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It's inIs the quote from OP in the movie? Because didn't the people of Wakanda basically build an invisible "WALL" around the city to keep people out? Or was that just a lazy 'jab' at Trump or something? I don't plan on seeing the movie anytime soon so can someone fill me in?
The movie is carried by the supporting cast (mostly the women). What is heroic, charming, brave or inspiring about the actual black panther. Had the bad guy not been a total dick I was more in awe of him.
It was pretty great. Michael B Jordan as the villain was perfect and I'm glad they managed to finally nail one in a Marvel film. He wasn't even so much villain as he was an antagonist. The film doesn't go into it too deeply but it tackling a lot of things when juxtaposed with the situation and setting left a lot to think about it. It would have been nice to see the film dig a bit more into that but it's a superhero film so it wasn't going to go that deep into them.
My biggest complaint was probably the weak CG at some points and the climax could have been more interesting. I did like the move T'Challa did at the last minute and it was interesting but I was hoping for something more a bit more bare-knuckle there.
Is the quote from OP in the movie? Because didn't the people of Wakanda basically build an invisible "WALL" around the city to keep people out? Or was that just a lazy 'jab' at Trump or something? I don't plan on seeing the movie anytime soon so can someone fill me in?
Ironically, Wakanda is far more ethnocentric, closed minded and supremacist than Trump.
I've heard that but wasnt sure if it was true or just stupid facebook memes. I see it's confirmed here.Ironically, Wakanda is far more ethnocentric, closed minded and supremacist than Trump.
The quote makes sense in the context it was used in the filmI've heard that but wasnt sure if it was true or just stupid facebook memes. I see it's confirmed here.
I'm waiting for the bluray release for this one but glad it's getting great reviews.
I think that's kind of the point - national pride, segregation from the world via ideals, etc - it's not about the actual colour of skin, but can happen anywhere, no matter the intentions. The whole point is that he grows and overcomes that ideal. I think the actual quote uses "barriers" and not walls if I am to remember correctly.Ironically, Wakanda is far more ethnocentric, closed minded and supremacist than Trump.
Indeed, T'Challa is basically "Wakanda first" for most of the movie. Isolationist, doesn't care for the troubles all around the world because "we're fine here", and puts soldiers all along the border to prevent foreigners from entering.
It was alright. I wasn't expecting the movie to turn me around on Black Panther (I find him to be an incredibly boring character, sorry), and it didn't. But I liked a bunch of other characters, namely Killmonger... to the point where I wish it focused on Killmonger a LOT more. But unfortunately, this is a Marvel movie we're talking about so the villain is merely there to die at the end. At least he had some backstory this time... that we got to see for a grand total of 90 seconds.
Edit: Forgot to mention I also really liked BP's sister. Between Black Mirror and this, that actress is one to look out for, IMO.
Yeah that's my problem with Black Panther as well. He's perfect. He's brave, kind, smart, strong, honorable, etc...He has no faults, so it's hard to find him interesting. Even Thor has some faults. I think Marvel designed him to be the black Superman...it almost seemed like they were afraid to design a black superhero that had faults just like any normal human being.
Is the quote from OP in the movie? Because didn't the people of Wakanda basically build an invisible "WALL" around the city to keep people out? Or was that just a lazy 'jab' at Trump or something? I don't plan on seeing the movie anytime soon so can someone fill me in?
But that’s the point.....at the end be completely admits his mistake and reaches out to the outside world.
Killmonger's plan makes no sense. Send super weapons to fight opression in london? Hong Kong? What opression?
You know what would've been a good plan? Take over africa. Kill all whiteys, i mean colonizers there. Hell, enslave them.
Turn the african continent into a wakandan empire. A black supremacist nation. Killmonger, the black hitler. This would have made him a cool villain. Instead of a big tits bimbo. Who has the biggest man tits? Kylo Ren or Killmonger?
It's like there's no africa outside of wakanda. Africa, a continent plagued with poverty, disease and where slavery still exists. No, lets help those american kids. The audience will love it. The only black man that matters is the one being opressed somehow by Trump.
I love how T'Challa creates an international aid center in the USA. You know, the richest most powerful country in the world.
Yeah that's also a weakness of the movie, but then it's logical considering the source material. It's a US-centric comic, so it has US-centric concerns/illustrations. The concept of a highly advanced country in Africa has a lot of potential indeed, and the way it's told doesn't always make sense from an African/international point of view, but well in the end it's still an American movie.
Saw it last night, it was an ok movie made good because of the cast. Also, I think I'm done with 3d movies. It's completely pointless.
