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Bloomberg: Nintendo Market Value Passes Sony on Pokemon Go Frenzy
- Thread starter SinCityAssassin
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I may have heard wrong, but I believe Nintendo had zero involvement in the development of the application itself. They merely licensed the use of Pokémon to Niantic.
I didn't really say anything about Metroid Federation Force and I don't know enough about it to.
The GO Plus device looks cheap and crap man.
It's not just about finances though. (and it's Niantic who are making the money, Nintendo are only making the money from licensing Pokémon. Correct me if I'm wrong on that though). Think more in terms of brand awareness and marketing - more people are talking about Pokémon now after one mobile game than decades of mainline handheld Pokemon games.
Little Monser
Banned
Nah it's won't be a short term thing
Release more Pokemon to catch
SinCityAssassin
Member
Iwata helped spearhead the original idea with Ishihara of the Pokémon Company and Nintendo reps lightly supervised the development, but more DIRECT involvement was between the Pokemon Company and Niantic.
Investment accounting basically implies Nintendo not only gets part of Pokemon Company's share of the profit, but also have their own cut of the revenue as part of investing in Niantic.
Glad for them but beware, that huge amount of capital value supported by just 1 game brings extreme volatility and risk to the shares. It's all good but be very careful of speculators' price bubbles, it could damage the current rating of the stock if something goes wrong, hope not.
A huge wave of news articles about how Nintendo is doomed.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
What exactly does this game have to do with Nintendo? They don't even have their name on the product. Did they conceive the idea for Pokemon Go, or was this the brainchild of The Pokemon Company? Niantic developed the game, and until recently were part of Alphabet (Google). Does Pokemon Go represent a small part of a larger strategy to go towards mobile gaming with their IPs or is this just something unique to Pokemon?
And_Gignac
Member
Iwata (Nintendo) and Ishihara (TPC) helped conceive and develop the concept.
Nintendo have financed it like they do many third party developed games of their franchises. Niantic developed.
Nintendo developed the Pokémon GO Plus device.
Don't think that will happen, they will be around as long as gaming exists. I think once the frenzy is over their stock price will drop back down to what it was a month ago.
I'm buying stocks, ASAP!
You serious? As a long time Nintendo fan this scares me a bit, I can see them focusing more on mobile more so then consoles going forward after these results and I am not a fan of that at all.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Great. Now wait for the unavoidable decrease (probably still higher than before go) and the return of the Nintendo is doomed articles.
Fox Mulder
Member
You know what he means. This is an unprecedented performance from a mobile app and the franchise, and is certainly a fad.
Stocks will surely drop but it will not be as low as it was a month ago. Its fundamentals will surely be stronger since the game is earning well so it will just settle to its real valuation, which is guaranteed to be higher than a month ago, when the financials gets released.
Sign me the hell up for Monster Hunter Go.
Clearly the next one should be Dark Souls Go
Yeh, didn't realise how low it was a month ago lol
if NX will succeed, they will continue pursuing the dedicated console market.
That's pretty...well, sure. I'd say even obvious.
Their actual success (with GO, but on a way smalle scale also with amiibo for example. Let's see how the Classic Mini will perform) is due exactly to their IP strength. Something that without the dedicated console market wouldn't even exist.
Plus, GO is pretty good in showing, to me, how they intend to develop their App, without shadowing their actual games. I mean, I don't know if many GO players will buy Sun/Moon, but for sure I don't see many Sun/Moon buyers skipping it because of the GO esxperience.
The GO experience is not something that is going to substitute a normal Pokemon game (story, mechanics, and so on), but a sociall app that is spreading the Pokemon brand awarness like never before.
Herb Alpert
Banned
This is very well said.
How the hell does we capture the monster here? Do we need to buy shock trap, everytime we are going to catch the monster? We also need to get some tranq too....... Capcom see "kaching" moment lol.^_^
Free version only let's you cook raw or burnt meat. Well Done are cashshop purchases...
