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Brutally beaten and detained Palestinian boy, is American teen from Florida

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soul

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I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made. By the way, regarding that case, arrests were made just today and the suspects and being investigated by the Shin Bet. It might indeed be three right-wing Israeli's fault (it was suspected for a long time that it was a murder by other Arabs, since the boy was gay and that isn't accepted in Arab society). Those Israelis they will be treated like any other terrorist if they are found guilty. But the point is, the media already treats it like it's a sure thing and sparked a shitload of a mess in the streets.

This past weekend the Israeli-Arabs inside Israel are out in the streets in East Jerusalem, northern and southern Israel, basically everywhere, causing havoc. Throwing stones, fireworks, explosive charges, molotov cocktails, etc. Shooting from guns as well. The arabs basically destroyed the Jerusalem electric train that connected southern Jerusalem and northern Jerusalem, by pouring cement on train's path that went through their neighborhoods, flaming entire stations and using chainsaws to destroy the electric towers. The damage is worth in the millions of dollars and will take over six months to fix.

The kid that was beaten up was part of six men who, as I described above, were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails on security forces. Not just that, but one of the six held a knives. It doesn't justify excessive force, but that kind of stuff happens, and it will be investigated (the P.M. has personally guaranteed it).

Lots of Israelis were hurt and still are during the current violent riots, which the Palestinians are already calling the third Intifada. Israeli-Arab representatives in the Knesset are already supporting the riot and are pissing a lot of people off. Not to mention, Hamas shot over 120 rockets to southern Israel, including to Be'er Shevam, the largest city in southern Israel, just this past weekend. Over 300,000 Israeli's are in bomb shelters and security rooms and can hardly leave to catch a break.

The latest development that you wont hear, is the horrifying murder of 17 yo Shelly Dadon that was stabbed 17 times, repeatedly. Today it was revealed that an Israeli-Arab was caught. He was a cab driver. Yet another murder of a Jewish person on account of...his/her Jewishness. Also today, during the riots, a Jewish person was badly injured after he was stabbed by anIsraeli-Arab in Akko (northern Israel).

But still, not a word in the media. The things you'll hear usually involve Israel's retaliation in the Gaza strip, etc. But you will never hear what actually led to those retaliations. You are all being mislead and lied to.

Regarding that picture that counts the death toll of "Israeli youth" and says it's just twenty. I can just point you to search "Black March, Israel" on Google and see that it's not true, and that's just one month to account for. So stop with the bullshit.
 

Spayro

Member
I wonder how many peeps here are actually aware of what sparked this recent shitstorm.

It's a fucked up situation all around.

edit: oh k
 

werks

Banned
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made. By the way, regarding that case, arrests were made just today and the suspects and being investigated by the Shin Bet. It might indeed be three right-wing Israeli's fault (it was suspected for a long time that it was a murder by other Arabs, since the boy was gay and that isn't accepted in Arab society). Those Israelis they will be treated like any other terrorist if they are found guilty. But the point is, the media already treats it like it's a sure thing and sparked a shitload of a mess in the streets.

This past weekend the Israeli-Arabs inside Israel are out in the streets in East Jerusalem, northern and southern Israel, basically everywhere, causing havoc. Throwing stones, fireworks, explosive charges, molotov cocktails, etc. Shooting from guns as well. The arabs basically destroyed the Jerusalem electric train that connected southern Jerusalem and northern Jerusalem, by pouring cement on train's path that went through their neighborhoods, flaming entire stations and using chainsaws to destroy the electric towers. The damage is worth in the millions of dollars and will take over six months to fix.

The kid that was beaten up was part of six men who, as I described above, were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails on security forces. Not just that, but one of the six held a knives. It doesn't justify excessive force, but that kind of stuff happens, and it will be investigated (the P.M. has personally guaranteed it).

Lots of Israelis were hurt and still are during the current violent riots, which the Palestinians are already calling the third Intifada. Israeli-Arab representatives in the Knesset are already supporting the riot and are pissing a lot of people off. Not to mention, Hamas shot over 120 rockets to southern Israel, including to Be'er Shevam, the largest city in southern Israel, just this past weekend. Over 300,000 Israeli's are in bomb shelters and security rooms and can hardly leave to catch a break.

The latest development that you wont hear, is the horrifying murder of 17 yo Shelly Dadon that was stabbed 17 times, repeatedly. Today it was revealed that an Israeli-Arab was caught. He was a cab driver. Yet another murder of a Jewish person on account of...his/her Jewishness. Also today, during the riots, a Jewish person was badly injured after he was stabbed by anIsraeli-Arab in Akko (northern Israel).

But still, not a word in the media. The things you'll hear usually involve Israel's retaliation in the Gaza strip, etc. But you will never hear what actually led to those retaliations. You are all being mislead and lied to.