P.s: the soundtrack is awesome!
He does, but I think the character development to reach that conclusion is weak. It's not like the events of the movie made T'Challa realize there was poverty in the world, from the very beginning we see that he knows that, is close to someone who pushes for more intervention, and he's all "not my problem". And nobody (but Nakia) gives him shit for that.
Towards the end of the movie, the thing that makes him sad/angry is "we've totally been unfair to my cousin". It's not that there are poor people out there, but that a member of their family had to endure it. If T'Chaka had taken the boy wit him, everything would have been fine for him, I guess.
As a matter of fact one has to wonder what made him change his mind and open Wakanda to the world. Did Killmonger's fight and death really "open his eyes" ? (as far as T'Challa's concerned, he's only been fighting to keep his throne, after all). Or was it just because "now the CIA knows about us, the cat is out of the bag, we may as well go public..."
Yeah that's also a weakness of the movie, but then it's logical considering the source material. It's a US-centric comic, so it has US-centric concerns/illustrations. The concept of a highly advanced country in Africa has a lot of potential indeed, and the way it's told doesn't always make sense from an African/international point of view, but well in the end it's still an American movie.
The movie was okay, a fun family film to watch. Killmonger was a bad enemy, did not buy his convictions for wanting to ruin Wakanda. Got a funny feeling that they would play it safe and they did for this film, way to safe if you ask me, theres a scene when they slit someones throat and not a single drop of blood, that pissed me off abit. That aside , i felt very little actual African influence, As an African i wanted to see actual scenes shot on location in Africa to showing the sun rise, I wanted to see African actors and actresses from Nollywood to East Africa. Nope. Even the album from Kendrick had zero African influences. Film was made to sell tickets and toys thats its i hate the politicization the world has put into this film
He said superhero. Not B-tier hero that was relegated to a bad Netflix show.Luke Cage has plenty of faults
Bro, hip hop has been TRASH for the past decade to many, many people. If the film was full of that modern shit that was in the trailer, I would have knocked it for that as well. But thankfully, like Spirit Icana said, the film actually had a good ORIGINAL soundtrack that didn't rely on licensed crap from today's hottest ringtone rappers.Lame rap stuff? Are you serious?
You’ll consider not seeing movie because a rap song is used in the trailer?
Have you actually listened to “Legend Has
It” by Run The Jewels, or Bagpak by Vince Staples (the two songs from the two trailers)?
That just seems like silly reasoning to me. If the trailers used Hank Williams songs would you have felt better?
flawless in the sense that he's a goody-two-shoes. He's a character that always says and does the "right" thing.T'challa doesn't seem anymore flawless than say Steve imo I mean the guy got owned by some random upstart in ritual combat
I feel like some of the criticisms here are due to lack of paying attention.
It would seem so.
I have some legit critiques, but thought I'd let the topic flow naturally rather than by my own whims.
But for the record,BP isn't a bad movie, but I went in with the wrong expectations. I was expecting a standard super hero movie where BP would kick butt and take names. What I got instead, was a movie titled "Black Panther" that was actually about everything else: Wakanda as an Afro-futuristic utopia, the Dora Milaje, the other powerful tribes that make up the kingdom, Killmonger's redemption, if you will. Even the final showdown between Killmonger and T'Challa ends more of a Shakespearan tragedy than the good guy triumphing over evil.[/spoilers]
I have other opinions, but I want to see the film again, going in with shifted expectations. Maybe I'll enjoy it more, maybe it will reinforce my grievances.
But you liked the action right? Also I feel like the trailers were spot on in representation.
What was the point of shoe horning the white agent in the movie to get one off “yur wyite!” Jokes? He served no purpose what so ever.
Ross was in the film to keep the film connected to the other Marvel shit going on since he was in a previous film. It also helped be another force for Wakanda to open up to the rest of the world since they saved him and he was obligated to report what he had seen. The "another broken white boy" joke was pretty funny too.
I did. I was just expecting something more direct, like Thanos or his henchmen doing something. I mean Bucky being there was after credits scene in civil war alreadySomeone didn't stay long enough to see both post-credit videos.
As a black woman, I felt like Wakanda wouldn't accept me for who I am because of their holier-than-thou philosophy behind their motives and culture. Its funny who all my friends including me walked out of the theatre and started criticizing Wakanda for making us African Americans sound like blood-thirsty ignorants who wouldn't know how to utilize Vibranium without resorting to violence. Its still upsetting to me personally that I, an African American Woman, was depicted this way. There's alot of issues with the movie in its depiction of races and their philosophies.