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Black demo?
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Seventh Son
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demo's all have the same color on the inside
chinmonster
Member
olimario said:
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I think the blur is fine, I mean it looks cool and it really won't change gameplay all that much. And can you really focus on your enemy anyways when you're trying to reload a shotgun or something?
acr0nym said:Anyone get it yet? I just called my local Game Crazy and they said he has it. Gonna head over after I eat this pasta. Will be back shortly with impressions!
Yes please!
I am particularly concerned by how they are adding a blur when you are reloading weapons. I saw the video of it, and it really felt unnatural. It breaks the rhythm of the game too. I thought this game was about shooting everything you see non-stop.
Let me know if you felt bothered or thought it was ok.
bumpkin
Member
I think it makes perfect sense. If you were reloading a gun in real life, everything else in your line of sight would get blurry while you focused your sight on your weapon. Stare at something, then look at something else. It's like maaaaaaagic.Troidal said:
Though the weapons should be blurry when you're not reloading for the effect to make sense.
Btw, GameCrazy has had the demo for at least a few days. I played it a few days ago and was going to post impressions, but figured it had already been talked about here.
I thought it was pretty damn good. The left analog stick seemed broken, but other than that it controlled well, and looked very impressive. The loading screen/story stuff seemed like everyday EA generic-ness, but other than that it was a lot of fun. Physics and damage effects are pretty amazing for PS2.
I thought it was pretty damn good. The left analog stick seemed broken, but other than that it controlled well, and looked very impressive. The loading screen/story stuff seemed like everyday EA generic-ness, but other than that it was a lot of fun. Physics and damage effects are pretty amazing for PS2.
bumpkin said:
Yes I am aware of that. I think you or someone else mentioned that in the other Black thread. But do we need everything to be realistic? And people in the army actually don't look at their weapons when they reload, maybe just a glance, but not stare at it.
Also, it may have felt more natural if the reload animation was like Killzone when your actually looking away from the battlefield. But in Black, your sight remains on the field, and the whole reload animation is happening at the bottom right. Nobody cares to look at reloads in FPS and that's why the blur feels strikingly odd.
So the question is: What do you want me to do when I play Black? Look at the clip reload just so I feel the realism in it?
Ok, just got back from Game Crazy. Got the demo and yes they've had it for a few days and only have a couple left. I'm in Northern CA by the way. I'm gonna go play it now. Do you guys want impressions, I know this game has been talked to death so I don't want to waste my time if no one cares?
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BlueTsunami
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acr0nym said:
I think hes talking about when the background goes kinda hazy when your reloading, then goes back to normal.
Pedigree Chum
Banned
Does anyone know if EB is supposed to get this demo? I might go preorder this weekend if that's the case.
Also Came Crazy is Holywood video's offshoot right?
Also Came Crazy is Holywood video's offshoot right?
Pedigree Chum
Banned
Kobold said:I'm playing the review code as we speak!
Your super happy avatar + this news = me sick to my stomach *grr*
Red Blaster
Member
Can we get some detailed impressions?
You may have noticed, Black is not some kind of 'deep' gaming experience. You shoot guns, lots of guns. That's pretty much all there is to it...
Combine Ghost Recon with TimeSplitters and give it awesome gun sounds, and you have Black basically. (Sans the humor)
I'm at the fourth level or so, and I'm finding it a tad boring and repetative. I was expecting every level to offer something unique. But outside of different enviroments, the challenges are so far, identical. (dudes coming from everywhere, dudes shooting from sniper positions, or with RPG's high up, dudes in buildings, etc. That's the extent of the variation so far)
Outside of that, it looks nice most of the time, nice solid framerate (Xbox) awesome looking guns and masterfully sounding. Cutscenes are real life action (well, 'action', there is two dudes in a room, you only see their faces and the voice acting is horrendous...), very boring and long, non-skippable.
So yeah, I'm enjoying it somewhat, but it's not as much a spectacle yet, but then again maybe I'm not at the best parts yet.
Combine Ghost Recon with TimeSplitters and give it awesome gun sounds, and you have Black basically. (Sans the humor)
I'm at the fourth level or so, and I'm finding it a tad boring and repetative. I was expecting every level to offer something unique. But outside of different enviroments, the challenges are so far, identical. (dudes coming from everywhere, dudes shooting from sniper positions, or with RPG's high up, dudes in buildings, etc. That's the extent of the variation so far)
Outside of that, it looks nice most of the time, nice solid framerate (Xbox) awesome looking guns and masterfully sounding. Cutscenes are real life action (well, 'action', there is two dudes in a room, you only see their faces and the voice acting is horrendous...), very boring and long, non-skippable.
So yeah, I'm enjoying it somewhat, but it's not as much a spectacle yet, but then again maybe I'm not at the best parts yet.
Ok I'm post a little impression. Oh and I'm really mad that I don't have a review code of this game. Anyways one to the impression of the demo disk.
First off when you guys get a chnace to play this note, to me this seems like really early code. Theres no blur or hazey effect while loading. I saw some pretty crappy animations as well. There was one part a member of my team floated right past me not even walking! But any ways my first run out on the demo I just ran out and started blasting. I died in like 30sec.
So reloaded the demo and I went to try again. At first I thought it might be the ps2 controller (it wasn't, although it does take a bit of getting use to) But you totally have to take cover in this game, you will not survive just running out gunning. I also noticed there was no rumble when I shot the gun (again very early code?) The game looks great with everything flying everywhere as you shot. Also take note the demo is extremly short. I took my time and still finished it under 10 mins.
So that is why I wish I the review code of this game. Man does it show great potential, and after looking back at the video's I can't wait to get my hands on it next month. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
First off when you guys get a chnace to play this note, to me this seems like really early code. Theres no blur or hazey effect while loading. I saw some pretty crappy animations as well. There was one part a member of my team floated right past me not even walking! But any ways my first run out on the demo I just ran out and started blasting. I died in like 30sec.
