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Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)

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rtrbad

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Looks very cool. The Ad had me shouting at clouds at times though.

WTF - you lousy dog owner put the console down and throw a ball for your damn dog

WTF - friends wave you over to join them to socialise - leave damn thing at home

WTF - you stop playing actual real basketball to play simulated basketball on small screens (outside) - get back on the damn court

I know they're just conveying the "keep playing" aspect but some of those use cases rustled my jimmies as poor social choices.

Still looks very cool though. Want to see how screen really looks though.

My wife made pretty much all the same remarks when I made her watch it the 5th and 6th times.
 

Rozart

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The fuck?

This is the most sleek system you'll ever get from them Nintendo. The fact it doesn't look like a fisher price toy is a miracle. I mean you can't expect it to look like a iPhone or some shit especially with the hardware it's packing.

It looks more premium and sleek than the xbox and PS4.

Nicer than the PS4 and XB1S? Really? :s Not to me it doesn't.

I'm hoping that a white recolour of Switch will come out soon after the OG one is released.
 

mAcOdIn

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Rumors, that have largely panned out, claim it has a more powerful CPU than XB1 and PS4, but a slightly less powerful GPU, but it's a completely different architecture from the APU in the other consoles, so it really remains to be seen. Tegra's no slouch, and I think most believe it to be a custom chip based on their latest architecture. In fact that's what Nvidia said themselves, for all intents and purposes.
And what, half the RAM? And how much less workable storage space for assets? Well I guess if cost isn't an issue they can get a cart with Bluray level storage but not being able to uncompress compressed assets onto local storage will hurt it. I can't see it being on par with the PS4 and XB1. Not that their CPUs are powerhouses or anything it's just probably not going to be as well rounded. On the other hand using carts does have advantages too.

Still the more I think about this I may be in. I've always liked handheld games but I hate playing on handhelds. I've always wanted to just not have to bother with the handheld and play them on my TV. And yes, I know the 3DS's resolution was ass and it look like crap, I grew up with the Atari and NES, I can manage! I wanted the next Nintendo console to really outclass the Wii U and I don't think this will, let alone match the PS4 and XB1. That said, thinking about it more I may be ok with that. Honestly the Nintendo consoles have only been worth it for a handful of games and that's it and I'd rarely say they're outright graphical powerhouses wherw as the bulk of good games on Nintendo's systems are on their handheld, which this definitely bests. So those 5 or 6 games I would have bought on the next Nintendo console may not be significantly better than if they had been made for the Wii U but the handheld games will look a lot better and that's what most of the games I'd buy would be. And only needing the one system instead of having to buy two, I get the argument for people with kids but for me it'd work to my benefit just having to buy the one system.
 

rtrbad

Banned
Presumably this will come with some sort of cover or screen protector. I can see it getting scratched and battered if it's lugged around in a bag on a regular basis. There nothing to protect the sticks or screen which is one advantage of the clam shell design that they've now abandoned.

I don't see why it would be any less durable than any other tablet in that regard, but yeah a screen protector (and by experience, I recommend glass ones) is probably a really good idea in any case.
 
I don't see why it would be any less durable than any other tablet in that regard, but yeah a screen protector (and by experience, I recommend glass ones) is probably a really good idea in any case.

Most tablets come with a cover that folds like a book to offer protection.
 

kunonabi

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The fuck?

This is the most sleek system you'll ever get from them Nintendo. The fact it doesn't look like a fisher price toy is a miracle. I mean you can't expect it to look like a iPhone or some shit especially with the hardware it's packing.

It looks more premium and sleek than the xbox and PS4.

The pro controller, grip, and the dock are all freaking hideous and The base unit is incredibly plain and unassuming. That might be the point but it's a a real step down compared to nintendo' best work. The whole setup looks rushed and cheap which is ridiculous considering how long they've been working on it.
 

JayBabay

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Does anyone have any idea if the controllers are still connected wirelessly even when attached to the unit or is it a wireless connection 100% of the time?
 

rtrbad

Banned
And what, half the RAM? And how much less workable storage space for assets? Well I guess if cost isn't an issue they can get a cart with Bluray level storage but not being able to uncompress compressed assets onto local storage will hurt it. I can't see it being on par with the PS4 and XB1. Not that their CPUs are powerhouses or anything it's just probably not going to be as well rounded. On the other hand using carts does have advantages too.

