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[OccamsBlender]

I have a 3DS, ugh, it hurts the eyes. And hands. I'm OK playing Phoenix Wright on it and all but MH? And with that clunky unbalanced extra slide pad?

Looking at the numbers, congrats Capcom, you're slowly chipping away at the crowd hoping you'll bring MH back to Sony platforms. I'd love a Vita version given how the Vita's got 2 nicely placed analog sticks and what have you...

I guess Capcom is still butthurt over Sony not patching US Adhoc party to accommodate MH3HD?

 

[Immaculate]

3DS is at 13 Million in Japan not 12m
by the end of September it should be closer to 15m

not sure why Capcom hopes to sell 4m here with Pokemon coming so soon after they needed a couple of months to buffer

huh? the sales age thread says the 3DS has a (near) 12 million LTD in Japan

 

[Zenaku]

I have a 3DS, ugh, it hurts the eyes. And hands. I'm OK playing Phoenix Wright on it and all but MH? And with that clunky unbalanced extra slide pad?

Looking at the numbers, congrats Capcom, you're slowly chipping away at the crowd hoping you'll bring MH back to Sony platforms. I'd love a Vita version given how the Vita's got 2 nicely placed analog sticks and what have you...

I guess Capcom is still butthurt over Sony not patching US Adhoc party to accommodate MH3HD?

I use a slide pad and beyond underwater combat have never used the extra stick; controlling the camera with the shoulder buttons while you attack/dodge with the face buttons is great, and not possible on Vita. I don't know why people are so fixated on the Vitas sticks when there's a more superior method of camera control available.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

huh? the sales age thread says the 3DS has a (near) 12 million LTD in Japan

ah shit really I was expecting 13m oh well next month for sure

 

[Akainu]

Well that makes no sense as 3rd broke records and got ported to ps3 and the only reason it isn't in the west is because of sony's dumb rules. There will be another version at some point, whether it's on wiiu or ps4 who knows

That remaster seemed like a waste of time. If capcom whoever couldn't have at least put in online I wouldn't have allowed it either.

 

[Mael]

I swear, Mael. One of these days me 'n' you are going to get into a sweaty, shirtless fist fight.

I'm sorry but it is.
I don't know how they manufactured my psp3000 but I swear they used 'loading times' for the outer shell.
It has a bad battery life and most game discs are also made of the fabled material 'loading times'.
By the time it takes to launch a game I'm already halfway through where I mean to go....And I'm talking train trips!
It's the worst handheld I have!
I love it but come on if the games I have weren't the ones I'd take with me with unlimited battery on a desert island I would have pawned it to GAME already!
Worst part?
I tried the vita demo stations....They're STILL using the fabled 'loading times' material for their handheld! WTF SONY!

 

[phosphor112]

Perhaps those two things are linked.

Made me chuckle.

Seriously though, those textures are hilariously bad even for a 3DS. lol.

 

[_Clash_]

Someone inform me, because I can not for the life of my comprehend the delay between the japan and EU/NA releases for monster hunter titles.

Would have to be 5,000 words to translate. take a week.

Am i missing something?

nintendo megaton this for a christmas Wii U release.


thanks.

 

[clay_ghost]

I'm sorry but it is.
I don't know how they manufactured my psp3000 but I swear they used 'loading times' for the outer shell.
It has a bad battery life and most game discs are also made of the fabled material 'loading times'.
By the time it takes to launch a game I'm already halfway through where I mean to go....And I'm talking train trips!
It's the worst handheld I have!
I love it but come on if the games I have weren't the ones I'd take with me with unlimited battery on a desert island I would have pawned it to GAME already!
Worst part?
I tried the vita demo stations....They're STILL using the fabled 'loading times' material for their handheld! WTF SONY!

The loading time for vita improved a lot for most of the games. Psp loading time is good if you mod and force every game to over clock LOL

Also help if you rip your umd or download from psn.

psp and Wii have the easiest way to rip game too.

I miss a lot of my psp games that my vita can't play :'( .

 

[Haunted]

I'll buy the WiiU version once it's out.

 

[Fistwell]

Someone inform me, because I can not for the life of my comprehend the delay between the japan and EU/NA releases for monster hunter titles.

Would have to be 5,000 words to translate. take a week.

Am i missing something?

Beats me. Capcom don't care bout Western people?

 

[Mael]

Someone inform me, because I can not for the life of my comprehend the delay between the japan and EU/NA releases for monster hunter titles.

Would have to be 5,000 words to translate. take a week.

