't understand what you're talking about here. Canceling is a huge part of all action games. Some of the uses of cancels are probably unintentional, but the cancels themselves (usually) aren't. The type of cancels is what's important. And as far as the type of canceling in Bayonetta, it's closer to God of War and God Hand than it is to any of the DMC game.MechaX said:
MirageDwarf
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BeautifulMemory said:
That looks awesome. Actually crazy. Wish I can do combos like that in any game at least once before I die.
jabipun said:
I didn't mean the versions, meant the game. It's pretty cool, but I'm not blown away by what was seen in the demo. That's all. It's fun, that's cool. She does neat things, warps around, so forth, etc. Cool.
Perhaps after spending time with the full game, it'll be OMGWTF.
Bayonetta herself is pretty tacky though. =/
Fimbulvetr
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a Master Ninja said:
Seriously.
I knew breatoal was an expert, but I did not expect anybody to perform like that in the demo. *salute*
Kintaro said:
You should play the demo a few more times. The combat clicks it turns things up to a whole new level.
And the 360 version - is that much better than the PS3 version. It really is. Not saying the PS3 version is unplayable or 'embarrassing' - but it's just simply not as good. If one were to think the ps3 version is an 8/10 - the improvements on the 360 version is enough to make it 10/10.
Anyway, playing Bayonetta reminds me of the first time I played DMC1 almost 10 years ago. I've enjoyed other action games since, DMC3, NG1 (NG2 sucked) - but this is just on another whole new level. So fast, responsive, smooth etc.
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BeautifulMemory said:
Holy fucking shit. HD available too.
D
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BWAHAHAHAHA, I just did some punish move where I jumped on top of an enemy and started bitch slapping him with my gun. The animation was so funny.
This game is so fucking ridiculous.
This game is so fucking ridiculous.
LLaMa-Tech
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Been reading this thread all day. I got to play for a little while before work (PS3) and I can't read Japanese. I can't wait to get off work and put in a few hours with the demo later tonight.
Can someone explain how to set up one button play? I thought I had done it but it didn't seem to work (other buttons worked as well, or is this not the case).
Also this crazy angel battle is after you beat the first beasts before you go in that door?
I don't recall seeing much of a sword, maybe I was missing something. Can someone elaborate on this. I did pick up various other weapons like the axe, spiked ball n chain, and the bugle (<:lol )
Day One Purchase.
Side note: I hope they release an action figure that can chill at my desk at work
Can someone explain how to set up one button play? I thought I had done it but it didn't seem to work (other buttons worked as well, or is this not the case).
Also this crazy angel battle is after you beat the first beasts before you go in that door?
I don't recall seeing much of a sword, maybe I was missing something. Can someone elaborate on this. I did pick up various other weapons like the axe, spiked ball n chain, and the bugle (<:lol )
Day One Purchase.
Side note: I hope they release an action figure that can chill at my desk at work
Danne-Danger
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Press L2 to switch between Sword in hands/Shotguns on feet to Guns in hands/Guns on feet.LLaMa-Tech said:
Yes, it's that awesome.
LLaMa-Tech said:Been reading this thread all day. I got to play for a little while before work (PS3) and I can't read Japanese. I can't wait to get off work and put in a few hours with the demo later tonight.
Can someone explain how to set up one button play? I thought I had done it but it didn't seem to work (other buttons worked as well, or is this not the case).
Also this crazy angel battle is after you beat the first beasts before you go in that door?
I don't recall seeing much of a sword, maybe I was missing something. Can someone elaborate on this. I did pick up various other weapons like the axe, spiked ball n chain, and the bugle (<:lol )
Day One Purchase.
Side note: I hope they release an action figure that can chill at my desk at work
- One button play is Easy Automatic mode, the only other one you can select (other than Normal). And yes, you are supposed to be able to use more than one if you want to.
- Once you beat the giant beast with the axe, go back to the station where you begin the level and you'll play the secret showdown.
