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Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War accused of becoming a "Play on PlayStation to win game" after latest PS exclusives revealed = Eurogamer

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Activision and Sony have been heavily criticised by Call of Duty fans over "anti-consumer" Black Ops Cold War PlayStation exclusivity.

Yesterday it emerged that PlayStation 4 and 5 players of Treyarch and Raven's first-person shooter Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War get two extra create a class slots, extra tier skips, extra weapon XP and exclusive double XP events.

More here.


Personally I'm always against the timed exclusive content. But hate it or love it, in terms of driving a COD player to your specific platform, this COD timed exclusivity works.
 
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Matt_Fox

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I play COD a lot and I've never used all the 'create a class' loadout slots. Having two more is an absolute nothing.

I'd focus on the PS5 having an extra zombies mode for multi-player maps, I think that's the more significant bonus - could be a lot of fun in co-op with a mate.
 

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Have 10 classes in mw and I barely make use of 5. People will cry over anything.
You've gotta branch out a bit, I have all 10 used up and switch in random shit all the time..

Tbh it's kinda bullshit having this extra stuff on-top of excluding gametypes and whatnot, people screeched Xbox kept content for a month and those same people are probably fine with yearly locked content and exclusives in game rewards that push progression..
 
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Matt_Fox

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You've gotta branch out a bit, I have all 10 used up and switch in random shit all the time..

I can understand having maybe 4-5 loadouts; an assault rifle (main), a shotgun (for close quarters maps), a sniper (for open maps), and maybe an SMG for speedy runs.

How can you have 10?
 

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You've gotta branch out a bit, I have all 10 used up and switch in random shit all the time..

Tbh it's kinda bullshit having this extra stuff on-top of excluding gametypes and whatnot, people screeched Xbox kept content for a month and those same people are probably fine with yearly locked content and exclusives in game rewards that push progression..


I have an AR, SMG, and shotgun class, and 2 that i mess around with. I only play warzone unless theres shoot the ship, so I don't need to swap much.
 
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Eurogamer campaign against Sony continues. Maybe they would feel ok with Sony simply buying Call of Duty? Hmm

They're indirectly marketing it. The kids at school will just notice it even more - and gravitate to the preferred platform like in the X360 days. Only adult gamers grandstand.
 
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I can understand having maybe 4-5 loadouts; an assault rifle (main), a shotgun (for close quarters maps), a sniper (for open maps), and maybe an SMG for speedy runs.

How can you have 10?
Tbh I don't know I just use unconventional weapon/Loadout builds all the time I like to experiment and once I find a build I keep it for awhile until I start to get bored of the guns and then reshuffle.
 
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I think Activision is fucking trash but come on it's a hell of a stretch to call it some sort of "P2W" type of deal.
 
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I have an AR, SMG, and shotgun class, and 2 that i mess around with. I only play warzone unless theres shoot the ship, so I don't need to swap much.
Warzone I found myself only playing the one Loadout (sniper W/ assault rifle secondary) so I can see why you wouldn't need to many.
 
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Arun1910

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Hardly PTW. 25% extra weapon XP isn't a lot more than normal and one extra day of double XP a month isn't anything to cry over either.
 

IDappa

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I think Activision is fucking trash but come on it's a hell of a stretch to call it some sort of "P2W" type of deal.
Usually getting access to weapons faster than others is considered pay to win in other games.. The biggest thing to me is that they are aggressively locking everything they can down and hate the double standard people have with such things.. I play cod on the Xbox the majority of time and think PlayStation users probably need the extra advantage anyway :messenger_beaming:..
 

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Things like this shouldnt be allowed in multiplayer games full stop. And i dont mean just this specific Sony paid stuff, i just mean paying for Xtra XP, or xtra xp per kill, per win, depending what system your on, or how much you have paid extra, if you have bought the 'Gold' edition, etc.
Multiplayer games should be a level playing field for everyone, or whats the point?
 
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Warzone I found myself only playing the one Loadout (sniper W/ assault rifle secondary) so I can see why you wouldn't need to many.