Hero of Legend
Member
And they were right at invizimals being first, but it was not at the right time and not in the right medium.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's not unprecedent for the franchise, the franchise didn't just suddenly grow large this is the same franchise that made as much revenue as star wars did in 2015, the franchise has always been massive, this is just a new profitable venture for the franchise that's given it new life in the same way the new star wars films did.
Damn Capcom........ The F2P will only allow you to use the supply item. No sharpener can be get from the field at all lol.
Umm..... it is not like that feature is exclusive to Invizimals though? I mean many other games also uses AR camera there like Denpamen........anyway what the hell is Invizimal anyway?
SinCityAssassin
Member
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$3 BILLION IN 3 HOURS, IS THIS REAL?!
$3 Billion in more like 8 hours. No one made a thread about this for a while.
Never underestimate peoples drive to catch/evolve stuff. It feels...
Rewarding to do either which has a lot to do with the rage.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Whilst I agree with you, Nintendo needs to expand and do other things outside of the dedicated console and portable space if you want to seenthe company remains around/relevant in 5 years. They're basically a non entity in the home console market and without knowing what NX is, I think the next portable will have a hard time hitting half of 3DS' numbers.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Yeah, AR isn't what made Pokémon Go a success on its own - it's mostly the cloud-based mapping and real-time map data that allows the same players to see the same Pokémon in the real world, battle at the same gyms and ultimately share the same experiences.
What's interesting is the senior producer at XDev Europe tweeted about it too.
I'm not really sure what Invizimals did first, since Pokémon Dream Radar was an AR Pokémon game that pre-dated it by a whole year. Did Invizimals Vita have GPS/mobile data functionality with the 3G Vita or something?
Exterminieren
Banned
We have the Pokémon MMO. It's called Pokémon Go.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Invisimals was first a PSP game in 2009, so they still predated it.
I just read this and holy shit Pokemon is literally boosting Japan's economy lmao.
On a related note, here's an interesting take on this rise:
If these profit estimates are met, then the current spike is legit. We'll still have to see how well the accessory will sell.
Sony is dad.
Incomparable, really. There's no market value for the Devices division (the closest comparable subset) that I'm aware of.
Incomparable, really. There's no market value for the Devices division (the closest comparable subset) that I'm aware of.
valkillmore
Member
True story here. My wife and I walked to the garbage bin in our apartment complex, which is probably a three minute walk tops.
We saw three people on foot playing Pokemon Go. Not only that, we saw a car drive into our complex, had four people in it, everyone (including the driver) was on their phone, swiping.
We also were playing.
We saw three people on foot playing Pokemon Go. Not only that, we saw a car drive into our complex, had four people in it, everyone (including the driver) was on their phone, swiping.
We also were playing.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Who's the author that wrote in their book to never count Nintendo out? I know this isn't directly going to boost their home console/portable fortunes, but it's going to keep Nintendo relevant.
It'll no doubt drop off like all of the other mobile crazes, but here's to hoping that Nintendo releases some awesome games/systems in the meantime.
It'll no doubt drop off like all of the other mobile crazes, but here's to hoping that Nintendo releases some awesome games/systems in the meantime.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Real_Madrid
Member
Happy for Nintendo, they needed this.
This is why mobile gaming is not an 'enemy' for traditional gaming. It gives companies even more revenue streams and brand awareness. Even Sony made a mobile division.
If the NX is cheap and has some mobile interaction like with Pokemon Go, it could be really big.
This is why mobile gaming is not an 'enemy' for traditional gaming. It gives companies even more revenue streams and brand awareness. Even Sony made a mobile division.
If the NX is cheap and has some mobile interaction like with Pokemon Go, it could be really big.
Not sure. Never own a Vita here. But i do know Pokemon Dream Radar had been used to catch pokemon before so this is not a unique thing at all.
Well it looks like they were all wrong.