Still the more I think about this I may be in. I've always liked handheld games but I hate playing on handhelds. I've always wanted to just not have to bother with the handheld and play them on my TV. And yes, I know the 3DS's resolution was ass and it look like crap, I grew up with the Atari and NES, I can manage! I wanted the next Nintendo console to really outclass the Wii U and I don't think this will, let alone match the PS4 and XB1. That said, thinking about it more I may be ok with that. Honestly the Nintendo consoles have only been worth it for a handful of games and that's it and I'd rarely say they're outright graphical powerhouses wherw as the bulk of good games on Nintendo's systems are on their handheld, which this definitely bests. So those 5 or 6 games I would have bought on the next Nintendo console may not be significantly better than if they had been made for the Wii U but the handheld games will look a lot better and that's what most of the games I'd buy would be. And only needing the one system instead of having to buy two, I get the argument for people with kids but for me it'd work to my benefit just having to buy the one system.

IDK, I tend not to question Nintendo and RAM, since the N64 it's never been the bottleneck or weak point in any sense. There's something to be said for creating well balanced and optimized hardware rather than slapping OTS parts in your box and calling it a console. iPhones routinely destroy other phones with twice as much or more processing grunt and system RAM. It's all about smart hardware design and really well optimized software, which Nintendo have always done well, and now Nvidia has a part in building their entire hardware and software ecosystem.
 

moolamb

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The greatest thing about this is we get all of Nintendo developers working on one machine. Imagine the library that this will build up...

Looks very cool. The Ad had me shouting at clouds at times though.

WTF - you lousy dog owner put the console down and throw a ball for your damn dog

WTF - friends wave you over to join them to socialise - leave damn thing at home

WTF - you stop playing actual real basketball to play simulated basketball on small screens (outside) - get back on the damn court

I know they're just conveying the "keep playing" aspect but some of those use cases rustled my jimmies as poor social choices.

Still looks very cool though. Want to see how screen really looks though.

Yeah, I was the same. Totally fictional, unrealistic situations but I guess you gotta sell the fantasy somehow. In reality we're all mostly gonna be playing this by ourselves...
 
I just need confirmation of a touchscreen, a webkit browser and an ability to pair a BT keyboard and I'm a day one purchaser even at ipad pricing.
 

cheesekao

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Am I the only one who has a niggling feeling that the dock will be the only way to charge the system? That could possibly mean that if you want to play at home for an extended period of time, you can't stick a charger cable into it and play it while it charges. Yes, yes, we don't know everything about the system but it's still something that concerns me in the event that I do get one.
 

Mato

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I'd rather there was a home version of this coming out also. The mobility is not something that interests me. My 6yo nephew will probably end up begging me to lend him the handheld. But on a personal level I only need it at home. So a simple home version + pro controller + Zelda would be more convenient.
 

Matt

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Am I the only one who has a niggling feeling that the dock will be the only way to charge the system? That could possibly mean that if you want to play at home for an extended period of time, you can't stick a charger cable into it and play it while it charges. Yes, yes, we don't know everything about the system but it's still something that concerns me in the event that I do get one.
Nah.
 

zoukka

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The form factor and portability are definitely winning material.

Now the age old question remains: whether the console is powerful enough and has an OS that 3rd parties will be interested at. The same exact challenge that Wii and Wii U faced.
 

rtrbad

Banned
I'd rather there was a home version of this coming out also. The mobility is not something that interests me. My 6yo nephew will probably end up begging me to lend him the handheld. But on a personal level I only need it at home. So a simple home version + pro controller + Zelda would be more convenient.

Really? Not even for a poo?
 
The greatest thing about this is we get all of Nintendo developers working on one machine. Imagine the library that this will build up...



Yeah, I was the same. Totally fictional, unrealistic situations but I guess you gotta sell the fantasy somehow. In reality we're all mostly gonna be playing this by ourselves...

They didn't show the bit where the van driver gets distracted by his friends playing Mario Kart and ploughs into a tree...
 

AniHawk

Member
The form factor and portability are definitely winning material.

Now the age old question remains: whether the console is powerful enough and has an OS that 3rd parties will be interested at. The same exact challenge that Wii and Wii U faced.

i think very few people really give a shit about operating systems. the power issue is legit though.
 

balohna

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I'm confused at what you're asking.