Am i missing something?

nintendo megaton this for a christmas Wii U release.


thanks.

there's only so many games they can translate at the same time.
We're getting Pkmn day one so I guess it takes ultra high priority over everything else.
Then there's cost of manufacturing the copies and the cost probably proved too high.
Since it's not Capcom handling the localisation the games needs to be done 1rst.
Not 2 way around it, if Capcom was doing the localisation we would probably not have waited that much if they were as serious as Nintendo in making it a success here.

The loading time for vita improved a lot for most of the games. Psp loading time is good if you mod and force every game to over clock LOL

Also help if you rip your umd or download from psn.

psp and Wii have the easiest way to rip game too.

I miss a lot of my psp games that my vita can't play :'( .

Yesh, I'm not modding my psp, I don't have time for that and I use the space on the mem sticks for something else than putting games on it.
KH is overclocked and by god it's great that way!
And really I NEED Type-0!

 

[Mael]

Crap dbl post!

 

[test_account]

Lol yeah those extra 100,000 vita copies sold will really shatter records

I think the sales would be bigger than that. Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD for PS3 sold over 400k, and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for WiiU sold a few hundred thousand as well. Releasing it on more than one platform is not really a bad idea if they want to break sales record for a game (well, it on if Capcom about a record for one version only or the game in general though). It doesnt have to be released at the same time of course (in that case, the Vita version would have sold much more than 100k).

 

[FreedomFighter]

you want to sell 2.5m MH4 it is possible with Pokem

Monster Hunter is a time sink. So is Pokemon you can only play one and go deep into it

So in other words, what you're saying is, due to the segment of gamers that enjoy both Pokemon AND Monster Hunter, both games will have a exceptional legs.

I was in doubt in the beginning, but now I think both titles will mutually benefit each other. The adage "rising tides lift all boats" actually made sense in the context of DS and 3DS releases.

For example, when MH4 releases, watch a bunch of 3DS software titles have a "+#%" by their listing in the software charts. This happens a lot, as people go to the stores to pick up the new hottest games end up buying other 3DS games. Pokemon will do the same for MH4 and both will have crazy legs going through the holiday season.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I think the sales would be bigger than that. Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD for PS3 sold over 400k, and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for WiiU sold a few hundred thousand as well. Releasing it on more than one platform is not really a bad idea if they want to break sales record for a game (well, it on if Capcom about a record for one version only or the game in general though). It doesnt have to be released at the same time of course (in that case, the Vita version would have sold much more than 100k).

Not to say you're wrong, but Capcom will never release this game on Vita while the 3DS version still has sales potential.

Simply put, releasing this on Vita is detrimental to the 3DS versions' success. Capcom wants gamers to buy and play together on the same platform. Releasing a Vita version dilutes that, as instead of just jumping in with people they get into a "which version did you get?" comparison.

Once Capcom is satisfied that 3DS has exhausted its community sales potential, then and only then will they consider a Vita version, and even then that's only if they think a port is worth it in the first place, which I doubt.

 

[test_account]

Not to say you're wrong, but Capcom will never release this game on Vita while the 3DS version still has sales potential.

Simply put, releasing this on Vita is detrimental to the 3DS versions' success. Capcom wants gamers to buy and play together on the same platform. Releasing a Vita version dilutes that, as instead of just jumping in with people they get into a "which version did you get?" comparison.

Once Capcom is satisfied that 3DS has exhausted its community sales potential, then and only then will they consider a Vita version, and even then that's only if they think a port is worth it in the first place, which I doubt.

Yeah, its possible that Capcom sees it this way. Personally i dont expect to see any Vita version, especially not anytime soon. I just wanted to say that a release on another platform (edit: it could be any platform really, not just the Vita) at a later time could bring in more than 100k in sales

 

[Mael]

Yeah, its possible that Capcom sees it this way. Personally i dont expect to see any Vita version, especially not anytime soon. I just wanted to say that a release on another platform at a later time could bring in more than 100k in sales

Actually for a Vita version to be available we shoudl expect crossplay with 3DS version.
That would be best for everyone...well but Nintendo of course.
I wouldn't mind that at all myself.

 

[test_account]

Actually for a Vita version to be available we shoudl expect crossplay with 3DS version.
That would be best for everyone...well but Nintendo of course.
I wouldn't mind that at all myself.

I wonder if such thing is possible due to Vita using PSN and the 3DS doesnt. Maybe if they made some 3rd party login system, kinda like Konami ID that Metal Gear Online used. But eventhough it will most likely never happen, i think it would be a great idea, i agree.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Some of the crazy Nintendo fans (who didn't buy MH3U and are perched in this thread) should hold tight to their wigs, because MH Vita is perfectly possible, and I actually expect it to happen years from now.

 

[Raptomex]

I... don't think so? local multiplayer was one of the biggest reasons it blew up. Changing the emphasis to single player would kill that.

