Finaika
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Carrie Fisher strikes back at critic who told her to quit or be judged on her looks
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Daisy Ridley is model looking?
Probably a disgusting amount.
Probably got him on contract for the trilogy so he's going to earn his money in 8.
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Bobby Roberts
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The Slave Leia thing was started by a parent who saw a Slave Leia toy and freaked out about it. He got made fun of for a week or so, and that was about it, until Amy Schumer posed for GQ in the metal bikini, and then shortly afterwards a comics artist said there was basically a soft ban in effect at Lucasfilm from promoting/using Slave Leia imagery as the main form of merchandising/tie-in imagery for the character. Combined with quotes from her to Daisy Ridley where she advised Ridley to fight for her look/image and "don't let them put you in that slave costume," fair amount of the older, male end of the fanbase took offense at the idea they couldn't continue to fetishize Leia out-of-context, and worried that Lucasfilm were going to do something like go back into the films and CGI more clothes onto her in a future blu-ray release.
Fisher's also said at some point, in response to the father who complained, said something along the lines of "if you want to know how to explain to your child why I'm wearing that, tell them I was chained to a disgusting testicle and I used that chain to kill him and free myself, and then I changed clothes backstage."
She doesn't really give a shit about the toys (any toys) because she long ago resigned herself to the fact she's going to die as "Princess Leia" and that her image is not hers anymore, and never will be. So whether Slave Leia toys are sold or not, she doesn't care (although it'd be all sorts of awesome if the main imagery used to advertise/merchandise the character wasn't the 10 minutes she spent as a gangster's eye-candy, like it has been for the last 20+ years).
While the article is not wrong in saying that her looks had a lot to do with her getting the job or that the success of Star Wars greatly helped her 2nd career (he doesn't actually slam her as a writer) and it's certainly right that looks play a huge role in Hollywood success, especially for women, it's written in a really douchey way (especially the title).
Also, just because this is the way things are right now it doesn't makes it right.
There's a bigger discussion to be had about lookism in film, which I think is somewhat defensible (at least to a certain degree), but at the same time we must recognize that it often function, especially in broader society, as a way to hold women back.
But honestly, I don't this article is a worthy starting point for such important discussion.
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FWIW, I think she was quite bad in the OT, but Lucas was able to get terrible performances from really great actors so I don't really hold it against her that much.
Also, just because this is the way things are right now it doesn't makes it right.
There's a bigger discussion to be had about lookism in film, which I think is somewhat defensible (at least to a certain degree), but at the same time we must recognize that it often function, especially in broader society, as a way to hold women back.
But honestly, I don't this article is a worthy starting point for such important discussion.
p.s.
FWIW, I think she was quite bad in the OT, but Lucas was able to get terrible performances from really great actors so I don't really hold it against her that much.
zero shift
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I really don't understand the looks argument. She wasn't even that pretty at all during the 1970s.
Yes.
Yes.
Dice//
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I don't want to... (but something tells me it might be more than I've made in all my years working)
I apologize for the spell check error on my phone professor
I will say this although you are generally correct, people including me dogged the fuck out of Hamill when the new trilogy was announced as he looked out of shape and old.
Carrie is on record saying that the metal bikini was a mistake and she regrets that she didn't fight harder against wearing it. And that experience lead to her telling Daisy to protect Rey's dignify as a character and to fight anything that feels sleazy and exploitive.
About the toys, she was asked how a parent should explain that outfit when its the only one that is on the toys. She replied that they should say that a bad space slug forced her to wear it, and that she hated it so much she killed him.
I would end her wait for a family.
Dice//
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For all intensive purposes, I think you're right
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yes, which is why I said 60 and not 60s?
He got second billing!
Ew.
Gotdatmoney
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I wasn't dismissing what she was saying. I asked what the original controvery was so I could get a better context on why she said what she said. Were people criticizing her looks im the film? Cause I thought she looked fine.