Regarding that picture that counts the death toll of "Israeli youth" and says it's just twenty. I can just point you to search "Black March, Israel" on Google and see that it's not true, and that's just one month to account for. So stop with the bullshit.
Must be the all powerful American Palestine Public Affairs Committee that's distorting whats really happening there and make sure billions in American dollars and technology goes to the Palestinians for defense.
 

M.D

Member
Must be the all powerful American Palestine Public Affairs Committee that's distorting whats really happening there and make sure billions in American dollars and technology goes to the Palestinians for defense.

Wait, you're not interested in actual facts? I'm truly shocked.
 

Caturro

Member
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made. By the way, regarding that case, arrests were made just today and the suspects and being investigated by the Shin Bet. It might indeed be three right-wing Israeli's fault (it was suspected for a long time that it was a murder by other Arabs, since the boy was gay and that isn't accepted in Arab society). Those Israelis they will be treated like any other terrorist if they are found guilty. But the point is, the media already treats it like it's a sure thing and sparked a shitload of a mess in the streets.

This past weekend the Israeli-Arabs inside Israel are out in the streets in East Jerusalem, northern and southern Israel, basically everywhere, causing havoc. Throwing stones, fireworks, explosive charges, molotov cocktails, etc. Shooting from guns as well. The arabs basically destroyed the Jerusalem electric train that connected southern Jerusalem and northern Jerusalem, by pouring cement on train's path that went through their neighborhoods, flaming entire stations and using chainsaws to destroy the electric towers. The damage is worth in the millions of dollars and will take over six months to fix.

The kid that was beaten up was part of six men who, as I described above, were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails on security forces. Not just that, but one of the six held a knives. It doesn't justify excessive force, but that kind of stuff happens, and it will be investigated (the P.M. has personally guaranteed it).

Lots of Israelis were hurt and still are during the current violent riots, which the Palestinians are already calling the third Intifada. Israeli-Arab representatives in the Knesset are already supporting the riot and are pissing a lot of people off. Not to mention, Hamas shot over 120 rockets to southern Israel, including to Be'er Shevam, the largest city in southern Israel, just this past weekend. Over 300,000 Israeli's are in bomb shelters and security rooms and can hardly leave to catch a break.

The latest development that you wont hear, is the horrifying murder of 17 yo Shelly Dadon that was stabbed 17 times, repeatedly. Today it was revealed that an Israeli-Arab was caught. He was a cab driver. Yet another murder of a Jewish person on account of...his/her Jewishness. Also today, during the riots, a Jewish person was badly injured after he was stabbed by anIsraeli-Arab in Akko (northern Israel).

But still, not a word in the media. The things you'll hear usually involve Israel's retaliation in the Gaza strip, etc. But you will never hear what actually led to those retaliations. You are all being mislead and lied to.

Regarding that picture that counts the death toll of "Israeli youth" and says it's just twenty. I can just point you to search "Black March, Israel" on Google and see that it's not true, and that's just one month to account for. So stop with the bullshit.

Do you have sources for all of this?

Also I'm not sure I can take you seriously thanks to your tag.
 
Correct it.

I'm on it.

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Clipjoint

Member
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made. By the way, regarding that case, arrests were made just today and the suspects and being investigated by the Shin Bet. It might indeed be three right-wing Israeli's fault (it was suspected for a long time that it was a murder by other Arabs, since the boy was gay and that isn't accepted in Arab society). Those Israelis they will be treated like any other terrorist if they are found guilty. But the point is, the media already treats it like it's a sure thing and sparked a shitload of a mess in the streets.

This past weekend the Israeli-Arabs inside Israel are out in the streets in East Jerusalem, northern and southern Israel, basically everywhere, causing havoc. Throwing stones, fireworks, explosive charges, molotov cocktails, etc. Shooting from guns as well. The arabs basically destroyed the Jerusalem electric train that connected southern Jerusalem and northern Jerusalem, by pouring cement on train's path that went through their neighborhoods, flaming entire stations and using chainsaws to destroy the electric towers. The damage is worth in the millions of dollars and will take over six months to fix.

The kid that was beaten up was part of six men who, as I described above, were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails on security forces. Not just that, but one of the six held a knives. It doesn't justify excessive force, but that kind of stuff happens, and it will be investigated (the P.M. has personally guaranteed it).

Lots of Israelis were hurt and still are during the current violent riots, which the Palestinians are already calling the third Intifada. Israeli-Arab representatives in the Knesset are already supporting the riot and are pissing a lot of people off. Not to mention, Hamas shot over 120 rockets to southern Israel, including to Be'er Shevam, the largest city in southern Israel, just this past weekend. Over 300,000 Israeli's are in bomb shelters and security rooms and can hardly leave to catch a break.

