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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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Godzilla's Left Toe
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They refroze Buckey and Cap is hiding out in Wakanda.
Peter is explaining his bruises to Aunt May (Steve from Brooklyn and his friend) and after she leaves he shows off some stark tech.
Well in the comics doesn't he had some abilities or powers? They could somehow incorporate that into it
brandonh83
Banned
My single favorite moment was the Empire Strikes Back reference. That was fucking amazing. I was smiling so hard it's not even funny.
BewareTheBatsie
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Makes perfect sense though. It's the shield of Captain America, an image that the average person in the Marvel universe represents with all the good in the world. Steve sided with Bucky of his personal feelings instead of what would be considered the noble thing to do and is effectively abandoning that image with him becoming a fugitive.
Captain America died this movie, but Steve Rogers lived.
Worst scene for me, felt like fighting storm troopers.That scene with Bucky and Cap in the stairwell merking everyone...
Personally I enjoyed the character interactions and that moment at the end, "you don't deserve that shield, my father made it" I really felt Tony's pain at that point.
Steve from Brooklyn and his really, really big friend.
brandonh83
Banned
Not sure. I'm not familiar with Zemo at all.
That was goddamn SPECTACULAR
Though I'm not entirely sure if it lived up to my hype. The airport fight definitely did but I can't shake the feeling that Winter Soldier is still the superior film. It's mainly the pacing issues that hold the movie back. My gripes at the moment are
- The first half moves way too fast in terms of plot. Big events like the UN bombing aren't given appropriate time to settle and I think it hurts the movie overall. It's hard to imagine how they could fix that though since the movie is pretty much its maximum length already
- Where the hell was Vision during the Airport fight?
- Spider-man indeed was really shoe-horned in. Funny thing is, he didn't have to be if it were just a bit more smartly written. That said, everything else about him was spot on.
- I'm not sure how I feel about Bucky being refrozen
- The music isn't as mediocre as people are saying but it wasn't used as well as it was in Winter Soldier
- What the hell happened with the Crossbones plot, what were they even stealing?
On the flip side, some quick thoughts beyond "omfg that was fucking awesome"
+ Zemo was pretty great. He was in it way more than I expected and Bruhl did an outstanding job. I'm surprised so many reviewers complained about him.
+ I knew Giant Man was coming but it still felt like a legit surprise. Rudd as a whole may have been funnier than he was in the entirety of Ant-Man
+ Speaking of surprises, I didn't think Rhodey would end up paralyzed. That was a shocker. I felt everyone in the theater wince at the thud he made when he hit the ground.
+ Wanda and Vision flirting was crazy cute to see
+ Hawkeye's diatribe in the Raft was unexpected but very welcome, the character has really grown on me
+ That final fight was just brutal all around. Tony is such a broken person, I feel so bad for him but I'm still Team Cap in the end.
+ It really does shake things up for the Avengers and will help give reasons as to why they're MIA for the rest of Phase 3 up to Infinity War
+ Speaking of Infinity War, getting the band back together is going to be a really amazing moment
I really need to see it again to solidify my thoughts on it. When I first saw AoU, I rated it maybe a B- but that eventually turned into a B+ with repeat viewings. AoU benefited greatly from additional viewings because it also suffered from being overstuffed with certain developments feeling rushed at first. Those complaints slowly softened with more viewings though because I knew what to expect and I could keep an eye out for details I had previously missed. I expect something similar here. Conversely, I gave Winter Soldier an A after my first viewing and that rating has stuck with it ever since.
At the moment, I'll give Civil War a really strong B+ but there's a good chance that'll get bumped up to an A-. I think I'll like it even more my second time through but I'm pretty confident Winter Soldier will stay above it. Guess I'll have to see it again a few times to decide for sure!
Though I'm not entirely sure if it lived up to my hype. The airport fight definitely did but I can't shake the feeling that Winter Soldier is still the superior film. It's mainly the pacing issues that hold the movie back. My gripes at the moment are
- The first half moves way too fast in terms of plot. Big events like the UN bombing aren't given appropriate time to settle and I think it hurts the movie overall. It's hard to imagine how they could fix that though since the movie is pretty much its maximum length already
- Where the hell was Vision during the Airport fight?
- Spider-man indeed was really shoe-horned in. Funny thing is, he didn't have to be if it were just a bit more smartly written. That said, everything else about him was spot on.
- I'm not sure how I feel about Bucky being refrozen
- The music isn't as mediocre as people are saying but it wasn't used as well as it was in Winter Soldier
- What the hell happened with the Crossbones plot, what were they even stealing?
On the flip side, some quick thoughts beyond "omfg that was fucking awesome"
+ Zemo was pretty great. He was in it way more than I expected and Bruhl did an outstanding job. I'm surprised so many reviewers complained about him.
