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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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BronsonLee
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A bum that can run fast af
Watched it last night. Absolutely loved it.
But I gotta say, that first action scene was rough, especially the parts with black widow. Consistently cranked framerate + 3D = a big no no. Afterimages/trails, judder. So annoying. I was so disappointed in what they had done to that scene I got legitimately worried that I'd be annoyed with all the action scenes in the movie if they keep it like this style, and it being an action heavy movie, man would that have been an unpleasant experience. Thankfully whatever the fuck the factors were that made the first action sequence that way were not happening in the later ones.
I wonder if it was or wasn't as noticeable in the 2d viewings (as 3d can create some some judder even in movies that don't have their framerate manipulated)
But I gotta say, that first action scene was rough, especially the parts with black widow. Consistently cranked framerate + 3D = a big no no. Afterimages/trails, judder. So annoying. I was so disappointed in what they had done to that scene I got legitimately worried that I'd be annoyed with all the action scenes in the movie if they keep it like this style, and it being an action heavy movie, man would that have been an unpleasant experience. Thankfully whatever the fuck the factors were that made the first action sequence that way were not happening in the later ones.
I wonder if it was or wasn't as noticeable in the 2d viewings (as 3d can create some some judder even in movies that don't have their framerate manipulated)
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
Scarlet Witch should be in A-tier by now, she easily overpowered Vision.
Bucky is not in Black Widow or Hawkeye's tier lmao, he casually disposed of Widow while fighting two other people. He belongs right next to Cap, with Spider-Man at the top of C-tier.
Giant-Man should be in Iron Man and War Machine's tier.
Ragnorok64
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That one legitimately was an auto correct flub, but I might as well leave it because it's hilarious.
Bucket is so hilarious I'mma call him that from now on.
I mean, I don't know where to put Iron Man and War Machine. It feels like they should b stronger, but love beating the shit out of them anyway.
At least I'm happy the: "Analyze his fight pattern" "Counter ready" "OK, let's kick his ass" scene happened. That shit should've happened way sooner.
I mean, I don't know where to put Iron Man and War Machine. It feels like they should b stronger, but love beating the shit out of them anyway.
At least I'm happy the: "Analyze his fight pattern" "Counter ready" "OK, let's kick his ass" scene happened. That shit should've happened way sooner.
DrForester
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Is War Machine really that powerful given that he's just using the second prototype suit?
BronsonLee
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Not ast enough to outrun:
The cops
Cap
BP
Yer da
Holy shit I love it
call_kotaku
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Just based on their encounters in the movies it would already be
Hulk > Thor
Hulk > Iron Man
Wanda > Vision
Iron Man > Cap
Cap > Bucky
Bucky > Falcon
Bucky > Widow
Ant-Man > Falcon
Widow > Hawkeye
Feels like it would be easy to have some sort of tier list, and I'm guessing Hulk would absolutely be the top and Hawkeye would be the bottom, but some spots in mid-high tier can be debated.
Hulk > Thor
Hulk > Iron Man
Wanda > Vision
Iron Man > Cap
Cap > Bucky
Bucky > Falcon
Bucky > Widow
Ant-Man > Falcon
Widow > Hawkeye
Feels like it would be easy to have some sort of tier list, and I'm guessing Hulk would absolutely be the top and Hawkeye would be the bottom, but some spots in mid-high tier can be debated.
Don't forget Tony Stank
Spidey disposed of Bucky and Falcon on his own. Straight up stopped Bucky's punch like it was nothing (his arm has been able to crush Tony's armor) and showed greater strength than Cap.
Scarlet Witch should be bumped up to A and Bucky to C. Spidey is borderline B or very high C.
PadWarrior
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Lol
Zemo should be s tier since he broke the avengers
Yes yes yes
Ragnorok64
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One on one Scarlet Witch can overpower Vision yes, but as an overall combatant she's got vulnerabilities. Vison has robot body invulnerability on top of his flight, strength, and phasing powers.
Ant-man has a versatile powerset, but doesn't have the training of the othes. Also getting giant against opponents using lethal rounds just makes him a target.
I can see the argument for Bucket but he doesn't seem to punch above his weight class as much as Cap does.
You guys are crazy with your rankings.
It should be like this:
1. Hulk
2a. Thor
2b. Scarlet Witch
2c. Vision
3. Ant-Man
4a. Iron Man
4b. Cap
4c. War Machine
5. Bucket
6. Falcon
7. Widow
8. Hawkeye
Spiderman isn't there because I want to see more of him in the MCU to gauge where he should be. If I had to, I'd slot him after Cap and ahead of War Machine.
It should be like this:
1. Hulk
2a. Thor
2b. Scarlet Witch
2c. Vision
3. Ant-Man
4a. Iron Man
4b. Cap
4c. War Machine
5. Bucket
6. Falcon
7. Widow
8. Hawkeye
Spiderman isn't there because I want to see more of him in the MCU to gauge where he should be. If I had to, I'd slot him after Cap and ahead of War Machine.
I want this movie because I want Janet as the wasp. #HopeWho? #NotMyWasp
Hot Coldman
Banned
She's been stuck in the quantum realm, where time doesn't move properly and shit. She'll probably escape it in the Ant-Man sequel, looking just as young as she did when she entered.
It's called "Ant-Man And The Wasp" for a reason!
Reizo Ryuu
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Lol parker is not a mutant, he doesn't have an x-gene.
She'll be theShe's been stuck in the quantum realm, where time doesn't move properly and shit. She'll probably escape it in the Ant-Man sequel, looking just as young as she did when she entered.