The latest development that you wont hear, is the horrifying murder of 17 yo Shelly Dadon that was stabbed 17 times, repeatedly. Today it was revealed that an Israeli-Arab was caught. He was a cab driver. Yet another murder of a Jewish person on account of...his/her Jewishness. Also today, during the riots, a Jewish person was badly injured after he was stabbed by anIsraeli-Arab in Akko (northern Israel).

But still, not a word in the media. The things you'll hear usually involve Israel's retaliation in the Gaza strip, etc. But you will never hear what actually led to those retaliations. You are all being mislead and lied to.

Regarding that picture that counts the death toll of "Israeli youth" and says it's just twenty. I can just point you to search "Black March, Israel" on Google and see that it's not true, and that's just one month to account for. So stop with the bullshit.

Spews a lot of bullshit...then says stop with the bullshit.

Nice hasbara, bro. How much do you get paid for this?
 

M.D

Member
What facts? From the crazy bible says its my land dude?

Spews a lot of bullshit...then says stop with the bullshit.

Nice hasbara, bro. How much do you get paid for this?


Clashes between Arabs and police continue into the night

Four firefighting teams were battling a fire near Har Homa that was believed to have been started started from a Molotov cocktail.

In the Palestinian village of Sharafat, near the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Gilo, some 200 protesters were rioting. A police force was working to push them back to the village.

In the Antonia neighborhood in Jerusalem's Old City, dozens of Arab youths were throwing stones and fireworks at police. A police force used crowd dispersal means.


Hundreds throwing stones at police in Israeli Arab town

After a relatively quiet morning, hundreds of protestors are clashing with police in Tamra in the Lower Galilee, with some throwing stones at officers, who managed to hold them at bay and fired stun grenades at them. The officers also prevented the protestors from blocking Highway 70.

....

Violent riots continued overnight Saturday in Jerusalem, with hundreds rioting in the capital and its environs. A bus driver and two passengers were lightly wounded near the Mount Scopus tunnel in Jerusalem, when a stone was thrown at a 174 bus between Jerusalem and Ma'ale Adumim.



In another incident, a Jewish woman was attacked by several Arabs in Jerusalem’s Old City. Her husband took out his gun and fired in the air, after which the assailants fled the scene. The woman sustained light injuries. Local police scanned the area to locate the suspects.



Dozens of residents also protested at the entrance of Ar'ara on Highway 65 in Wadi Ara on Saturday night. They hurled rocks, burned tires and threw fireworks at police. Police stopped them from marching towards the main junction junction outside the village and blocking traffic. A policeman was lightly injured from a stone thrown at him, and one protester was arrested for disturbing the peace.

Video shows Israeli police beating US-Palestinian teen

The Border Police said in response that the arrest was made during the height of the clashes in East Jerusalem.



"During the violent disturbances in the East Jerusalem area, hundreds of rioters, some of them masked, hurled firebombs, stones and fireworks at troops. As a result of this severe violence, some 15 soldiers and police officers were wounded. From a preliminary investigation into the events shown in the video, it appears that this is the arrest of six masked men, three of whom were carrying knives, and who had resisted arrest and even attacked the troops. Nonetheless, the circumstances of the case are being investigated. It is important to note that during the arrest, firebombs were thrown at the soldiers and almost caused loss of life. It is likely that without the vigilance and determination of the fighters and police officers at the scene, the incident could result in loss of life. "

Police: Shelly Dadon was murdered by her taxi driver

Israel Police said Sunday that 19-year-old Shelley Dadon, whose body was found in a car park in Migdal Ha'emek in early May, was murdered by her taxi driver, 34-year-old Hussein Yousef Khalifa, who confessed and reenacted her killing. The Shin Bet security service believes that the murder had a nationalist motive.

So which part of his post are you calling bullshit?
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
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So which part of his post are you calling bullshit?
Just based on the link you provided, one should at least be a bit less dogmatic than to claim that that woman was clearly murdered by the suspect or that he did so for nationalist reasons. Perhaps he did do it and perhaps he did do it based on some perverse ideological reason. But the evidence presented even in that news item is hardly solid enough to convict. Yet the original poster's claim was framed as if the claim were already proven

Didn't have a chance to read all the others yet.
 

nib95

Banned
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made. By the way, regarding that case, arrests were made just today and the suspects and being investigated by the Shin Bet. It might indeed be three right-wing Israeli's fault (it was suspected for a long time that it was a murder by other Arabs, since the boy was gay and that isn't accepted in Arab society). Those Israelis they will be treated like any other terrorist if they are found guilty. But the point is, the media already treats it like it's a sure thing and sparked a shitload of a mess in the streets.