I think the question is if the joy-cons are connected wirelessly even when connected to the unit.

There is precedent for controllers working that way, Xbox 360 controllers are like that (cable charges the battery, connection is still Bluetooth) and I think the Wii U pro controller might be the same too.
 

Instro

Member
And what, half the RAM? And how much less workable storage space for assets? Well I guess if cost isn't an issue they can get a cart with Bluray level storage but not being able to uncompress compressed assets onto local storage will hurt it. I can't see it being on par with the PS4 and XB1. Not that their CPUs are powerhouses or anything it's just probably not going to be as well rounded. On the other hand using carts does have advantages too.

Still the more I think about this I may be in. I've always liked handheld games but I hate playing on handhelds. I've always wanted to just not have to bother with the handheld and play them on my TV. And yes, I know the 3DS's resolution was ass and it look like crap, I grew up with the Atari and NES, I can manage! I wanted the next Nintendo console to really outclass the Wii U and I don't think this will, let alone match the PS4 and XB1. That said, thinking about it more I may be ok with that. Honestly the Nintendo consoles have only been worth it for a handful of games and that's it and I'd rarely say they're outright graphical powerhouses wherw as the bulk of good games on Nintendo's systems are on their handheld, which this definitely bests. So those 5 or 6 games I would have bought on the next Nintendo console may not be significantly better than if they had been made for the Wii U but the handheld games will look a lot better and that's what most of the games I'd buy would be. And only needing the one system instead of having to buy two, I get the argument for people with kids but for me it'd work to my benefit just having to buy the one system.

Loading assets to internal storage is a way to alleviate slow disc drive speeds isn't it?
 

cripterion

Member
The design looks sleek and depending on the specs could make for an interesting console.
The YouTube video though was all kinds of levels of bad.

Actually laughing at the basketball dudes playing 2K17 on those tiny ass screens with the tiny pads.
 
I'm confused at what you're asking.
Kind of like how the XB1 controller goes into wired mode when connected to usb. It's not sending any data over the wireless antenna, it's all going through the cable. It's a small difference in latency, but people who are really sensitive to that stuff care a lot.

Also there's the "interference" argument too, which isn't a big issue unless you're somewhere with a lot of other wireless devices around.
 
Everyone I know carries a backpack around with them to and from work, and has tablets/laptops as well as gym gear and other stuff with them.

I literally don't know anyone who just shows up to work with just their wallet, keys, and phone.

THAT would be fucking weird to me.

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Everyone I know is like that. Just keys, wallet and phone!
Carrying a backpack around is weirder.
Never see it here. Especially for an adult!

Handheld is still the best selling system. Even better as ps4.
Everyone loved vita. This is way better

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This is a joke, right?
 
The pro controller, grip, and the dock are all freaking hideous and The base unit is incredibly plain and unassuming. That might be the point but it's a a real step down compared to nintendo' best work. The whole setup looks rushed and cheap which is ridiculous considering how long they've been working on it.

Yeah no, that's just your opinion, not a fact as you can see other people love it and are praising its design already as one of the best they've done in years.
 
The question remains how they will convince people like myself, who are never going to use the mobile aspect and people who use their smartphone/tablet for gaming, to spend 300(?) euro for a Nintendo device.
Where most people imo are only going to bring one device if they are on the go. I don't think that there's a huge market for a rather expensive device that does mobile and console gaming, with a limited library.

The idea seems neat, but they should worry about how they're going to convince people that this device is something that's going to be worth it. Reggie can talk about 'new' experiences possible with this device, but third party developers aren't going to support that. Why would EA or Ubisoft make a game specifically for the Switch if you have very similar and hugely popular platforms with the Xbox One, PS4 and PC. The Wii U has proven that not that much people are buying a console for Nintendo exclusives.
 
I'm absolutely, definitely, unquestionably so, so damn sold on this.

March can't come soon enough, I'm probably gonna be buying two of these.

I'm still hoping we'll hear something about Metroid or F-Zero before launch (not necessarily as launch games), but honestly Breath of the Wild and the new Mario are more than enough for me.