+ I knew Giant Man was coming but it still felt like a legit surprise. Rudd as a whole may have been funnier than he was in the entirety of Ant-Man
+ Speaking of surprises, I didn't think Rhodey would end up paralyzed. That was a shocker. I felt everyone in the theater wince at the thud he made when he hit the ground.
+ Wanda and Vision flirting was crazy cute to see
+ Hawkeye's diatribe in the Raft was unexpected but very welcome, the character has really grown on me
+ That final fight was just brutal all around. Tony is such a broken person, I feel so bad for him but I'm still Team Cap in the end.
+ It really does shake things up for the Avengers and will help give reasons as to why they're MIA for the rest of Phase 3 up to Infinity War
+ Speaking of Infinity War, getting the band back together is going to be a really amazing moment
I really need to see it again to solidify my thoughts on it. When I first saw AoU, I rated it maybe a B- but that eventually turned into a B+ with repeat viewings. AoU benefited greatly from additional viewings because it also suffered from being overstuffed with certain developments feeling rushed at first. Those complaints slowly softened with more viewings though because I knew what to expect and I could keep an eye out for details I had previously missed. I expect something similar here. Conversely, I gave Winter Soldier an A after my first viewing and that rating has stuck with it ever since.
At the moment, I'll give Civil War a really strong B+ but there's a good chance that'll get bumped up to an A-. I think I'll like it even more my second time through but I'm pretty confident Winter Soldier will stay above it. Guess I'll have to see it again a few times to decide for sure!
Yeah, you could see how he felt about the shield his father made be used to defend the person who killed him and Tony's mom.
Baron Zemo has a gifted intellect, with certain scientific expertise, excellent marksmanship, and extensive training in hand-to-hand combat. He is also a highly accomplished strategist and leader. Helmut has circuitry in his headband designed to disrupt psionic manipulation. He carried various rifles, and sometimes carries a hand-held spray-gun for Adhesive X, the most powerful bonding agent ever invented.
The Moonstones grant Helmut Zemo a massive array of superhuman powers such as energy/gravity/light manipulation, molecular phasing, strength/durability augmentation, the ability to create spatial warps, flight and more.
This is just from the wikipedia i found.
The Artisan
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What?
Dunedain_Ranger
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So in the last 15 years stark never investigated the death of his parents ?
Yeah, but for me, it doesn't change the idea that Iron Man brought a super powered child with no training into a war against assassins and highly trained special forces killers.
It was labeled as an auto accident. Hydra was never a thing publicly until Winter Soldier and Steve buried the information on his parents.
RatskyWatsky
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I liked it, but it felt more like an Avengers movie than it did a Captain America movie. Black Panther was cool and so was Spider Man (best screen version of the character, imo). Ant Man was the MVP, however.
I was wondering about that too.
I was wondering about that too.
Well Hydra probably covered it up.
That's not what I meant concerning Spider-man. Tony didn't even explain how he figured out Peter was Spider-Man. It really just kinda came out of nowhere.
I don't know if Crossbones was really just about revenge. The movie didn't make it too clear Tbh. And I'm still not sure what he was stealing.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Nah man, you need Hulk and Thor for it to be an Avengers film.
reading the wikipedia writeup... I guess I did mistake it. So the wakanda connection was there were humanitarian workers from there in that building that blew up.
Was the high techness of that country mentioned anywhere in the movie though outside of the mid credit scene?
Something else that bothered me. i'm pretty sure at the beginning the hit on stark's parents was on a long foresty street, but the security cam footage at the end made it seem like they crashed near a building of sort? I could be misremembering something though.
Boogalogist
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I liked Falcon a lot in this. I thought he'd be a pushover in fights, but he can actually hold his own. But his best parts are the comedic one...
"You like cats?"
"I hate you."
and of course this
"You like cats?"
"I hate you."
and of course this
The Cretan
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My favorite line was Spider-Man's "Holy shit". Tom Holland nailed that line.
Yeah, it's pretty wildly irresponsible lol, but I guess he was desperate
Remember that Tony also lives in New York, so he probably was keeping tabs on him maybe?
They were stealing some biological agent or something
Tony says when the video first starts playing that he instantly recognizes that road, so I assume it took place on the Stark Estate or something.
To be fair he nailed most of his lines.
Just watched it. Almost broke down during spidey scenes.
Now that was a damn versus movie.
That was me with Black Panther and the scene with his bodyguard
Loved the movie.
LOVED how everyone was awesome. When the Giant Man scene happened though... Man I can't wait till The Thanos Pain. Hawkeye's level 3 is right there to becoming a reality.
"Hey kid, where you from?"
"Queens."
"Brooklyn."
Easily my favorite scene. Dat Brooklyn love.
LOVED how everyone was awesome. When the Giant Man scene happened though... Man I can't wait till The Thanos Pain. Hawkeye's level 3 is right there to becoming a reality.
"Hey kid, where you from?"
"Queens."