This past weekend the Israeli-Arabs inside Israel are out in the streets in East Jerusalem, northern and southern Israel, basically everywhere, causing havoc. Throwing stones, fireworks, explosive charges, molotov cocktails, etc. Shooting from guns as well. The arabs basically destroyed the Jerusalem electric train that connected southern Jerusalem and northern Jerusalem, by pouring cement on train's path that went through their neighborhoods, flaming entire stations and using chainsaws to destroy the electric towers. The damage is worth in the millions of dollars and will take over six months to fix.

The kid that was beaten up was part of six men who, as I described above, were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails on security forces. Not just that, but one of the six held a knives. It doesn't justify excessive force, but that kind of stuff happens, and it will be investigated (the P.M. has personally guaranteed it).

Lots of Israelis were hurt and still are during the current violent riots, which the Palestinians are already calling the third Intifada. Israeli-Arab representatives in the Knesset are already supporting the riot and are pissing a lot of people off. Not to mention, Hamas shot over 120 rockets to southern Israel, including to Be'er Shevam, the largest city in southern Israel, just this past weekend. Over 300,000 Israeli's are in bomb shelters and security rooms and can hardly leave to catch a break.

The latest development that you wont hear, is the horrifying murder of 17 yo Shelly Dadon that was stabbed 17 times, repeatedly. Today it was revealed that an Israeli-Arab was caught. He was a cab driver. Yet another murder of a Jewish person on account of...his/her Jewishness. Also today, during the riots, a Jewish person was badly injured after he was stabbed by anIsraeli-Arab in Akko (northern Israel).

But still, not a word in the media. The things you'll hear usually involve Israel's retaliation in the Gaza strip, etc. But you will never hear what actually led to those retaliations. You are all being mislead and lied to.

Regarding that picture that counts the death toll of "Israeli youth" and says it's just twenty. I can just point you to search "Black March, Israel" on Google and see that it's not true, and that's just one month to account for. So stop with the bullshit.

You're referencing the Israeli police account of the story, which also the claimed the video was edited and skewed. The fact of the matter is, the boy was not resisting in any way, and was handcuffed when they were brutally beating him, that should tell you everything you need to know about the kind of despicable people we're dealing with her.

With respect to Sheldon's murder, this was a heinous murder that took place in May and had a gag order placed on the investigation (much like was placed on the autopsy results of the Palestinian boy burned alive) till today. The motives for the murder are not yet conclusive, though officials believe it to be terror related, actual evidence pointing to such a motive is inconclusive as of now.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.603356

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.590125

According to police, the motive remains inconclusive but security officials say they view the murder as an act of terror.

The three jailed suspects were initially forbidden from meeting with their lawyers, who were appointed on their behalf by the public defender, though it was not clear if the motive was nationalist or criminal. Both Hamid Khalifa and I'saf were released and only Hussein remained under arrest.

In addition to murder, the three were accused of illegal assembly, a security offense. Because of the security angle, the Shin Bet is involved in the investigation, allowing the police to withhold lawyer privileges from the suspect for 10 days and the others for eight days. He was remanded another week on Thursday. Israeli law permits denying a security detainee from meeting with a lawyer for 10 days initially and up to 21 days with court approval.

Khalifa's lawyer, Ahmad Raslan, says his client was beaten and denied sleep by his interrogators. The lawyer says Khalifa supplied information that seemed to be details only the murderer would know, but that his interrogators led him to this information with various hints.

The murder of Shelly Dadon of Afula is still being investigated as either a nationalist or criminal murder, with no indications tilting the probe decisively in either direction, police and Shin Bet security service said Sunday.


The other stabbing doesn't appear to be related to such motives at all.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.588557

Meanwhile, earlier on Thursday a woman in her 30s was found dead in her home in the southern city of Ashkelon with stab wounds on her body. Police arrested a man in his 30s – apparently her lover – as the chief suspect.

Preliminary investigation indicates that the murder in Ashkelon was committed after the couple got into an argument while both were drunk. Two other men and one woman, who were in the victim’s home at the time of the murder, have also been arrested. Police said the victim had not filed any complaints of domestic violence.
 

soul

Member
Do you have sources for all of this?

Also I'm not sure I can take you seriously thanks to your tag.

Well, I'll post some pictures from recent events in here. All pictures are from 4th of July and above until this very minute. It's important to note there were many more events beforehand and during that time (but I just don't have pictures/videos), that includes over 120 rockets fired on southern Israel. I hope you realize how much info is not reported in the international media.

July 3
Missiles fired overrnight between Jul 2 to Jul 3. A video of the scary moments before the rockets hit. (I'm sorry, there's no other source for this video, just press play)

July 3
Molotov cocktail thrown to Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem and starts a fire. Video.

July 3
Rocks thrown on a bus while driving. picture. The driver was taken to the hospital and the passengers moved to a difference bus.