I'm definitely interested in whatever Konami's got cooking. I'm hoping for a MGSV port (I would die from hype if it happens), and hopefully Xenoverse, Project Cars and Tekken from Bandai Namco, Samurai Warriors Sanada-Maru and a Ninja Gaiden from Koei Tecmo, Monster Hunter and a port of Strider from Capcom, DIRT Rally from Codemasters and DOOM from Bethesda.

And of course, I'm really, REALLY hoping for Bayonetta 3.

The possibilities are endless, I'll buy all of my favorite third party games on this thing for sure.
 
JayBabay said:
Does anyone have any idea if the controllers are still connected wirelessly even when attached to the unit or is it a wireless connection 100% of the time?
I'm confused at what you're asking.
Some controllers (like Wii U Pro I think) will connect by USB but only for charging, while the actual communication with the unit remains entirely wireless. The question is if joy-cons are like this. The answer... I don't think we've seen enough to say for sure, but seems like it would be a needless complication and waste of battery power.
 

Spinluck

Member
My hype is kinda gone. If the thing has no TV mode, we are looking at a gimped console for the sake of being hybrid.

I dont do handheld gaming, so basically Im stuck with half a console and 720p games.

All so Nintendo can merge their console and handheld business.

Why didnt they just make a Gamecube 2.0 for at home and a handheld with similar but weaker tech for on the go. Then have all the games run at 2 modes. Much better than this hybrid shizzle.

Sounds like way more trouble than it's worth.

How about we wait for more news, you're projecting a bit. I don't get the "make another GameCube" demands. This thing will be able to do more than the GC ever could and then some.
 

Dinjooh

Member
If I didn't have my backpack with me or at least in my car, accessible if needed, I would feel woefully unprepared for life. Everything from the multitool, to the tablet, and the 3DS and lens wipes for my glasses.

Can't say I've ever had to use a multitool during my commute till and from work, but hey more power to you. Just saying, going without a backpack to work is very very common.
 

Speely

Banned
Yeah, so do you think the tablet is keeping them charged when they are attached to it?

I am guessing no simply because if the controllers need their own power anyway, keeping them reliant on that power would be one way to lessen the drain on the tablet's battery.

Edit: And sorry I misinterpreted what you were asking :)
 

ggx2ac

Member
It was pretty obvious I was talking about consoles. Nintendo's teams were also divided between consoles and handhelds until relatively recently. No need for "wtf am i reading" nonsense.

You were judging the performance of BotW due to the software developers having to deal with a "foreign" architecture: ARM.

You seem to be mistaking Iwata's announcement of the merger of hardware divisions as though its the merger of software teams to unify development.

When you look at 3DS and Wii U games though, you have staff - especially programmers that have worked on both 3DS and Wii U games, games which run on different CPU architectures, PPC and ARM.

Super Mario 3D Land: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_3D_Land/credits

Super Mario 3D World: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_3D_World/credits

Mario Kart 7: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Mario_Kart_7/credits

Mario Kart 8: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Mario_Kart_8/credits
 
I know some are wondering how this will sell to casuals, but a part of that will be the mobile aspect.

Nintendo has Super Mario Run coming. Let's see how they play their cards with their handheld games and how they tie them in to the Switch.
 

zoukka

Member
i think very few people really give a shit about operating systems. the power issue is legit though.

What. If the operating system doesn't have all the modern features and online components, it's completely and utterly dead in the water. Nintendo would be mad to make the same mistake third time in a row.
 

JayBabay

Member
I am guessing no simply because if the controllers need their own power anyway, keeping them reliant on that power would be one way to lessen the drain on the tablet's battery.

That's what I would imagine in regards to lightening the load on the main unit's battery. Not a big issue to deal with, but something to be on top of when going "portable" outside, depending on battery life.

Edit: And don't worry I just realized the redundant use of the word "wireless" and how confusing it sounds in my first question. But, I'm thankful you were able to figure it out anyway haha
 
I guess it depends on where you are. In London, almost everyone I see on public transport has some sort of bag with them.

Fair enough.
When I was in England and used public transport I agree that it was fairly common but that was like 15 years ago.
Guess it doesn't change much :/
I drive in my car now and never have a bag with me.
 
Is it sad that watching this made me want Capcom to release Resident Evil 4 on this?

I have that game for 4 different systems already and I would buy it again for portablility.
 
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