Musky_Cheese
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I think he does. FYI it’s not all about C.K.
I’d like to discuss the ultra woke Bill Burr. Please watch fully. Feel free to post a Bill Burr video or quote.
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Bill Burr makes sense
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I think he does. FYI it’s not all about C.K.
I’d like to discuss the ultra woke Bill Burr. Please watch fully. Feel free to post a Bill Burr video or quote.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Is his argument how are you progressive if you aren't ok with me jacking it to people? CK isn't in a shithouse for disagreeing though. Was it all consensual? If so then I don't get it. Also I like how he said jerkoffs about ab ppl while defending CK.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
From what I understand, CK asked women if he could jerk off in front of them, some of them said yes, thinking he was joking, but when someone said no, he didn't do it.
If someone says yes, how else can you really interrupt that? If someone makes a sexual proposition, don't kid around, say what you mean, people aren't mind readers.
CK is certainly guilty of being sleazy, but should people not forgive him? I don't know.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
He is a comedian, maybe they thought it was a joke? Burr makes some sense in the matter when he says to leave it to the cops. As in if CK actually did anything illegal. But other than being a gigantic creep I don't see why he was disowned from Hollywood...
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
They did think it was a joke but when you say "yes" to someone you can't act too upset when someone... does the thing you said yes to, like I said, people aren't mind readers.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
That’s not what Bill was saying. He said he wishes we could have conversations with each other about topics without the fear that we destory those who disagree. Not the CK was destroyed for disagreeing.
PedroPanache
Member
I thought this was an elegant essay on the ramifications of Louis doing what he did, and the nuance beyond "what's the problem? They consented."
http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/louis-c-k-put-me-in-a-lose-lose-situation.html
As for Bill, he's right, of course. Twitter is a huge part of why there's this decline in dialogue between people, just by the very nature of how it works. Which is incredibly ironic, if you think about it. You're given direct access to a person and their space, and all we're seemingly doing now is trading insults and barbs and reducing issues to their most simplistic and base form.
http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/louis-c-k-put-me-in-a-lose-lose-situation.html
As for Bill, he's right, of course. Twitter is a huge part of why there's this decline in dialogue between people, just by the very nature of how it works. Which is incredibly ironic, if you think about it. You're given direct access to a person and their space, and all we're seemingly doing now is trading insults and barbs and reducing issues to their most simplistic and base form.
Unknown Quantity
Member
Bill is funny, and most of the time on point. His stuff on conan is always good. Stand up and comedy in general should be seen for what it is, finding the funny in a messed up situation is welcome imo. If these people aren't given a creative umbrella then we're doomed to a boring soulless existence.
CK messed up, but no one is perfect. If you're not happy with someone tugging while your on the phone with them, hang up. The stuff he did to comedians who couldn't laugh it off, or take the opportunity to rip him a new one is uninspiring.
Chappelle even defends him and other comedians who may have had some material backfire. Shake it off and keep going. Hannibals (Buress) comedy got some justice and may have kicked off the me2 movement, so give em some leeway.
CK messed up, but no one is perfect. If you're not happy with someone tugging while your on the phone with them, hang up. The stuff he did to comedians who couldn't laugh it off, or take the opportunity to rip him a new one is uninspiring.
Chappelle even defends him and other comedians who may have had some material backfire. Shake it off and keep going. Hannibals (Buress) comedy got some justice and may have kicked off the me2 movement, so give em some leeway.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Did you see Norm’s new Netflix show. The one with Judge Judy is really good.
Catphish
Member
I watched the David Spade one last night. Shit damn near killed me.
PedroPanache
Member
I see Norm survived his mouth-in-foot scare and his show made it onto the service. I've not watched it properly yet, but from a cursory glance, I prefer the aesthetic of the YouTube show. It makes me sad that all those shows disappeared. When I need a good laugh, I'll watch the madness of his Stephen Merchant episode. Nobody fucks with Uncle Terry.
Battersea Power Station
Member
Hilarious how even in a 5 minute clip unrelated to sports or basketball, Simmons tried to make LeBron sound silly but Burr didn't bite at all.