July 3
Another bus hit by rocks. A small child was taken to the hospital. picture

July 4
Thai/foreign workers in the field film how it sounds when missiles are fired on southern Israel. Iron Dome does not sound alerts when mortar shells are fired on close territories to Gaza (you less than 10 seconds to hide when you hear a rocket was fired).

July 4
Firing fireworks on two security men. video.

July 4
Yet another bus hit by rocks on road 65. one man easily injured. picture.

July 4
Two Israelis were rescued by the I.D.F. after they mistakenly drove to an Israeli-Arab village. They were almost lynched but managed to escape with the help of an Arab village leader. picture of their car after the events.

July 4
Random Arab 'innocent' protesters.

July 4
Picture of the knife captured by the security on the train. third one since the morning.

July 4
The streets of Eat Jerusalem after a day of riots. In the short video you can see a Magav officer draining a Molotov cocktail thrown at the forces.

July 4
Yet another rocket shot at southern Israel, missing a house by a few inches.

July 4
Kids at first day of summer vacation in the pool surprised at rocket attack. Red Siren is heard on the background.

July 4
Israeli-Arab cutting off the Jerusalem electric train using a chainsaw.
More from the electric train riot:
- Setting the rails on fire, destroying the station, messing up the streets, tearing everything apart, the morning after.

July 3
Starting a fire in the streets

July 4
Protesters burn wheels and throw them on the road in order to slow down vehicles and bomber them with rocks. This picture is from Arab-Israeli town Taybeh.

July 5
Nazareth burns: One, two, three, four

July 5
Taybeh riots one, two, three, four

July 5
Setting an I.D.F. vehicle on fire

July 5
shots fired between I.D.F and terrorists in the middle of the street. Nothing actually caught on tape but you can hear it all.

July 5
a vehicle on fire in Qualanswa

July 5
Hamas threatens Israel "a new dawn has come" (שחר חדש). Video showing the M75 rockets that hit Tel-Aviv & Rishon Le-Zion in the last conflict.
July 5
Random vehicle hit by rocks

July 5
Rockets show down by Iron Dome in Ashkelon.
A video of the same event.

July 5
More random protesters

July 6
Another bus hit by rocks. Two civilians taken to the hospital.
A video taken inside moments after the hit.

July 6
Riots in Jerusalem

July 6
Vehicles burned after Arabs throw Molotov cocktails.

July 6
Video shows another molotov cocktail thrown at Israeli property

July 6
Another two civilians hurt by rocks and taken to the hospital. their car after the event.

July 6
Killer of 17 yo Shelly Dadon caught.

There's more, a lot more. But I'm honestly exhausted collecting everything and linking. I hope this is enough to prove my point.
 

Clipjoint

Member
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So which part of his post are you calling bullshit?

All of it. Tarek Khdair had his trial, and he wasn't charged with any crimes. No one accused him of throwing rocks or Molotov cocktails. He said he was just watching, and there was no dispute of his account. There just so happened to be representatives from the US Consulate there, so luckily the Israelis couldn't turn it into their usual kangaroo court.

There's also the part where he claimed the Muhammad Khdair was killed for being gay - a disgusting lie perpetuated by the Israeli police to cover for the actions of the lynch mob. Spreading this type of filth should be a banworthy offense, IMO. It's nothing less than outright hate speech.

Oh and there's also the part where he accuses the media of siding with the Palestinian narrative over the Israeli narrative, which is just so absurd it doesn't merit debate.

But keep quoting ynetnews for affirmation, I'm sure it makes you feel better about the hate in your heart that it takes to justify a hate crime.
 

Jackpot

Banned
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.

It took the U.S. government over two weeks to condemn the kidnap and murder of the three Israeli youth. Under an hour to condemn the suspected murder and killing of the Palestinian youth, way before arrests were even made.

That's the US for you, always rooting for those 'Palestinians'.

Why is that in quotations btw? Are they fictional to you?
 

Clipjoint

Member
There's more, a lot more. But I'm honestly exhausted collecting everything and linking. I hope this is enough to prove my point.

Exhausted? Everything you posted was from one hasbara Facebook page. Is copy/pasting that exhausting these days? Plus this is your job, you're just doing what you get paid to do. They're clearly not getting their money's worth, but not everyone can be good at what they do.
 

soul

Member
Exhausted? Everything you posted was from one hasbara Facebook page. Is copy/pasting that exhausting these days? Plus this is your job, you're just doing what you get paid to do. They're clearly not getting their money's worth, but not everyone can be good at what they do.

I love it when you post against the poster and not against what's posted. Plus, 0404 is a news website.
I'll keep everyone updated on what's up

Israel Rocket Watch
Current time in Israel - 22:21

Latest rocket launch - 21:55 - rockets landed in open fields next to Sderot.
(source for whoever wants it)
 

nib95

Banned
All of it. Tarek Khdair had his trial, and he wasn't charged with any crimes. No one accused him of throwing rocks or Molotov cocktails. He said he was just watching, and there was no dispute of his account. There just so happened to be representatives from the US Consulate there, so luckily the Israelis couldn't turn it into their usual kangaroo court.