So reloaded the demo and I went to try again. At first I thought it might be the ps2 controller (it wasn't, although it does take a bit of getting use to) But you totally have to take cover in this game, you will not survive just running out gunning. I also noticed there was no rumble when I shot the gun (again very early code?) The game looks great with everything flying everywhere as you shot. Also take note the demo is extremly short. I took my time and still finished it under 10 mins.
So that is why I wish I the review code of this game. Man does it show great potential, and after looking back at the video's I can't wait to get my hands on it next month. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
TekunoRobby
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Is it a PS2-only demo or do they have Xbox versions?
I'm playing on hard. On normal you don't need to take cover, you can just run in and kill everything. One thing that annoys me is that enemies can take half a clip in the gut before dying. The animations are still crappy and the physics are almost non-existant. Plus, the destructable enviroments are very selective. So only if it makes sense you can destroy it. Not just anything and sometimes it's inconsistent.blackadde said:
Plus you run incredibly slow hehe. Levels are pretty big and for some reason ( I think it's becuase they need to stream data) they have ledges and the like, so when you go down it, you can't return to the first part of the level. Which is dumb, since you have to gather objects and destroy stuff as secondary objectives. So if you miss those first ones you have to restart, which is dumb.
But shooting the guns is cool.
blackadde said:
You can play it fast or slow. 3rd time playing I took my timed and sniped everyone. 4th time I sped through it and using lots of grenades. Kinda on same pace as Halo I would say just doesn't have as smooth control. But it is a demoa dn its the duel shock, so take that for what you will. AI was also really dumb. Damage was good as I expected. nothing wowed me. But no other game as taken it to the level as Black has, stuff falling apart everywhere.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Did Criterion keep their tradition of 60 FPS against all odds?
acr0nym said:
Thanks for checking!
Kobold said:
Cool, thanks for your impressions. I was a bit worried it was going to be like that :/
The whole "wooh, exclusive to only media" type of promotion had me thinking there wasn't much depth in the first place.
*slowly slipping away from buy-list*
Marconelly said:
I'm sure this is the case. This team does not sacrafice their 60fps. Thats one of the many reason why I love them.
It sounds like this game isn't gonna be the mind blowing experience many were hoping. It's sounding like an 8.5 game right now. I'm sure it will get some 9's too.
No, not really.Joico said:
It's not like Geo-Mod at all. You can shoot cover and destroy it. Some other things. But no shooting holes in anything (except cover and selective stuff that bars your way maybe) of that kind.
BTW, off-topic, who sets the user titles under your name on these boards? Aperantly someone granted me the honor of this marvelous user-title. But I would love to ask him why and to what use?
I think so. Theres been no slowdown whatsoever so far and it's pretty fluid. So it's a perfectly stable 30 or 60 FPS. Personall I don't care which one of those as long as it's stable.Marconelly said:
Pretty impressive with some of the nice graphics and effects going on on screen most of the time.
Kobold said:No, not really.
It's not like Geo-Mod at all. You can shoot cover and destroy it. Some other things. But no shooting holes in anything (except cover and selective stuff that bars your way maybe) of that kind.
BTW, off-topic, who sets the user titles under your name on these boards? Aperantly someone granted me the honor of this marvelous user-title. But I would love to ask him why and to what use?
bwahhahaa
Red Blaster
Member
I had to roll my eyes at Alex Ward on last week's 1up show.
"GUNS ARE SO COOL I WANT TO MAKE A GAME THAT DEPICTS THEM AS THEY ARE IN REAL LIFE"
And then Black ends up having no blood. Guns are cool except for what they're used for!
"GUNS ARE SO COOL I WANT TO MAKE A GAME THAT DEPICTS THEM AS THEY ARE IN REAL LIFE"
And then Black ends up having no blood. Guns are cool except for what they're used for!
jett said:
Look man...duck and cover might be your style of play. I just want to go out with guns blazing.
And for a game like Black, which they promoted as "shoot everything, non-stop mayhem", somehow this blur thing doesn't fit well. Unless they misled us to believe it was something actually more of an orthodox FPS...which in early impressions seems that way.
Seems like this game will be another example of the old tech holding back the true potential of a game like this, or at least that's what i hope it is. I have been waiting for a game to truly reflect realtime damage, it's kind of my little holy grail that i have been wanting for ever since i played Red Faction. I knew that Black would only use tricks to give the impression.
But i believe with next gen, there shouldn't be anymore excuses and it should only be a matter of time until we get actual physics-based real-time distruction. Maybe will have to wait till Black 2.
But i believe with next gen, there shouldn't be anymore excuses and it should only be a matter of time until we get actual physics-based real-time distruction. Maybe will have to wait till Black 2.
I played it brieftly at my local store and while I was blown away, this is deffinitly the E3 2005 demo that they had given to the press. If you read this preview from the E3 2k5 impressions from Gamespot it seems like they are talking about the same demo.
And if you read their new preview of a later build, it seems that they have improved quite a few things including the animation.
Regardless I loved the demo and it's shame that despite the fact that I preordered I'm not getting a demo. What I can say is that the demo will be available in the next OPM magazine (the one after the Kojima cover).
And if you read their new preview of a later build, it seems that they have improved quite a few things including the animation.
Regardless I loved the demo and it's shame that despite the fact that I preordered I'm not getting a demo. What I can say is that the demo will be available in the next OPM magazine (the one after the Kojima cover).
Pedigree Chum
Banned
black_13 said:
I have that OPM, and in the blurb where they mention what demo's will be included in the next mag there was no mention of Black.