I don't think she should have to keep quiet about disliking the extreme pressure to be "pretty" all the time. I dont think it is fair. I am just saying that a reality of acting is surface level shallow. They cast pretty people for big roles.
Crazy women beauty standards are a whole other topic.
Good Job Bob
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the main imagery for Leia has always been cinnamon bun hair, innocent looking smooth forehead space girl in a futuristic tunic. Slave Leia doesn't approach that, even though it is a popular look, the metal bikini. And you can never stop anyone from fetishizing anything out of context, because that's the nature of the beast.(mrrhhhrrr...cinnamon buns....)
Bobby Roberts
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I think that's arguable. Maybe before the mid-'90s I'd be inclined to agree with you a lot more easily.
In Star Wars merchandise, the metal bikini is probably more widespread.
Sometimes she looks stunning, sometimes she looks more average.
I like that they went with her and not some CW boring model looking girl.
Beer Monkey
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I'm just tired of people saying that Carrie's looks are from age. Ignoring booze and drugs and food addictions.
well if you want to blame the internet, I'll stand with you then, otherwise, we fight.
you can't blame temporal George Lucas for what 30 years of sex-capitalism hath wrought. He just wanted a slave girl for his space slug talking ball-sack alien.
Finaika
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Dude...
Bobby Roberts
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Jesus Christ, Speevy.
That's not the problem with your comment....
I need to start investing in how many times this is said per day.
Then you lost me.
George Oscar Bluth II
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...Huh.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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So now the latter two are too hot to be good characters or something?
bonesmccoy
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Lmao, this is *exactly* what Kyle Smith does. All the time. Every time. He is a scientist at this type of troling. Might have been what he studied at Yale.
Wow.
Anyway I think ultimately it boils down to the role. People would howl to high heaven if they had someone obese or really old (unless it was a Beyond film) being Batman for example. Fisher's role in VII was not contingent on her looks but rather her acting, which I feel she did a bad job compared to Ford who is even older.
Anyway I think ultimately it boils down to the role. People would howl to high heaven if they had someone obese or really old (unless it was a Beyond film) being Batman for example. Fisher's role in VII was not contingent on her looks but rather her acting, which I feel she did a bad job compared to Ford who is even older.
being a tabloid, so honestly, it's not surprising, but rather the exact thing I'd expect to come out of NYPost
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The literature statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given all of Fisher's is at least semi-biographical. Had she not starred in Star Wars and the resulting fame, she would not have lived the same life, and thus not written with the same content.
It's like saying "nobody would read your biography if you didn't live that life". Well...duh.
It's like saying "nobody would read your biography if you didn't live that life". Well...duh.
Bahahahahaha
Is it weird that we had a pretty big conversation after TFA and pretty much everyone agreed that Carrie Fisher could still get it at this age? I don't see what's the fiasco. She's not in her 20's and didn't age horribly.
Why is this guy acting line Fisher did something to him? Get a life you fucking crybaby, all this story is doing his getting him a attention.
Daisy is pretty attractive, but it's like a normal person attractive, and not Hollywood over obsessing about our looks attractive.
This is really cliche, but girl next door. Seems like a charming young lady with a great smile.
Daisy is pretty attractive, but it's like a normal person attractive, and not Hollywood over obsessing about our looks attractive.
This is really cliche, but girl next door. Seems like a charming young lady with a great smile.
I should really make it my mission to get a Mark Hamill autograph.
Super Wario
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Douche.
No shit. Fisher's performance in the Star Wars Holiday Special was amazing.
All jokes aside, I recently watched her standup on HBO GO and she is a hilarious person, not to mention she was (and presumably still is, haven't seen the new Star Wars movie yet) a phenomenal actress. Guy seems like a cunt.
EDIT: for some reason, he reminds me of the QVC parody sketch from Tim and Eric.
no one would be paying that movie critic any mind if he hadn't made such a stink and placed himself in the thick of it. He's a media critic for a tabloid newspaper, and she's freakin Princess Leia. in a perfect world, no one would have ever heard him make a peep.
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