There's also the part where he claimed the Muhammad Khdair was killed for being gay - a disgusting lie perpetuated by the Israeli police to cover for the actions of the lynch mob. Spreading this type of filth should be a banworthy offense, IMO. It's nothing less than outright hate speech.

Oh and there's also the part where he accuses the media of siding with the Palestinian narrative over the Israeli narrative, which is just so absurd it doesn't merit debate.

But keep quoting ynetnews for affirmation, I'm sure it makes you feel better about the hate in your heart that it takes to justify a hate crime.

Pretty much this.
 

MacNille

Banned
Exhausted? Everything you posted was from one hasbara Facebook page. Is copy/pasting that exhausting these days? Plus this is your job, you're just doing what you get paid to do. They're clearly not getting their money's worth, but not everyone can be good at what they do.

Are you accusing him of being a JIDF? What is this, 4chan level of fucking bullshit? At least he has made more things for this thread then what you have done.
 

Clipjoint

Member
I love it when you post against the poster and not against what's posted. Plus, 0404 is a news website.

I post against the poster when the poster is spreading hate speech and what's being posted is trash. What you call "news" the rest of us in the real world call hasbara. Stop defending violence, stop defending Apartheid. Once you accept that Israelis are not superior to Palestinians, we can have a normal discussion.
 

Clipjoint

Member
Are you accusing him of being a JIDF? What is this, 4chan level of fucking bullshit? At least he has made more things for this thread then what you have done.

Yes I'm accusing him of being JIDF. And I'm actually being generous by assuming he's being paid to spread that filth. If he's doing it for free of his own accord, then he's more reprehensible than I thought. All he's done in this thread so far is spread lies, hate, and propaganda. I'm not going to seriously debate hate-mongering of any sort.
 

soul

Member
I post against the poster when the poster is spreading hate speech and what's being posted is trash. What you call "news" the rest of us in the real world call hasbara. Stop defending violence, stop defending Apartheid. Once you accept that Israelis are not superior to Palestinians, we can have a normal discussion.

Since when is posting news, pictures and videos of what's happening in Israel considered Hasbara? That's not trash to me. I experience the sirens on a daily basis. Plus, there is no apartheid in Israel. Please read what Apartheid is. What happens in Israel has nothing that involves racial segregation.
 
Plenty of americans get killed, beaten/tortured abroad without the us mass media making a big deal out of it, so i will be surprised if this actually is
 

Vast.

Banned
I love it when the media always posts when something happens to the 'Palestinians' but never post anything regarding Israelis. It's so biased it's funny.
Yeah, that's it... there's a pro-Palestenian, anti-Israeli bias by the western media.

I don't have big enough eyes to roll.

Reminds of what I watched an Israeli journalist, Gideon Levy saying "History has witnessed worse and more brutal occupiers than the Israelis. But I've never heard of an occupation that believes it is the victim. And the only victim."
 

soul

Member
Israel Rocket Watch
Missiles launched to Ashkelon.
updates asap

edit: landed in open fields next to the city.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
Well, I'll post some pictures from recent events in here. All pictures are from 4th of July and above until this very minute. It's important to note there were many more events beforehand and during that time (but I just don't have pictures/videos), that includes over 120 rockets fired on southern Israel. I hope you realize how much info is not reported in the international media.

July 3
Missiles fired overrnight between Jul 2 to Jul 3. A video of the scary moments before the rockets hit. (I'm sorry, there's no other source for this video, just press play)

July 3
Molotov cocktail thrown to Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem and starts a fire. Video.

July 3
Rocks thrown on a bus while driving. picture. The driver was taken to the hospital and the passengers moved to a difference bus.

July 3
Another bus hit by rocks. A small child was taken to the hospital. picture

July 4
Thai/foreign workers in the field film how it sounds when missiles are fired on southern Israel. Iron Dome does not sound alerts when mortar shells are fired on close territories to Gaza (you less than 10 seconds to hide when you hear a rocket was fired).

July 4
Firing fireworks on two security men. video.

July 4
Yet another bus hit by rocks on road 65. one man easily injured. picture.

July 4
Two Israelis were rescued by the I.D.F. after they mistakenly drove to an Israeli-Arab village. They were almost lynched but managed to escape with the help of an Arab village leader. picture of their car after the events.

July 4
Random Arab 'innocent' protesters.

July 4
Picture of the knife captured by the security on the train. third one since the morning.

July 4
The streets of Eat Jerusalem after a day of riots. In the short video you can see a Magav officer draining a Molotov cocktail thrown at the forces.

July 4
Yet another rocket shot at southern Israel, missing a house by a few inches.