Well there's no reason to take anything away from the multiplayer if they do.

 

[Mael]

I see the pound sign has incurred some sort of anger here, we clearly can't find a middle ground and also because you used the term dollars when describing the price of the 3DS originally

a buck can be a dollar, a pound or a euro.

I have an interest in Monster Hunter, that's why I'm here. As I said also, the tablet market is huge and another potential platform. So Capcoms claims appear hypocritical in my eyes.

A tablet doesn't have the control methods to play MH in a worse way than a DS couldn't play MH.
I didn't hear you claim that MH should jump ship out of the PSP and on the DS in 2009.
Capcom stated why they stayed on PSP and didn't jump on DS, when the next round came and 3DS was to their standard they moved their.
If the next round of tablets sprouts an analog sticks and a bunch of buttons your point will have validity.

I don't wish to discuss this further with you, so I'm just going to leave it there. Clearly we're not going to agree on any topic here and frankly I don't agree with any other points you've made.

You've made no point at all, only spouted nonsense about how MH should go to tablets or vita because reasons.

I am going to remember this conversation though. Something tells me that it'd be worthwhile doing so.

Oh foreshadowing! I guess that'd fill the OP hole left by the lack of Jump for this week!

I wonder if such thing is possible due to Vita using PSN and the 3DS doesnt. Maybe if they made some 3rd party login system, kinda like Konami ID that Metal Gear Online used. But eventhough it will most likely never happen, i think it would be a great idea, i agree.

I didn't mean for online, for adhoc local play.
That could be done after all Square Enix managed to make Wii & DS interact like they're the same and same goes for Capcom on 3DS/WiiU!
So online wouldn't be possible but local could be since that's the most important part for a JPN release after all...

 

[Mileena]

I'll buy the WiiU version once it's out.

mah nigga

Only the cool peeps are waiting for the definitive version :sunglasses:

*Ridley not included

 

[Alrus]

The rules on port begging seem to have relaxed slightly, presumably because otherwise every iOS thread would cull 20% of the boards population. In the context of a sales discussion regarding a game announced long ago, I don't really see the issue. It's not like the 3DS version is going to get cancelled or anything.

As if this kind of thread shitting doesn't happen in every MH thread... It's got to the point nobody can discuss anything about the game besides graphics and what platform it "should" or "shouldn't" be one. Any post about the game itself, the change in gameplay and new monsters gets burried in a sea of bullshit.

 

[SmokyDave]

As if this kind of thread shitting doesn't happen in every MH thread...

I wasn't talking about the other threads though, I was talking about this one.

 

[mclem]

Some of the crazy Nintendo fans (who didn't buy MH3U and are perched in this thread) should hold tight to their wigs, because MH Vita is perfectly possible, and I actually expect it to happen years from now.

There will be a Vita years from now?

I kid. I think it's fair to not regard MH Vita as an *impossibility*, but I certainly don't see anything in the *current* circumstances to make it a viable business proposition. Things absolutely can change, of that there is no doubt (and, arguably, with the PS4 being able to use a Vita as a controller, that might be regarded as sufficient; I'm sure we'll get one of the titles on PS4 sometime)

 

[Alrus]

I wasn't talking about the other threads though, I was talking about this one.

But 75% percent of the posts here don't even bother to try to come up with a decent discussion about the game's potential sales. It's mostly dumb one liners and again, complaints about the platform it's in.

Saying "then it should be multiplat" or stuff like that show people don't even bother to research the series's sales history.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

I don't know if MH4 will break previous records, but I can see it easily selling over 4 million copies in Japan*, by the way MH4G is bound to sell even more later on as 3DS userbase grows in a couple of years.

* including digital sales

 

[Conrad Link]

Sony must know how important it was, how did they let it get away in the first place?

If Nintendo have that sorta pull to secure it away then good on them. They already have Mario, Pokemon and DQ (probably), could have just cruised again with those but instead went for the full killing blow and obliterated the competition in Japan completely.

I would love to know if it was actually Nintendo identifying the one big thing left and just said NOW ITS OURS or if it was Capcom knowing fans would just go wherever it was anyway and wanted dat Nintendo handheld userbase pie. Either way, again I find it hard to believe Sony just sat there and watched it happen, will always wonder what the deal was.

From a personal standpoint, at least with the games so far on Nintendo systems I've gotten to ACTUALLY PLAY THEM (eventually >_>) and that is all I give a shit about. So whatever it was they did I thank them.

 

[Ricky 7]

"Not only do Capcom expect Monster Hunter 4 to be the best selling title of the franchise, but it will also boast the most volume of content we’ve seen from the series that practically created its own genre."