Yea i mostly run my ak47 class on warzone. If i feel like messing around, I'll run my smg and katanas lol.
 
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Yea i mostly run my ak47 class on warzone. If i feel like messing around, I'll run my smg and katanas lol.
It's all you really need tbh, you don't want to be running around with a new untested Loadout and suffer the load time back to the menu lol.. Reminds me I used to have a javelin Loadout which was a great fuck around set up.
 
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It's all you really need tbh, you don't want to be running around with a new untested Loadout and suffer the load time back to the menu lol.. Reminds me I used to have a javelin Loadout which was a great fuck around set up.

Yea, rpg is usually my secondary. Its made for some good kills. And flares dont disrupt.
 
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Yea, rpg is usually my secondary. Its made for some good kills. And flares dont disrupt.
Nothing more satisfying than launching a javelin next to somebody's foot a good distance away and watching it come down on-top of them haha.. it's also good to finish off squad mates sniper downs.
 
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Nothing more satisfying than launching a javelin next to somebody's foot a good distance away and watching it come down on-top of them haha.. it's also good to finish off squad mates sniper downs.


Its great, especially listening to them screaming when they die lmao. Gotta quad on a jeep trying to run me over and they were pretty upset 🤣🤣.
 
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Pretty slimy move that ps only gamers get extra in game benefits. I don't like this kind of trend
 

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Its great, especially listening to them screaming when they die lmao. Gotta quad on a jeep trying to run me over and they were pretty upset 🤣🤣.
People don't expect it, majority of player run a sniper with overkill so they are always surprised by the dude running a ticket launcher lol..
 
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GermanZepp

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Things like this shouldnt be allowed in multiplayer games full stop. And i dont mean just this specific Sony paid stuff, i just mean paying for Xtra XP, or xtra xp per kill, per win, depending what system your on, or how much you have paid extra, if you have bought the 'Gold' edition, etc.
Multiplayer games should be a level playing field for everyone, or whats the point?

This is very easy stuart, people need to stop buying and supporting multiplayer games that favors players that spend money on microtransactions and pre order benefits.

I remember when I stopped playing GoW ascension and tlou mp in ps3 cause this issues. I moved to other games.
 

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It’s even less of an issue now that you can adjust classes anytime during matches if you need to counter other perks, equipment, or streaks.
 

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I mean it's NEARING that potentially, but it's not there yet, that's a bit overdramatic. Yeah, the PS players are getting some leverage, but it's nothing that's going to allow them to win faster per se. They'll just have extra slots, and the ability to unlock things a bit faster depending on how good they are.

Now, if in the future this advances to exclusive guns, perks, killstreaks, etc. Then it will be shitty. But I hope it doesn't get to that point.
 

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Its a smart business move but it's beyond petty. Activision is laughing all the way to the bank.
 
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🤣🤣 such a silly hilarious arrangement between Sony and Activision when Microsoft is making power moves like buying off Bethesda. Will not be surprised if Microsoft says to hell with Sony nonsense on Sony COD marketing and just buys off activision.
 
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The raw AMD fury of my PC computer can dim the lights in the house and charge a Tesla in 10 minutes.

There is no scientific method available to measure the sensitivity of my mouse, I've wired it straight into my cortex, if the power were to go out, I'd die.

C'mon, Sony peasants, welcome to the Thunderdome. :messenger_ogre:

Crossplay is awesome.
 
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There are going to be people who buy the game weeks and months after launch who start completely fresh with no attachments or loadout slots and at level 1. The "disadvantage" means nothing. It's another nontroversy.
That's true, you know how kids are though (probably the bulk of the cod audience), if you don't have the uber super day -5 edition your friends are going to make fun of you.
 

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Sony being anti consumer? Never heard that before.

Fuck this game. Fuck the political agenda. Fuck Sony. I'm done after modern warfare 2019.
 

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If you need this stuff so much just buy the PS version = problem solved
 
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