Discipline? Most people become comedians because they don't want a routine, normal job. Sure, they work hard, but usually it's because of passion and not because of patience or discipline. Do you care to elaborate on why you think discipline is a desirable skill to make a comedian more enjoyable to watch?
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
BANGS
Banned
There's not much more to elaborate on. As you said, he lacks discipline and patience, which is why he's so damn wrong on a lot of things. I'm not saying he's a bad comedian, I'm saying he's a bad "wise man" if anyone is holding him up to that pedestal like OP is...
Battersea Power Station
Member
OK, so if I understand correctly: you're not prescribing patience and discipline for Bill Burr; you're telling
Musky_Cheese
that if he thinks "Bill Burr makes sense," as was his claim/question, that he should be careful in following Bill Burr's thoughts because Bill Burr is often wrong. And instead, if he wants to choose a role model of thought, he should pick someone with more discipline and patience because that person will, presumably, be correct much more often. Is that right?
Nymphae
Banned
Likely because the platform was designed around stupid character limits that encourage shitposts. Take away the ability to have a nuanced in-depth discussion, and obviously this is was going to be the result. I never understood why there is even a character limit, that aspect has always turned me off from the service. I'm just amazed so many people seem to be able to enjoy it, I cannot for the life of me be bothered to make sense of tweet threads and all the jargon and @replies vs replies, I never wanted to learn the platform because the discussions seemed like trash. Yeah there's gems anywhere, but I have tried so many times to get into it, and it's not for me. Forums are still the best way to have an in depth discussion in my opinion.
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BANGS
Banned
100%OK, so if I understand correctly: you're not prescribing patience and discipline for Bill Burr; you're telling
BANGS
Banned
I agree forums will always be best, so long as they have fair mods and terms of use...
I too never undertstood why people have twitter, snapchat, all that shit when facebook does all the same shit in one service/account. It seems so pointless to have all these others...
niveaformen
Banned
People use these different platforms to different degrees, for different purposes. But primarily it's to get as much exposure as possible because we want to believe people give a damn about our opinions and monotonous photos.
Papa
Banned
He’s not a sex offender. He never did anything illegal and stopped when he was told no. He’s a creepy dude with a weird fetish at best. This isn’t the first time you’ve been corrected on this and all you’re doing is diluting what should be a very serious label.
Gander
Banned
Creepy dudes that whip out there penis in professional settings are sex offenders. I'm happy to correct you, it's indecent exposure. You're welcome.
Pumpkin Seeds
Member
If you ask a gal to watch you jerk it and she says no and you don't, it's not a sex offense. It's just sad and desperate.
Papa
Banned
You’re misrepresenting as usual. He whipped his cock out in hotel rooms after seeking permission.
niveaformen
Banned
What's creepy about it? Creepy would be jacking off behind a two way mirror while she's changing
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BANGS
Banned
Yeah that's the part I don't get lmfao... I mean if you're a business or celebrity I get it but otherwise...
Grinchy
Banned
"I will never go and pay to see his comedy nor will I ever watch anything he stars in, directs, or produces."
- That should be as far as it should really go if you're someone who is bothered by him asking if he can jerk off in front of women.
"I'm going to make it my duty to make sure his life is over and he can never find work again. I want to see him lose his family and friends and be homeless."
- This is as far as you should go if you're a psycho.
- That should be as far as it should really go if you're someone who is bothered by him asking if he can jerk off in front of women.
"I'm going to make it my duty to make sure his life is over and he can never find work again. I want to see him lose his family and friends and be homeless."
- This is as far as you should go if you're a psycho.
Unknown Quantity
Member
Spot on.
If I told you your favourite writer/actor/artist did those things it shouldn't negate their work. Differentiating between the art and the artist is very complicated for some. I don't like CK as much as I used to but I'll rewatch that snl phone shop skit again and if a future work interests me then I may peruse.
Tesseract
Banned
he asked, they consented. it's def a weird fetish thing, and gross behavior, but that doesn't make him a sex offender.