=O Can't wait.

 

[metalslimer]

Some of the crazy Nintendo fans (who didn't buy MH3U and are perched in this thread) should hold tight to their wigs, because MH Vita is perfectly possible, and I actually expect it to happen years from now.

You expect them to come to vita at the end of its lifecycle.....

Sony must know how important it was, how did they let it get away in the first place?

Sony had a massive amount of hubris with vita. They sat there and thought 3rd parties would support them because they are Sony and yoshida was shocked by the bad support. I'm happy they got their asses served to them because it makes sure ps4 wont be in the same position.

 

[test_account]

I didn't mean for online, for adhoc local play.
That could be done after all Square Enix managed to make Wii & DS interact like they're the same and same goes for Capcom on 3DS/WiiU!
So online wouldn't be possible but local could be since that's the most important part for a JPN release after all...

Ah ok. I wonder if that is technically possible unlesss Nintendo and Sony colaberates on it, and that is probably very unlikely to happen.

 

[DaBoss]

=O Can't wait.

Will it actually surpass MH3U and MHFU in terms of content? If so, that would be insane. That would also mean MH4G would be even more insane.

 

[Deadbeat]

Sony must know how important it was, how did they let it get away in the first place?

They decided to let the vita rot away.

 

[Ridley327]

=O Can't wait.

There's been definitely a lot to sing about with how much they're putting in there, and I especially like how a lot of the fourth gen monsters don't really have a previous gen equivalent, which helps them stand out a lot more. I doubt it's going to get anywhere close to where MHF has gotten in sheer quantity, but I can safely say that they're not going to fill this game with lazy reskins of Raths to pad it out.

 

[flyinpiranha]

How well did MH3U on the 3DS do? Would that be an incentive for them to speed up the translation for NA?

 

[DaBoss]

How well did MH3U on the 3DS do? Would that be an incentive for them to speed up the translation for NA?

~150K in the US at retail so far.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Why beg for Pepsi when you already have Coke?

Because Pepsi is better than Coke.

 

[zroid]

Because Pepsi is better than Coke.

this is going to come to fisticuffs

 

[Wynnebeck]

They decided to let the vita rot away.

Or more like Nintendo threw Capcom money first. People act like Capcom jumped on board with Nintendo after the Vita came out but the dead was in place long before.

 

[flyinpiranha]

~150K in the US at retail so far.

That's not too bad I guess. But definitely not much of a motivator. Dang. Looks like I'll be waiting a while.

 

[Mondriaan]

It's a moot point talking about 3DS exclusivity.

I think this franchise is destined for cell phones, given the pace of hardware improvements in smart phones and the pace of development in MH core improvements.

 

[Ridley327]

Because Pepsi is better than Coke.

I don't drink anything with caffeine in it anymore, so I'm not the guy to ask.

 

[DaBoss]

That's not too bad I guess. But definitely not much of a motivator. Dang. Looks like I'll be waiting a while.

I imagine it did somewhat well digitally. And with NOE's push with MH3U, there should be a lot of MH players in Europe.

And the fact Capcom-Unity is still doing Monster Hunter community stuff gives me hope they are somewhat satisfied.

It's a moot point talking about 3DS exclusivity.

I think this franchise is destined for cell phones, given the pace of hardware improvements in smart phones and the pace of development in MH core improvements.

I find that unlikely till phones come with buttons and sticks/slidepads.

 

[Thorakai]

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate was my first foray into the series and I loved it. Monster Hunter 4 looks amazing but I'm hesistant to pick it up (assuming it is ever localized) knowing there will be an innevitable G version with more content and tweaks. I want to show my support for the franchise in the west but it's hard since Capcom has made a habit of releasing improved versions of their base games. I guess the only thing that would make my MH4 purchse a definite is if they announce the G version being in a platform other than the 3DS, I love playing the game on my handheld.

 

[KillerTravis]

Or more like Nintendo threw Capcom money first. People act like Capcom jumped on board with Nintendo after the Vita came out but the dead was in place long before.

Or maybe they wanted to go with a Nintendo handheld all along but the DS didn't have enough power to run Monster Hunter so they went with the PSP instead.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

So this basically confirms a western release right?

 

[Nostremitus]

Isn't that what every developer ever wants their game to do?
(Response to OP)

 

[massoluk]

It's a moot point talking about 3DS exclusivity.

I think this franchise is destined for cell phones, given the pace of hardware improvements in smart phones and the pace of development in MH core improvements.

This thread would have been a graveyard if Dragona is still here.

 

[SJS]

lol Capcom and their sky high expectations for every game they release

"Mega Man won't sell in the west!"