July 4
Kids at first day of summer vacation in the pool surprised at rocket attack. Red Siren is heard on the background.

July 4
Israeli-Arab cutting off the Jerusalem electric train using a chainsaw.
More from the electric train riot:
- Setting the rails on fire, destroying the station, messing up the streets, tearing everything apart, the morning after.

July 3
Starting a fire in the streets

July 4
Protesters burn wheels and throw them on the road in order to slow down vehicles and bomber them with rocks. This picture is from Arab-Israeli town Taybeh.

July 5
Nazareth burns: One, two, three, four

July 5
Taybeh riots one, two, three, four

July 5
Setting an I.D.F. vehicle on fire

July 5
shots fired between I.D.F and terrorists in the middle of the street. Nothing actually caught on tape but you can hear it all.

July 5
a vehicle on fire in Qualanswa

July 5
Hamas threatens Israel "a new dawn has come" (שחר חדש). Video showing the M75 rockets that hit Tel-Aviv & Rishon Le-Zion in the last conflict.
July 5
Random vehicle hit by rocks

July 5
Rockets show down by Iron Dome in Ashkelon.
A video of the same event.

July 5
More random protesters

July 6
Another bus hit by rocks. Two civilians taken to the hospital.
A video taken inside moments after the hit.

July 6
Riots in Jerusalem

July 6
Vehicles burned after Arabs throw Molotov cocktails.

July 6
Video shows another molotov cocktail thrown at Israeli property

July 6
Another two civilians hurt by rocks and taken to the hospital. their car after the event.

July 6
Killer of 17 yo Shelly Dadon caught.

There's more, a lot more. But I'm honestly exhausted collecting everything and linking. I hope this is enough to prove my point.

The only thing those pictures show are things that could happen anywhere in the world. There is nothing at all to put them into context, nor any indication of who the source of the thing happening there is. (At least all of the ones I have clicked, like "MISSILES MISS A HOUSE!!!111!!! -> Video of guys talking near a house.)

I can't believe you posted that shit. Seriously, you can't call bullshit on everyone and then post bullshit yourself.

EDIT:

I mean look at this:

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So some guys in some kind of protest with Palestinian flags. OH WAIT! There is a picture of something destroyed NEXT to their picture. That means they DID IT!!

Seriously?? This is for real?
 

soul

Member
The only thing those pictures show are things that could happen anywhere in the world. There is nothing at all to put them into context, nor any indication of who the source of the thing happening there is. (At least all of the ones I have clicked, like "MISSILES MISS A HOUSE!!!111!!! -> Video of guys talking near a house.)

I can't believe you posted that shit. Seriously, you can't call bullshit on everyone and then post bullshit yourself.

Yup, it could happen anywhere in the world. But if you are going to say "it could happen anywhere", I'd expect you to at least check to validate my post before posting "it is bullshit". You can check Israeli news websites yourself. The biggest news website in Israel available in English is Ynet.


I mean look at this:

10391458_724932887579495_818586887673133596_n.jpg


So some guys in some kind of protest with Palestinian flags. OH WAIT! There is a picture of something destroyed NEXT to their picture. That means they DID IT!!

Seriously?? This is for real

Actually, regarding this, there are further pictures that validate my claim. Please check the other electric train pictures. The picture on the lower right is from the same area.
 

Clipjoint

Member
Wow, it's ironic how Israel turned out given the history of it's creation.

It's not, actually. Israel's creation was steeped in the same violence and racism that we're witnessing today. This is Israel's true face as it's always been, behind the facade of "making the desert bloom."
 

Fuzzery

Member
Barbaric. If these practices are real, the UN needs to go in and investigate/condemn Israel for human rights violations
 

Xyrmellon

Member
Yes I'm accusing him of being JIDF. And I'm actually being generous by assuming he's being paid to spread that filth. If he's doing it for free of his own accord, then he's more reprehensible than I thought. All he's done in this thread so far is spread lies, hate, and propaganda. I'm not going to seriously debate hate-mongering of any sort.

Wow....look in the mirror.
 
Barbaric. If these practices are real, the UN needs to go in and investigate/condemn Israel for human rights violations
Its one of the most sensitive issues in the World that has a global scale to it.
6 June 2013 – A United Nations independent expert today drew attention to the human rights violations in the occupied Palestinian territory and stressed that attempts to distort the facts cannot mask the reality that Israel’s actions are endangering Palestinians’ lives every day.

“Neither Israel nor its proxies can justify the facts on the ground in occupied Palestine,” Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories, Richard Falk, said, “so they distract, distort and defame to allow the violations to go on.”
[...]
Turning to the situation in Gaza, Mr. Falk recalled that, in mid-June, Palestinians in Gaza will enter the seventh year of living under Israel’s blockade.