"Brooklyn."
Easily my favorite scene. Dat Brooklyn love.
The Cretan
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He nailed everything, but this line really stuck in my mind.
RellyRell28
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Damn that movie was beyond dope as fuck. Just so much shit that was awesome about it.
-Black Panther was just amazing. I personally loved how in the final act you thought he was gonna fuck shit up and go after Bucky but he seemed to eavesdrop at the right times see what was really going on in the end did the right thing and even stopping Zemo from killing himself.
-Spiderman was amazing as well in that airport fight scene but you can tell he was just thrown in cause they Marvel got joint rights to use him. However he was still great in those shoehorned scenes.
-Ant man going Giant was expected but really well done but got damn that hurt me when Stark said "Who is he" to him. Dat burn tho.
-This Aunt May was the best Aunt May ever. However in Rami's Spider man to now May did appear to look younger. The actor did look familiar so I just wiki's it and realized she was Mimi from the current season of Empire.
-The action scene were top notch again. Good lawd
-Black Panther was just amazing. I personally loved how in the final act you thought he was gonna fuck shit up and go after Bucky but he seemed to eavesdrop at the right times see what was really going on in the end did the right thing and even stopping Zemo from killing himself.
-Spiderman was amazing as well in that airport fight scene but you can tell he was just thrown in cause they Marvel got joint rights to use him. However he was still great in those shoehorned scenes.
-Ant man going Giant was expected but really well done but got damn that hurt me when Stark said "Who is he" to him. Dat burn tho.
-This Aunt May was the best Aunt May ever. However in Rami's Spider man to now May did appear to look younger. The actor did look familiar so I just wiki's it and realized she was Mimi from the current season of Empire.
-The action scene were top notch again. Good lawd
Saw this in NYC tonight and the theater went crazy with that line. Loved it.
I didn't think I would love T'Challa so much.
Glass Rebel
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Black Panther had hands down my favourite lines + delivery.
"I am not my father."
"Don't bother, Ms. Romanoff, I will kill him myself."
"So I ask you as a warrior and a king: How long do you think you can keep your friend away from me."
"I don't care."
"The living are not done with you yet."
"I am not my father."
"Don't bother, Ms. Romanoff, I will kill him myself."
"So I ask you as a warrior and a king: How long do you think you can keep your friend away from me."
"I don't care."
"The living are not done with you yet."
The Outsider
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Black Panther had hands down my favourite lines + delivery.
"I am not my father."
"Don't bother, Ms. Romanoff, I will kill him myself."
"So I ask you as a warrior and a king: How long do you think you can keep your friend away from me."
"I don't care."
"The living are not done with you yet."
"Let them try."
THIS MOVIE SUCKED away any thoughts I had about it being bad when Black Widow was owning in the beginning. Fight scenes are still top notch and the hero battle is the highlight.
Yeah, I really, really, like this Spider-Man so far. I just hope they can deliver a great story in his solo film.
BUT I really want Black Panther's film before, even if we're not getting it first. Dude was moping the floor with everyone.
And I'd kill to see a buddy-cop movie with Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Car scene killed it in the theater.
In fact, I don't think I've had this much fun with an active audience since the first Avengers movie in '12. Movie didn't start on time, 20 minutes later, (so instead of 7:30 it started at 50) then everyone was chanting "RE-FUND", and throughout the movie people were really getting into it. Like damn, it was a lot of fun.
I also really appreciated that the major players got clear motivation for their actions. We even got development for Vision and his thing for Scarlet Witch.
This fucking movie man. Can't wait to own it on Blu-Ray.
Yeah, I really, really, like this Spider-Man so far. I just hope they can deliver a great story in his solo film.
BUT I really want Black Panther's film before, even if we're not getting it first. Dude was moping the floor with everyone.
And I'd kill to see a buddy-cop movie with Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Car scene killed it in the theater.
In fact, I don't think I've had this much fun with an active audience since the first Avengers movie in '12. Movie didn't start on time, 20 minutes later, (so instead of 7:30 it started at 50) then everyone was chanting "RE-FUND", and throughout the movie people were really getting into it. Like damn, it was a lot of fun.
I also really appreciated that the major players got clear motivation for their actions. We even got development for Vision and his thing for Scarlet Witch.
This fucking movie man. Can't wait to own it on Blu-Ray.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I didn't miss either of them tbh.
Shmeagatory94
Member
Loved every second of the movie.
So in the after-credit scene when Peter is toying with the tech and the spiderman symbol appears on the ceiling, is that suppose to represent something or be an actual device or gadget? Or is it just to get us hyped for Homecoming?
So in the after-credit scene when Peter is toying with the tech and the spiderman symbol appears on the ceiling, is that suppose to represent something or be an actual device or gadget? Or is it just to get us hyped for Homecoming?
peanutbutterlatte
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So glad USGAF finally get to see this!
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