- The sword is selected by pressing L2 at any time, it's a main weapon unlike the angelical weapons you can pick up.
jabipun said:
I've played the demo quite a few times over. It feels like a refined DMC/Viewtiful Joe mix with a tacky chick and crazy shit.
360 version isn't going to chance the core mechanics of the demo even if the framerate is smoother. It would be a smoother 8 instead of a solid 8. Move on. One dude's opinion in a circle jerk. I hope the retail release kicks ass.
I recall hearing that when the game is loading you can stay on that screen and practice stuff, is that right? If so, I wish it let me do that in the demo. I want to try some sword stuff but it loads too fast, and staying in the actual tutorial doesn't let you switch to the sword.
LLaMa-Tech
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Danne-Danger said:
Peff said:
Thanks guys, even more jazzed to check this out
LLaMa-Tech
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ZealousD said:
I believe R1 was the lock, not sure how to switch the lock to another enemy.
Also what are the left, right, and up directional buttons used for?
Butterfly (or flower I can't remember helps add to your torture bar?
kiryogi said:
Damn it! In DMC4 I mapped lock-on to LT at the first opportunity. It feels so unnatural on R1 and I remember Kamiya saying you can't change the controls. =(
kiryogi said:
Yeah that's bullshit. I don't understand how he thinks having lock-on at RB/R1 is a good idea. It feels a million times better on L2/LT. Especially him thinking that everybody is going to think like him on this. Guess I'm just going to have to deal with it.
Rayven_king
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I've decided I'll rather stick with the ps3, the controller preference and the fact that I cant see a damn thing wrong with the ps3 version has convinced me
"God's Beard!"
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I just realized that I never used the lockon :lol
I just assumed that bayonetta was tracking enemies like in ninja gaiden. I was wondering how you guys were doing the stinger without lockon :lol
It was so hard to shoot enemies while bouncing off them like mario, too!
I just assumed that bayonetta was tracking enemies like in ninja gaiden. I was wondering how you guys were doing the stinger without lockon :lol
It was so hard to shoot enemies while bouncing off them like mario, too!
God's Beard said:
R1 (or, on the 360 version - right bumper) is lock-on, it acts more as a combo modifier than an actual lock to be perfectly honest. Don't know why they just don't call it a modifier button.
Rayven_king said:
The PS3 version is fine if that's all you know. Some screen tearing here and there, no biggie.
But once you play the 360 version, you won't be able to go back to the Ps3 version, it's that simple.
USD said:
I forgot about God Hand's dodge canceling, but my main point is that most action games do not incorporate them through intentional means like Bayonetta and God Hand does. I can't say I remember much about how God of War does things, but let's look at NG and DMC. In Ninja Gaiden, you can't even cancel combos to the extent that you can in Bayonetta in any of its games. The best you can do is in Ninja Gaiden Black where you can roll-cancel some moves (Mostly Vigoorian Flail moves), but you can never really follow them up into a whole new combo or any attack at all.
The only DMC games that are really cancel heavy are DMC3 and to a lesser extent DMC4, which is definitely not intentional as it is a physics glitch (ie, jumping off of a tiny bit of an enemy's hitbox). In DMC4's case, you can Snatch and Jump Cancel with Nero, but his combos are rather limited to begin with. In Dante's case, enemies die too quickly no matter what difficulty you're on for any canceling stream to be effective. Additionally, the Jump Cancel bread-and-butter move (Killer Bee) is horribly nerfed in DMC4.
"God's Beard!"
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jabipun said:
I just wasn't paying attention because it wasn't necessary. It's much easier to fight without it than in DMC.
FlashbladeGAF
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CadetMahoney said:
LLaMa-Tech said:...Side note: I hope they release an action figure that can chill at my desk at work
http://kotaku.com/5371506/bayonetta-figures-get-the-figure-right
image of Jeanne in the link as well
got the demo from that megaupload link.