It's called "Ant-Man And The Wasp" for a reason!
villain
slap old man Hank around
Search in your heart, you know this to be true.
Cap brought up that very argument when he said something to the effect that the people on the panel could still be people with specific agendas or something like that.
EDIT: Got out of the movie about 45 minutes. Freaking excellent! Shame on DC man. Just shame on them.
BronsonLee
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Eagerly anticipating Catherine Zeta-Jones taking years of rage out on Michael Douglas publicly
She's been stuck in the quantum realm, where time doesn't move properly and shit. She'll probably escape it in the Ant-Man sequel, looking just as young as she did when she entered.
It's called "Ant-Man And The Wasp" for a reason!
And the first thing she will do is design a new uniform for everyone. Big dress for Scarlet Witch, too.
Linkstrikesback
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Part of the movie, to me, felt like it was trying to prove even Cap has vested interests and absolutely is not above working towards his own goals at the expense of others. I assumed cap agreed in the end, which is why, after the fight with Tony, he left the shield behind.
Nah, I think they're just assuming everyone already knows Petes origin at this point, and if not, they've already got two modern movies to chose from to see it, the logic seems to be that a third would have wasted peoples time.
Shadow Moses
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It's a de-aging technique that's extremely expensive to make atm. And according to Lola VFX the technology has been round since x-men last stand only difference is the artist are getting better.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Scarlett Witch seems weak because she is still learning her powers, she is easily A tier up there with Hulk and Thor.
A Tier:
Hulk, Thor, Scarlett Witch, Vision
B Tier:
AntMan/Giant Man, Spider Man, Iron Man, War Machine, Cap, Black Panther
C Tier:
Bucket, Falcon, Daredevil, Punisher, JJ, Luke Cage
D Tier:
Agent 13, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nick Fury
E Tier:
Stan Lee
Not sure where the other characters (Iron Fist, Cloak/Dagger, Dr. Strange, etc.) will fit.
I would say Iron man = Cap. Cap could have easily, easily killed Tony once he went berserk on him and broke the arc reactor.
metalslimer
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Man, I'm just so happy at how great Spidey and BP turned out. And Rudd as Ant Man has been fantastic so far. His miniature scenes were awesome.
Also, Cap is definitely B tier now. His strength has gotten kind of crazy now.
Also, Cap is definitely B tier now. His strength has gotten kind of crazy now.
I put Wanda up top, because she can to some degree control all of the other top tier OP heroes.
Scarlet Witch is legit broken.
Here's the problem with Catherine Zeta Jones as Janet Van Dyne:.
If Janet happens to have aged during her time in the micro-verse, wouldn't the character be the same age as Michael Douglas? Thus, Catherine Zeta Jones would be too young.
If the character hasn't aged, wouldn't the actress need to be younger than Catherine Zeta Jones? Thus, wouldn't Catherine Zeta Jones be too old?
If Janet happens to have aged during her time in the micro-verse, wouldn't the character be the same age as Michael Douglas? Thus, Catherine Zeta Jones would be too young.
If the character hasn't aged, wouldn't the actress need to be younger than Catherine Zeta Jones? Thus, wouldn't Catherine Zeta Jones be too old?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
If they go with Zeta-Jones they can find some way to hand-wave it. Just say she aged slower or something.
De-Ageing technology yadda yadda
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Cap and Bucky double teaming Iron Man was the coolest choreographing I've seen in a long time. Bucky is my fav MCU character so I was sad to see him freeze himself again at the end. Will he be back? :/
Crossbones got fucked, he was such a cool villain too
Crossbones got fucked, he was such a cool villain too
Escape Goat
Member
He will after Thanos rips Steve in half.
Linkstrikesback
Member
As they put it, time stops making sense in the quantum realm (this is sorta true on those scales). They can basically make her whatever age they want and handwave it.
BronsonLee
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He was with Cap, he wasn't with Bucket
I'd have no issues putting her above Thor, bit I don't think she's above hulk yet. She had issues containing Crossbones' bomb safely. Once she learns her powers better I might agree with you. AntMan is broken too.
Forgot about Panther. I'd put him just behind AntMan and above Cap.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
He absolutely could have killed both of them easily if he wanted to. The shot that took Bucky's arm was purely out of self defense, Bucky was just about to rip his power source out.
It wasn't meant to be a fight to the death but it sure felt like it because it was the complete and utter destruction of a friendship.
I don't think he was going for the kill, but he was definetly past "set repulsor blasts to stun".
bananafactory
Banned
I believe Hank said all rules of time and physics go out the window in the quantum realm so she could really be whatever age they want. Very convenient
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
Tony wasn't actively trying to kill Cap. He could have imploded his chest with the unibeam when Cap was on top of him. While he wanted to kill Bucky, it definitely wasn't with the approach of doing it as fast as possible - i.e., with missiles, lasers, etc. He probably wanted to beat Bucky to death with his fists.
Even at that point he didn't seem too keen on hurting Cap, just getting him out of the way, but I don't think he was pulling his punches with Bucket at all. One of his very first punches would've smashed his face right into the floor had Cap not intervened and there were other similar scenes I thought. I'm watching it again tomorrow so I'll pay more attention to it.
Black Panther going to fix him in his movie. Isn't it right in the middle of part 3 and 4?
I see this as an almost certainty. Arm remade with vibranium and the works.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Iron fist is easily at the top of B tier if not in A tier, strange is easily at the top of A.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
I'm pretty impressed Bucky and Cap could take full-force punches from Iron Man repeatedly and continue fighting. In Iron Man's first fight scene he was launching terrorists like twenty feet with physical blows.
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