“Israel’s blockade is suffocating Palestinians in Gaza, with an incredible 70 per cent of the population dependent on international aid for survival and 90 per cent of the water unfit for human consumption,” he said. “These violations deprive Palestinians of hope and make a mockery of revived peace negotiations.”

In his latest report, Mr. Falk describes the situation in Gaza during his visit in December. He is scheduled to present his findings to the UN Human Rights Council on 10 June.

Independent experts, or special rapporteurs, are appointed by the Geneva-based Council to examine and report back on a country situation or a specific human rights theme. The positions are honorary and the experts are not UN staff, nor are they paid for their work.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45108
The UN has monitoring missions on the ground too.
UNTSO personnel have also been available at short notice to form the nucleus of some other peacekeeping operations worldwide. The availability of UNTSO's military observers for almost immediate deployment after the Security Council had acted to create a new operation has been an enormous contributory factor to the success of those operations.
In the Middle East, groups of UNTSO military observers are today attached to the peacekeeping forces in the area: the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) in the Golan Heights and the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL). A group of observers remains in Sinai to maintain a United Nations presence in that peninsula. Currently, UNTSO maintains its headquarters in Jerusalem with its liaison offices in Beirut (Lebanon), Ismailia (Egypt) and Damascus (Syria).
http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/untso/background.shtml
and there has been a statement:
2 July 2014 – Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the United Nations Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process have both condemned the murder of a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem, and called on both Israelis and Palestinians to refrain from exacerbating an already tense situation.
[...]
Mr. Ban, in a statement issued by his spokesperson, described the murder of the Palestinian teenager as a “despicable act” and called for the perpetrators to be promptly brought to justice.
[...]
The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) also strongly condemned the killing of the Palestinian boy, as well as the recent murder of the three Israeli teenagers.

“At the same time, we urge maximum restraint from all parties to prevent the situation from deteriorating further,” UNRWA spokesperson Chris Gunness said in a statement. “We call for strict compliance with international law by all relevant actors to avoid further loss of life, injuries and suffering.”

Recalling that collective punishment is illegal under international law, UNRWA called on the Israeli authorities to refrain from punishing individuals for offences they themselves have not personally committed.

The agency stressed that the human impact on all sides caused by the events of the last three weeks is “grave.” From 13 June to 1 July, seven Palestinians have been killed, including five registered refugees, while almost 200 have been injured.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48185
 

truly101

I got grudge sucked!
Wow, it's ironic how Israel turned out given the history of it's creation.

Not really. They've been occupied or kicked out of Israel by about every major army thats come their way. Now they put their faith in racism, apartheid, zionism and militaristic gentrification instead of the invisible sky wizard.

Its hard to see how the situation there isn't every bit as bad as South Africa, if not worse. But the western media views the Islamic middle east the way people view a pitbull, especially post 9/11.
 

KingK

Member
When are we going to finally apply sanctions on Israel? That's really the only thing that could get them to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith and to stop their heavy handed tactics. Right now there is literally no pressure, no incentive, for Israel to stop building settlements in the West Bank and killing or displacing Palestinians. If nobody in the West does anything to change Israel's geopolitical calculus, they're just going to keep doing what they're doing until there is no Palestine left to become a state and there's a solid Jewish demographic majority in both Israel and Palestine. That's been the government's goal for decades.
 
When are we going to finally apply sanctions on Israel? That's really the only thing that could get them to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith and to stop their heavy handed tactics. Right now there is literally no pressure, no incentive, for Israel to stop building settlements in the West Bank and killing or displacing Palestinians. If nobody in the West does anything to change Israel's geopolitical calculus, they're just going to keep doing what they're doing until there is no Palestine left to become a state and there's a solid Jewish demographic majority in both Israel and Palestine. That's been the government's goal for decades.

Impossible. US Congress is AIPAC prostitutes first and foremost.

edit:
Among the best-known critical works about AIPAC is The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, by University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer and Harvard University Kennedy School of Government professor Stephen Walt. In the working paper and resulting book they accuse AIPAC of being "the most powerful and best known" component of a larger pro-Israel lobby that distorts American foreign policy. They write:

AIPAC's success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. ... AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the myriad pro-Israel PACs. Those seen as hostile to Israel, on the other hand, can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to their political opponents. ... The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.
 
When are we going to finally apply sanctions on Israel? That's really the only thing that could get them to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith and to stop their heavy handed tactics. Right now there is literally no pressure, no incentive, for Israel to stop building settlements in the West Bank and killing or displacing Palestinians. If nobody in the West does anything to change Israel's geopolitical calculus, they're just going to keep doing what they're doing until there is no Palestine left to become a state and there's a solid Jewish demographic majority in both Israel and Palestine. That's been the government's goal for decades.

We (the US) directly fund Israeli operations. Fat chance we'll ever sanction a damn thing.
 
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