I...I...I didn't like it , it's more of DMC concept , but then again I didn't like DMC too , nothing new in it imo over DMC , game did nothing for me , uh..GAF hype failed me again , uh never again GAF.
just please don't kill me , it's Bayonetta demo Impressions thread , and I am one cute SEGA fan ( sane one too ..I guess ) , thing is , the only Japaneses fast action games I liked were Ninja Gaiden ( all of them ) and SEGA's Shinobi ( and Kunoichi/nightshade ) , so maybe I just don't like this Kamiya style of gameplay.
it's sad for me because i was really hungry for some Bayonetta butt , it's nice butt indeed , but the demo killed my hype completely.
but will buy game to support SEGA , I even bought Golden Axe: Beast Rider and
Viking to support them , so why not Bayonetta.
sad sad day for me
I...I...I didn't like it , it's more of DMC concept , but then again I didn't like DMC too , nothing new in it imo over DMC , game did nothing for me , uh..GAF hype failed me again , uh never again GAF.
just please don't kill me , it's Bayonetta demo Impressions thread , and I am one cute SEGA fan ( sane one too ..I guess ) , thing is , the only Japaneses fast action games I liked were Ninja Gaiden ( all of them ) and SEGA's Shinobi ( and Kunoichi/nightshade ) , so maybe I just don't like this Kamiya style of gameplay.
it's sad for me because i was really hungry for some Bayonetta butt , it's nice butt indeed , but the demo killed my hype completely.
but will buy game to support SEGA , I even bought Golden Axe: Beast Rider and
Viking to support them , so why not Bayonetta.
sad sad day for me
FlashbladeGAF said:http://kotaku.com/5371506/bayonetta-figures-get-the-figure-right
image of Jeanne in the link as well
I'm totally going to get one of Bayonetta. Dunno about Jeanne.
Well, took a bit, but I got to try out the PSN demo.
It's very nice, but....if they can't polish these things out before the game goes gold, then I'll have to wait a while, and hope the US release may be better for it.
Otherwise, this game will have to wait until I can afford a 360 (which likely will be a minute).
It's very nice, but....if they can't polish these things out before the game goes gold, then I'll have to wait a while, and hope the US release may be better for it.
Otherwise, this game will have to wait until I can afford a 360 (which likely will be a minute).
TheChillyAcademic
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FINALLY got it Downloaded, phew what a demo. As a PS3 owner, I was extremely put off by all the negative posts about how the demo looked like absolute ASS. I can say, since I'm not graphics whore, the graphics (in the demo) were both vibrant and stylish.
Fun Stuff.
Fun Stuff.
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Played the PS3 demo. The only complaint I can really agree with is the graphics look a bit muddled..like there's a thin layer of dust on the screen. Other than that everything was smooth and looked great. Unless you're a giant graphics whore or fanbot, the PS3 version is fine. I played Heavenly Sword a few months ago, and the framerate in that is shit, and I still loved it. In the end this game is really fun and that's all that matters.
Wow, I am absolutely sold on this. Was pretty skeptical beforehand, but the impressions from the OP were pretty interesting. Love how fast-paced the combat mechanics are; DMC4 feels so sluggish compared to this. I can see how the underlying basics are similar between the two series, but Bayo is much more fluid. Extensive movelists, very agile character (between jumping and dodging around, you can pretty much move around the battlefield at a whim).
The battles are incredibly fun.
I've only played the PS3 version, and it's absolutely fine. I'm not too focused on technicalities, but it's extremely playable.
I'll have to try the 360 version and compare controls, but we'll see. I'm fine with the triggers (have to use it all the time to dodge around in NG2), so 360 version will probably be the version I'll be picking up, depending on the test run.
The battles are incredibly fun.
Fighting that giant while it was shaking the bridge was pretty hectic, and that fight with the witch while jumping around on walls and ceilings was awesome!
I've only played the PS3 version, and it's absolutely fine. I'm not too focused on technicalities, but it's extremely playable.
I'll have to try the 360 version and compare controls, but we'll see. I'm fine with the triggers (have to use it all the time to dodge around in NG2), so 360 version will probably be the version I'll be picking up, depending on the test run.